Comments on: Gene Simmons Gives The People A Lesson In Economics http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics Music News, Reviews, and Gossip on Idolator.com Sat, 26 May 2012 13:44:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Homage http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345242 Homage Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:58:35 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345242 <p>@<a href="#c2977938">metamuslix</a>: I also was under the impression that "chaos and anarchy" were sort of what we were going for with this whole "rock and roll" thing.</p> @metamuslix: I also was under the impression that “chaos and anarchy” were sort of what we were going for with this whole “rock and roll” thing.

]]> By: Richaod http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345252 Richaod Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:26:54 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345252 <p>Turning people into merchandise collectionists just so a retired "musician" can make another million bucks... THAT is thievery. It's not as if anyone buys his records, they're too busy buying KISS pinball machines and tickets to their umpteenth reunion tour.</p> <p>What does he need with so much money? It's not like he's going to give it to his children: <a linkindex="197" href="http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=81454">[www.roadrunnerrecords.com]</a></p> Turning people into merchandise collectionists just so a retired “musician” can make another million bucks… THAT is thievery. It’s not as if anyone buys his records, they’re too busy buying KISS pinball machines and tickets to their umpteenth reunion tour.

What does he need with so much money? It’s not like he’s going to give it to his children: [www.roadrunnerrecords.com]

]]> By: BestEuphemismEver http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345262 BestEuphemismEver Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:50:52 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345262 <p>@<a href="#c2972685">Antiheroine</a>: And a sunday morning cartoon show! And a guest spot on a really lousy sitcom (Thom and the lads meet Two and a Half Men - hilarity ensues!) Not to mention Radiohead candy. Mmm, tastes like disillusionment and ennui.</p> @Antiheroine: And a sunday morning cartoon show! And a guest spot on a really lousy sitcom (Thom and the lads meet Two and a Half Men – hilarity ensues!) Not to mention Radiohead candy. Mmm, tastes like disillusionment and ennui.

]]> By: sparkletone http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345272 sparkletone Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:24:54 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345272 <p>Really. Given Gene's willingness to license <i>all</i> conceivable merchandise rights, the fact that he can't come up with a way to sell things in a post-Napster world is just sad.</p> <p>Also, I know it's been said over and over again but really. What a fucking slimy individual.</p> Really. Given Gene’s willingness to license all conceivable merchandise rights, the fact that he can’t come up with a way to sell things in a post-Napster world is just sad.

Also, I know it’s been said over and over again but really. What a fucking slimy individual.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345282 Anonymous Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:10:03 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345282 <P>The whole statement,"...you have chaos and anarchy. And that's what (oops!) going on." is a pretty rock and roll, no? During the DIY days bands had no technology, just four tracks and some duct tape. Now they have technology, downloadable, often for nothing, and infinately distributable. Good for them. It's about the music! Right Gene?! Right? Gene?</P> The whole statement,”…you have chaos and anarchy. And that’s what (oops!) going on.” is a pretty rock and roll, no? During the DIY days bands had no technology, just four tracks and some duct tape. Now they have technology, downloadable, often for nothing, and infinately distributable. Good for them. It’s about the music! Right Gene?! Right? Gene?

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345292 Anonymous Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:09:23 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345292 <P>The argument has some merit, but of all of the artists I've heard make a "without potential financial reward, what's the point in creating music" argument, Ben Weasel was the only one I'd actually miss.</P> <P>*note: Ben Weasel was making a larger point, and was not as crass as my non-quote would indicate.</P> The argument has some merit, but of all of the artists I’ve heard make a “without potential financial reward, what’s the point in creating music” argument, Ben Weasel was the only one I’d actually miss.

*note: Ben Weasel was making a larger point, and was not as crass as my non-quote would indicate.

]]> By: Captain Wrong http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345302 Captain Wrong Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:54:08 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345302 <p>If only it was this easy to get other past their prime rockers to not release new music.</p> If only it was this easy to get other past their prime rockers to not release new music.

]]> By: Antiheroine http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345312 Antiheroine Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:35:57 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345312 <P>Seriously, Radiohead needs to do more comic book and action figure tie-ins. That defines "all about the music" right there.</P> Seriously, Radiohead needs to do more comic book and action figure tie-ins. That defines “all about the music” right there.

]]> By: King of Pants http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345322 King of Pants Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:31:59 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345322 <p>Considering that Gene Simmons took middling musical ability (and that's charitable) and made himself a gazillionaire, I'd be more apt to listen to him vis-a-vis the vagaries of the music industry than, say, some dipshit blogger carrying on how music magically makes itself and should be given away for free and la de doo da.</p> Considering that Gene Simmons took middling musical ability (and that’s charitable) and made himself a gazillionaire, I’d be more apt to listen to him vis-a-vis the vagaries of the music industry than, say, some dipshit blogger carrying on how music magically makes itself and should be given away for free and la de doo da.

]]> By: NickEddy http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345332 NickEddy Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:24:39 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345332 <P>I'm supposedly playing the part of Ace for him when KISS next play the Li'l Wampum Casino y Challah Hut Inc, so I will recuse myself from the gratuitous piling on.</P> <P>THAYER'S GONNA BE A CHANGE! etc</P> I’m supposedly playing the part of Ace for him when KISS next play the Li’l Wampum Casino y Challah Hut Inc, so I will recuse myself from the gratuitous piling on.

