Comments on: Dear Universal: Nobody Puts Robyn In The Remix Corner http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner Music News, Reviews, and Gossip on Idolator.com Sat, 26 May 2012 12:06:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: teknohed http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439932 teknohed Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:58:30 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439932 <p>This reminds me of when f'ing Gwen Stefani was shoe horned into Moby's South-Side single. I really enjoyed the album version, but when that head licking video came out I found myself explaining to everyone "that's not how the album version is. The album version is sort of sad and sardonic...with Gwen in there it's just marketing".</p> <p>Of course as I write this I realize that Gwen is really the poster child for sell out "cross-over" artist. I mean her albums are little more than a "special guest" filled cash grab.</p> This reminds me of when f’ing Gwen Stefani was shoe horned into Moby’s South-Side single. I really enjoyed the album version, but when that head licking video came out I found myself explaining to everyone “that’s not how the album version is. The album version is sort of sad and sardonic…with Gwen in there it’s just marketing”.

Of course as I write this I realize that Gwen is really the poster child for sell out “cross-over” artist. I mean her albums are little more than a “special guest” filled cash grab.

]]> By: westartedthis http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439942 westartedthis Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:52:58 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439942 <p>i sometimes think you guys are more cruel to the artists you love than the ones you hate. what would you have them do? place a prominent display in every store as a convenient dust-collector? no one in this country has given a shit about Robyn since 1998. and even then she was just "that one girl with that one song" - the beta test version of Britney. she's going to have to make slow inroads through guerrilla campaigns just like this one if she stands any chance at all. not to mention the parade of slow-on-the-uptake news outlets "outing" her as a former teenie-bopper.</p> <p>even if she does make it, will anyone in this country see her as more than a Pink or Gwen Stefani ripoff - based on her look alone (which is like, 99% of what anyone in american pop bases ANYTHING on)? there's a very <i>subtle</i> irony about what Robyn's doing that i just don't think will play in america. you said it yourself - she's not doing "pop" she's "interpreting the pop concept." americans can smell "art" from a mile away and they have never liked it.</p> i sometimes think you guys are more cruel to the artists you love than the ones you hate. what would you have them do? place a prominent display in every store as a convenient dust-collector? no one in this country has given a shit about Robyn since 1998. and even then she was just “that one girl with that one song” – the beta test version of Britney. she’s going to have to make slow inroads through guerrilla campaigns just like this one if she stands any chance at all. not to mention the parade of slow-on-the-uptake news outlets “outing” her as a former teenie-bopper.

even if she does make it, will anyone in this country see her as more than a Pink or Gwen Stefani ripoff – based on her look alone (which is like, 99% of what anyone in american pop bases ANYTHING on)? there’s a very subtle irony about what Robyn’s doing that i just don’t think will play in america. you said it yourself – she’s not doing “pop” she’s “interpreting the pop concept.” americans can smell “art” from a mile away and they have never liked it.

]]> By: Nunya B http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439952 Nunya B Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:24:07 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439952 <p>Er, that @ is supposed to be directed at <a href="#c3946610">dennisobell</a>.</p> Er, that @ is supposed to be directed at dennisobell.

]]> By: Nunya B http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439962 Nunya B Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:22:31 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439962 <p>I get this. Sort of. Robyn's always been very influenced by hip-hop in her own peculiarly Swedish way, and the hipsters seem to have eaten this up. I guess they figured that there was no way to market Robyn to a real pop audience and decided to go for the more "taste-making" audience, not that I put any stock in whether Stereogum or Pitchfork like this or not. "Sensual Seduction" seems to have caught the hipsters as well, so I can see how this idea might have been birthed, even if it's not really a good way.</p> <p>Popjustice forum members seem to like it well enough, and they have the most discerning collective ear for pop that I've ever heard, so who knows? And Cherrytree has a great track record (Feist is now a Global Superstar or whatever because of their marketing decisions)... so I'm not going to say "no" to this automatically.</p> <p>With regard to the song, it's stupid fun. I like it for the novelty, but I like all things Robyn regardless.</p> <p>@<a href="#c3945673">Plague</a>: Is VYP ever coming out? I really like all the singles I've heard and I do loves me some Lil Mama. I want to hold a copy of that CD in my dry, ugly hands.</p> I get this. Sort of. Robyn’s always been very influenced by hip-hop in her own peculiarly Swedish way, and the hipsters seem to have eaten this up. I guess they figured that there was no way to market Robyn to a real pop audience and decided to go for the more “taste-making” audience, not that I put any stock in whether Stereogum or Pitchfork like this or not. “Sensual Seduction” seems to have caught the hipsters as well, so I can see how this idea might have been birthed, even if it’s not really a good way.

