Comments on: Will OiNK’s Shutdown Cause People To Rush The Shops? (Probably Not.) http://idolator.com/314551/will-oinks-shutdown-cause-people-to-rush-the-shops-probably-not Music News, Reviews, and Gossip on Idolator.com Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:30:15 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/314551/will-oinks-shutdown-cause-people-to-rush-the-shops-probably-not/comment-page-1#comment-325072 Anonymous Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:11:24 +0000 f41249df3ea3398420a7bbcb973f7643#comment-325072 <p>@<a href="#c2769486">Black_Umbrella</a>:</p> <p>totally agree. ive gone to about 50 shows this year of artists i either recently discovered thru oinks (battles, the national) or artists i've grown to love more because of the availabitly of back catalogue (animal collective, dinosaur jr, yo la tengo).</p> <p>at an average of 20 dollars a show, thats 1000 dollars on tickets alone. i probably bought merchandise at half the shows also whether a shirt or vinyl. thats another... 500 maybe.</p> <p>i would not have paid 50 dollars for wilco if i hadnt downloaded all their albums! i would not have gone to 2 shows of beirut if i hadnt known how awesome the flying club cup is.</p> <p>oinks helped me support the music industry. to all those bands i would probably like but i've not heard yet. im sorry but ... you'll have to wait for my money.</p> @Black_Umbrella:

totally agree. ive gone to about 50 shows this year of artists i either recently discovered thru oinks (battles, the national) or artists i’ve grown to love more because of the availabitly of back catalogue (animal collective, dinosaur jr, yo la tengo).

at an average of 20 dollars a show, thats 1000 dollars on tickets alone. i probably bought merchandise at half the shows also whether a shirt or vinyl. thats another… 500 maybe.

i would not have paid 50 dollars for wilco if i hadnt downloaded all their albums! i would not have gone to 2 shows of beirut if i hadnt known how awesome the flying club cup is.

oinks helped me support the music industry. to all those bands i would probably like but i’ve not heard yet. im sorry but … you’ll have to wait for my money.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/314551/will-oinks-shutdown-cause-people-to-rush-the-shops-probably-not/comment-page-1#comment-325082 Anonymous Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:08:45 +0000 f41249df3ea3398420a7bbcb973f7643#comment-325082 <p>"Uh...wtf? Is it even worth explaining why that makes no sense?"</p> <p>every bit of music i bought last year was something i had got from oink as a taster, i often downloaded an album in flac and paid for the mp3 version without even downloading it.</p> “Uh…wtf? Is it even worth explaining why that makes no sense?”

every bit of music i bought last year was something i had got from oink as a taster, i often downloaded an album in flac and paid for the mp3 version without even downloading it.

]]> By: elvissinatra http://idolator.com/314551/will-oinks-shutdown-cause-people-to-rush-the-shops-probably-not/comment-page-1#comment-325092 elvissinatra Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:33:26 +0000 f41249df3ea3398420a7bbcb973f7643#comment-325092 <P>This sounds familiar</A>...</P> <P><A href="http://elbo.ws/vanilla/comments.php?DiscussionID=1980&page=2#Item_35">[elbo.ws]</A></P> This sounds familiar…

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]]> By: dlab http://idolator.com/314551/will-oinks-shutdown-cause-people-to-rush-the-shops-probably-not/comment-page-1#comment-325102 dlab Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:16:53 +0000 f41249df3ea3398420a7bbcb973f7643#comment-325102 <p>Major-label music has been sucking for a while now. If it weren't for the original Napster, I would still be listening to whatever the big labels told me I should listen to.</p> <p>The music industry's woes are not caused by file sharing. They are caused by the crap that passes for music lately. They are caused by the way that the music industry has historically treated musicians, giving them only a few cents from each record sold. And finally, it is caused by apathetic listeners.</p> <p>If anybody here is really worried about the "industry's woes", go out and pay for some concert tickets. Buy some t-shirts and stickers from your favorite band. Go to shows. Buy t-shirts. Take you friends to the shows too. Buy t-shirts. Go to shows.</p> <p>That's how 99.9% of musicians make their money. "The industry" wants you to buy the records. I WANT YOU TO COME SEE MY SHOWS.</p> Major-label music has been sucking for a while now. If it weren’t for the original Napster, I would still be listening to whatever the big labels told me I should listen to.

The music industry’s woes are not caused by file sharing. They are caused by the crap that passes for music lately. They are caused by the way that the music industry has historically treated musicians, giving them only a few cents from each record sold. And finally, it is caused by apathetic listeners.

If anybody here is really worried about the “industry’s woes”, go out and pay for some concert tickets. Buy some t-shirts and stickers from your favorite band. Go to shows. Buy t-shirts. Take you friends to the shows too. Buy t-shirts. Go to shows.

That’s how 99.9% of musicians make their money. “The industry” wants you to buy the records. I WANT YOU TO COME SEE MY SHOWS.

]]> By: Lucas Jensen http://idolator.com/314551/will-oinks-shutdown-cause-people-to-rush-the-shops-probably-not/comment-page-1#comment-325112 Lucas Jensen Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:12:08 +0000 f41249df3ea3398420a7bbcb973f7643#comment-325112 <p>@<a href="#c2769486">Black_Umbrella</a>: Try reading?</p> @Black_Umbrella: Try reading?

]]> By: gregcoff http://idolator.com/314551/will-oinks-shutdown-cause-people-to-rush-the-shops-probably-not/comment-page-1#comment-325132 gregcoff Thu, 25 Oct 2007 03:21:44 +0000 f41249df3ea3398420a7bbcb973f7643#comment-325132 <p>@<a href="#c2766333">fortycoats</a>: "the majority of oink users were people who were strongly opposed to the idea of not paying for music."</p> <p>Uh...wtf? Is it even worth explaining why that makes no sense? And you generally can't buy music from artists themselves, because of distribution contracts.</p> @fortycoats: “the majority of oink users were people who were strongly opposed to the idea of not paying for music.”