THAYER’S GONNA BE A CHANGE! etc

]]> By: Dickdogfood http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345342 Dickdogfood Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:33 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345342 <p>The music industry--the one Simmons understands and comprehends and knows how to make money from--is a relatively recent historical phenomenon, not an eternal truth, not the *only* conceivable mediator between musicians and audiences. I feel no special affection for it. And I'm not sad to see it disappear--but I AM alarmed to see it disappear SO FAST without a reasonably efficient and trustworthy replacement in play.</p> The music industry–the one Simmons understands and comprehends and knows how to make money from–is a relatively recent historical phenomenon, not an eternal truth, not the *only* conceivable mediator between musicians and audiences. I feel no special affection for it. And I’m not sad to see it disappear–but I AM alarmed to see it disappear SO FAST without a reasonably efficient and trustworthy replacement in play.

]]> By: FionaScrapple http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345352 FionaScrapple Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:51:46 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345352 <P>"The most important part is the music"</P> <P>Savor the irony. or the hypocrisy, whichever you prefer.</P> “The most important part is the music”

Savor the irony. or the hypocrisy, whichever you prefer.

]]> By: Ned Raggett http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345362 Ned Raggett Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:49:53 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345362 <p>@<a href="#c2971369">bbernardini</a>: <i>Music from the Elder</i> remains one of the most brilliantly ridiculous things ever.</p> @bbernardini: Music from the Elder remains one of the most brilliantly ridiculous things ever.

]]> By: troybulldogs21 http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345372 troybulldogs21 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:49:32 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345372 <p>I'm sure 1 million people don't work directly for the record industry, but how will it change the companies that print the music, deliver music, sell music (big box stores have alot of space dedicated to physical music), etc. It will have trickle down effects like anything else, and Gene is a pretty smart businessman, so I think he has some clue what he's talking about. And his reality show is awesome.</p> I’m sure 1 million people don’t work directly for the record industry, but how will it change the companies that print the music, deliver music, sell music (big box stores have alot of space dedicated to physical music), etc. It will have trickle down effects like anything else, and Gene is a pretty smart businessman, so I think he has some clue what he’s talking about. And his reality show is awesome.

]]> By: Ned Raggett http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345382 Ned Raggett Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:48:54 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345382 <p>@<a href="#c2971527">dickdogfood</a>: You have superior wisdom, sir.</p> @dickdogfood: You have superior wisdom, sir.

]]> By: Dickdogfood http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345392 Dickdogfood Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:46:39 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345392 <p>@<a href="#c2971236">Ned Raggett</a>: Oh, I thought by "the next level" you mean the "the devil's belly-button lint."</p> @Ned Raggett: Oh, I thought by “the next level” you mean the “the devil’s belly-button lint.”

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345402 Anonymous Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:33:51 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345402 <P>"The most important part is the music."</P> <P>Really, Gene? I have four words in response to that:</P> <P>"Music from 'The Elder'."</P> “The most important part is the music.”

Really, Gene? I have four words in response to that:

“Music from ‘The Elder’.”

]]> By: The Van Buren Boys http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345412 The Van Buren Boys Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:28:48 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345412 <P><I>Every little college kid, every freshly-scrubbed little kid's face should have been sued off the face of the earth. They should have taken their houses and cars and nipped it right there in the beginning.</I></P> <P>That's right Gene, taking all those houses and cars those rich college kids own will solve all of the problems. Oh and 100,000 to a <B>million</B> people put out of work? I'm sure that up to 1 out of every 300 Americans works for the record industry. (Note: I can't stand Gene Simmons so I'm required to disagree with everything he says no matter how much sense his second response makes.)</P> Every little college kid, every freshly-scrubbed little kid’s face should have been sued off the face of the earth. They should have taken their houses and cars and nipped it right there in the beginning.

That’s right Gene, taking all those houses and cars those rich college kids own will solve all of the problems. Oh and 100,000 to a million people put out of work? I’m sure that up to 1 out of every 300 Americans works for the record industry. (Note: I can’t stand Gene Simmons so I’m required to disagree with everything he says no matter how much sense his second response makes.)

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345422 Anonymous Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:28:02 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345422 <p><i>The only reason why gold is expensive is because we all agree that it is. </i><br> brilliant.<br> As a young person who dreams of playing music for at least a partial living, I have many questions about the marketing of my product. The fact that there is no longer a marketplace for that product is a little disturbing. Still, I don't give one rat's asshole that the major label recording industry has been neutered, they've been exploiting artists and consumers of music since there's been product and customers to exploit.<br> On the other hand I'm utterly perplexed how the indies or individuals who take on their own music sales ventures will make do in the future. <br> Save me Gene Simmons, I'm worth at least a deuce.</p> The only reason why gold is expensive is because we all agree that it is.
brilliant.
As a young person who dreams of playing music for at least a partial living, I have many questions about the marketing of my product. The fact that there is no longer a marketplace for that product is a little disturbing. Still, I don’t give one rat’s asshole that the major label recording industry has been neutered, they’ve been exploiting artists and consumers of music since there’s been product and customers to exploit.
On the other hand I’m utterly perplexed how the indies or individuals who take on their own music sales ventures will make do in the future.
Save me Gene Simmons, I’m worth at least a deuce.

]]> By: Ned Raggett http://idolator.com/322526/gene-simmons-gives-the-people-a-lesson-in-economics/comment-page-1#comment-345432 Ned Raggett Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:22:51 +0000 http://1c0f6c72b71d3963e5a938dbfb72b953#comment-345432 <p>He's just aiming for the next level:</p> <p><img src="http://www.sacredheartapostolate.com/images/SacredHeartJesus.jpg"></p> He’s just aiming for the next level:

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