Popjustice forum members seem to like it well enough, and they have the most discerning collective ear for pop that I’ve ever heard, so who knows? And Cherrytree has a great track record (Feist is now a Global Superstar or whatever because of their marketing decisions)… so I’m not going to say “no” to this automatically.

With regard to the song, it’s stupid fun. I like it for the novelty, but I like all things Robyn regardless.

@Plague: Is VYP ever coming out? I really like all the singles I’ve heard and I do loves me some Lil Mama. I want to hold a copy of that CD in my dry, ugly hands.

]]> By: Aleb http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439862 Aleb Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:50:00 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439862 <p>@<a href="#c3948650">cstmr srvc</a>: still not sure. An iPod commercial helped Feist but her album had debuted in the Top 20 and was already selling on its own. An iPod commercial didn't help CSS, all they had was the hype of the indie community, period.</p> <p>With Alicia Keys, Mary J. Blige, Fergie, Keyshia Cole, Colbie Caillat, Sara Bareilles and the upcoming releases from Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, Madonna and (ugh!) Leona Lewis, there will be no room for Robyn. Of course, I'd love to be proven wrong and to see that her quirky pop can sell, but I don't think it'll happen.</p> <p>As for Gnarls Barkley, they had "Crazy". As much as I think "Robyn" is a terrific album, she doesn't have a hit of such magnitude on it. And starting the promotion with an EP and a guest spot on a remix isn't really the best way for Interscope to try and get her back into the spotlight.</p> @cstmr srvc: still not sure. An iPod commercial helped Feist but her album had debuted in the Top 20 and was already selling on its own. An iPod commercial didn’t help CSS, all they had was the hype of the indie community, period.

With Alicia Keys, Mary J. Blige, Fergie, Keyshia Cole, Colbie Caillat, Sara Bareilles and the upcoming releases from Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, Madonna and (ugh!) Leona Lewis, there will be no room for Robyn. Of course, I’d love to be proven wrong and to see that her quirky pop can sell, but I don’t think it’ll happen.

As for Gnarls Barkley, they had “Crazy”. As much as I think “Robyn” is a terrific album, she doesn’t have a hit of such magnitude on it. And starting the promotion with an EP and a guest spot on a remix isn’t really the best way for Interscope to try and get her back into the spotlight.

]]> By: Cos http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439872 Cos Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:34:14 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439872 <p>They should just release "Konichiwa Bitches" as the first single. That would <i>kill.</i></p> They should just release “Konichiwa Bitches” as the first single. That would kill.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439852 Anonymous Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:24:16 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439852 <p>Isn't the bigger tragedy here that Snoop is still recording??</p> Isn’t the bigger tragedy here that Snoop is still recording??

]]> By: blobby http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439882 blobby Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:54:36 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439882 <p>@<a href="#c3948650">cstmr srvc</a>: wait, what?</p> @cstmr srvc: wait, what?

]]> By: cstmr srvc http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439892 cstmr srvc Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:09:09 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439892 <p><i>Sorry but I can't see <b>GNARLS BARKLEY</b> make a big splash in the US. She's not cute enough and too quirky to return to success in America</i></p> <p>she is one ipod commercial away.</p> Sorry but I can’t see GNARLS BARKLEY make a big splash in the US. She’s not cute enough and too quirky to return to success in America

she is one ipod commercial away.