Uh…wtf? Is it even worth explaining why that makes no sense? And you generally can’t buy music from artists themselves, because of distribution contracts.

]]> By: Black_Umbrella http://idolator.com/314551/will-oinks-shutdown-cause-people-to-rush-the-shops-probably-not/comment-page-1#comment-325122 Black_Umbrella Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:25:47 +0000 f41249df3ea3398420a7bbcb973f7643#comment-325122 <p>As well stated by, <a href="#c2760810">janine</a>, the reason OiNK did so well is because the community were true believers in the creativity and artistic qualities developed through a music medium. OiNK quickly entrenched me in the music scene for the second time in my life. What OiNK brought to its users is almost hard to explain, however, I can tell you that it HELPED the artists in many ways. Its true i did not go and buy many of the albums that i downloaded, yet i DID buy some of them. The ones that i bought were from obscure artists that i know will never appear in stores especially places like a Virgin Megastore.</p> <p>Besides the CD's that i bought i started to go to tons of shows. Nearly ever other week i went to go see a band that i discovered a la OiNK.</p> <p>OiNK was a breeding ground for music aficionado's and thats a good thing! Not only did i spend money on bands that deserve it but i was able to share with others, unknown & local bands that are totally unique. The artists are benefiting from sites like OiNK, the only one being hurt is the RIAA and MPAA which just want to expand their coffers.</p> <p>How will i know what artists i should spend my money on now?</p> As well stated by, janine, the reason OiNK did so well is because the community were true believers in the creativity and artistic qualities developed through a music medium. OiNK quickly entrenched me in the music scene for the second time in my life. What OiNK brought to its users is almost hard to explain, however, I can tell you that it HELPED the artists in many ways. Its true i did not go and buy many of the albums that i downloaded, yet i DID buy some of them. The ones that i bought were from obscure artists that i know will never appear in stores especially places like a Virgin Megastore.

Besides the CD’s that i bought i started to go to tons of shows. Nearly ever other week i went to go see a band that i discovered a la OiNK.

OiNK was a breeding ground for music aficionado’s and thats a good thing! Not only did i spend money on bands that deserve it but i was able to share with others, unknown & local bands that are totally unique. The artists are benefiting from sites like OiNK, the only one being hurt is the RIAA and MPAA which just want to expand their coffers.

How will i know what artists i should spend my money on now?

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/314551/will-oinks-shutdown-cause-people-to-rush-the-shops-probably-not/comment-page-1#comment-325142 Anonymous Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:16:01 +0000 f41249df3ea3398420a7bbcb973f7643#comment-325142 <p>the majority of oink users were people who were strongly opposed to the idea of not paying for music. is it a good idea to brand your best customers as criminals? i will try to buy music directly from the artist if possible from now on. oink r.i.p.</p> the majority of oink users were people who were strongly opposed to the idea of not paying for music. is it a good idea to brand your best customers as criminals? i will try to buy music directly from the artist if possible from now on. oink r.i.p.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/314551/will-oinks-shutdown-cause-people-to-rush-the-shops-probably-not/comment-page-1#comment-325152 Anonymous Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:41:26 +0000 f41249df3ea3398420a7bbcb973f7643#comment-325152 <p>I think that the outrage of the record industry is directed mainly toward the leaking of pre-release materials on Oink. It seems to me that most of these "leaks" had to come from employees of the record industry, these things just don't appear on Oink out of nowhere- not everyone has access to pre-releases. Maybe there should be an internal investigation into who the "leakers" are. Most of the people downloading these pre-releases probably don't give a shit WHEN they get it, if it's up there, they'll download it- if not then they'll wait. It's obviously stupid to defend illegal downloading, but to me the outrage seems to be heightened due to the "invite only" nature of Oink. It can't have been that exclusive, I know 5 people who used it...and I only know 5 people! If Oink was a more widely used site, then it wouldn't seem so scary and evil. Ignorance breeds fear, and there's definitely been some fear-mongering in the media coverage of this shut-down.</p> I think that the outrage of the record industry is directed mainly toward the leaking of pre-release materials on Oink. It seems to me that most of these “leaks” had to come from employees of the record industry, these things just don’t appear on Oink out of nowhere- not everyone has access to pre-releases. Maybe there should be an internal investigation into who the “leakers” are. Most of the people downloading these pre-releases probably don’t give a shit WHEN they get it, if it’s up there, they’ll download it- if not then they’ll wait. It’s obviously stupid to defend illegal downloading, but to me the outrage seems to be heightened due to the “invite only” nature of Oink. It can’t have been that exclusive, I know 5 people who used it…and I only know 5 people! If Oink was a more widely used site, then it wouldn’t seem so scary and evil. Ignorance breeds fear, and there’s definitely been some fear-mongering in the media coverage of this shut-down.

]]> By: mhulot http://idolator.com/314551/will-oinks-shutdown-cause-people-to-rush-the-shops-probably-not/comment-page-1#comment-325162 mhulot Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:48:40 +0000 f41249df3ea3398420a7bbcb973f7643#comment-325162 <p>@<a href="#c2762904">The Mozfather</a>: I'm not sure if you were serious or not, but that is a fantastic idea. Hear hear! It sounds like something that might even, one day, come from the record companies themselves.</p> @The Mozfather: I’m not sure if you were serious or not, but that is a fantastic idea. Hear hear! It sounds like something that might even, one day, come from the record companies themselves.

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