]]> By: cstmr srvc http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439902 cstmr srvc Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:04:04 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439902 <p><i>she's not doing "pop" she's "interpreting the pop concept."</i></p> <p>which could have also possibly been said about missy elliot/timberland so so long ago (in pop time).</p> <p>one of the things that makes this interesting from a marketing perspective:<br> the general pop consumer does not/can not/will not get the<br> *wink wink * subtlety or the post- whatever whatever.<br> but they will still know these are great tracks.<br> tand the <i>super-savvy</i> this is so three years ago or<br> even those with keen perspective but not as hypemachined will pick up on the irony, but still know these are great tracks.</p> <p>who would have ever thought punk would've broke (avril)<br> or that harajuku nonsense would (gwen)?</p> she’s not doing “pop” she’s “interpreting the pop concept.”

which could have also possibly been said about missy elliot/timberland so so long ago (in pop time).

one of the things that makes this interesting from a marketing perspective:
the general pop consumer does not/can not/will not get the
*wink wink * subtlety or the post- whatever whatever.
but they will still know these are great tracks.
tand the super-savvy this is so three years ago or
even those with keen perspective but not as hypemachined will pick up on the irony, but still know these are great tracks.

who would have ever thought punk would’ve broke (avril)
or that harajuku nonsense would (gwen)?

]]> By: westartedthis http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439912 westartedthis Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:35:05 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439912 <p>wasn't it Morrissey who said, "America is not the internet"?</p> wasn’t it Morrissey who said, “America is not the internet”?

]]> By: Michaelangelo Matos http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439922 Michaelangelo Matos Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:11:07 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439922 <p>@<a href="#c3947595">westartedthis</a>: <i>even if she does make it, will anyone in this country see her as more than a Pink or Gwen Stefani ripoff - based on her look alone (which is like, 99% of what anyone on the internet bases ANYTHING on)?</i></p> <p>fixed</p> @westartedthis: even if she does make it, will anyone in this country see her as more than a Pink or Gwen Stefani ripoff – based on her look alone (which is like, 99% of what anyone on the internet bases ANYTHING on)?

fixed

]]> By: Chris Molanphy http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439972 Chris Molanphy Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:45:12 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439972 <p>Isn't this basically the Lil Mama strategy all over again? I mean, I'd say that it worked on the Avril Lavigne track, because that successfully set up "Lip Gloss"; but then Lil Mama's album got pulled. So basically, I don't see how a strategy like this can be employed to set up an album; a single, maybe.</p> <p>Weren't we all expecting the Robyn re-launch to get botched, anyway? [/cynical]</p> Isn’t this basically the Lil Mama strategy all over again? I mean, I’d say that it worked on the Avril Lavigne track, because that successfully set up “Lip Gloss”; but then Lil Mama’s album got pulled. So basically, I don’t see how a strategy like this can be employed to set up an album; a single, maybe.

Weren’t we all expecting the Robyn re-launch to get botched, anyway? [/cynical]

]]> By: Plague http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439982 Plague Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:56:31 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439982 <p>Welcome to Interscope Marketing! Put two artists together that don't belong together so fans of BOTH genres ignore them!</p> Welcome to Interscope Marketing! Put two artists together that don’t belong together so fans of BOTH genres ignore them!

]]> By: Aleb http://idolator.com/350177/dear-universal-nobody-puts-robyn-in-the-remix-corner/comment-page-1#comment-439992 Aleb Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:54:35 +0000 http://31f5e4dee7cf49d6041fcc17fa5295ed#comment-439992 <p>Sorry but I can't see Robyn make a big splash in the US. She's not cute enough and too quirky to return to success in America. Which is a crying shame.</p> Sorry but I can’t see Robyn make a big splash in the US. She’s not cute enough and too quirky to return to success in America. Which is a crying shame.

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