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		<title>By: AcidReign</title>
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		<dc:creator>AcidReign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; I think all Van Halen albums since the first have been lesser things.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; You have to remember, back when it came out, the big 4 were Led Zep, Aerosmith, Nuge, and ZZ Top. Zep was becoming a keyboard band as Pagey stuck needles in his arm. Aerosmith likewise was burning out. Nuge was huge, but it was cartoon rock. ZZ Top was getting into the plinky Roland Jazz-chorus guitar sound. The Bee Gees and Donna Summer were ruling the charts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; Along came VH-I. LOUD. Mean. Raw. &quot;Runnin&#039; with the Devil!&quot; These guys can play! Then, &quot;Eruption.&quot; There are not enough OMFG&#039;s in internet parlance to describe how much we were blown away! The whole rest of side one was a rollercoaster trip of amazing histrionics!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; The next two albums were lesser things. There were teases of greatness, but then they&#039;d spoil the moment with oddities like &quot;Spanish Fly,&quot; the accoustic version of &quot;Eruption.&quot; Then there was the  ridiculous &quot;Cradle will Rock&quot; thing where Eddie plugs an electric piano into one of his brown-sound, wanked out amps. And the early VH albums were SHORT, maybe a little over 30 minutes, total.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; &quot;Fair Warning&quot; got back close to the original, with less cute and more rock, but &quot;Diver Down&quot; had maybe two real &quot;Van Halen songs,&quot; and lots of wacky cover stuff like &quot;Big Bad Bill&quot; and &quot;Pretty Woman.&quot; Roth BUTCHERED the Orbison classic...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; I went out and bought &quot;1984&quot; the first day it was out at the record store. I put it on, and out of my speakers... I thought they had messed up and put a Ric Ocasic/Cars disk in there by mistake. What the HELL was this crap?!? Yes, there turned out to be some redeeming moments in that record (&quot;Hot for Teacher,&quot;&quot;Panama&quot;), but all the blatty synth stuff was NOT cool, to me!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; When &quot;5150&quot; came out, you heard the single on the radio. Just like Loverboy, just like Night Ranger, like Journey. Yes, EVH would still stick a few noodlie guitar bits in, but we now had radio-ready vocals, banks of keyboards, and the guitar sound was muted and sanitized. I kept checking VH out, but the &quot;loud guitar-driven rock&quot; aspect was missing till the &quot;Balance&quot; LP, in the early 1990s. The growl was back, the indulgent playing, the flange... Then van Hagar was over. Biggest problem with Sammy Hagar as a vocalist? No male over 13 can sing along. Not that high. We&#039;re all still mad at him over that, even as we approach the AARP age!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160; I enjoyed the VH-III disk. It was nice to hear Eddie playing a lot of different styles and sounds, with an actual lyricist worked in there. Finally, Van Halen had grown past stuff like &quot;Ever-buddy wants SUMMMM!&quot; And the CD-buying public didn&#039;t care...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; I think all Van Halen albums since the first have been lesser things.</p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; You have to remember, back when it came out, the big 4 were Led Zep, Aerosmith, Nuge, and ZZ Top. Zep was becoming a keyboard band as Pagey stuck needles in his arm. Aerosmith likewise was burning out. Nuge was huge, but it was cartoon rock. ZZ Top was getting into the plinky Roland Jazz-chorus guitar sound. The Bee Gees and Donna Summer were ruling the charts.</p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Along came VH-I. LOUD. Mean. Raw. &#8220;Runnin&#8217; with the Devil!&#8221; These guys can play! Then, &#8220;Eruption.&#8221; There are not enough OMFG&#8217;s in internet parlance to describe how much we were blown away! The whole rest of side one was a rollercoaster trip of amazing histrionics!</p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; The next two albums were lesser things. There were teases of greatness, but then they&#8217;d spoil the moment with oddities like &#8220;Spanish Fly,&#8221; the accoustic version of &#8220;Eruption.&#8221; Then there was the  ridiculous &#8220;Cradle will Rock&#8221; thing where Eddie plugs an electric piano into one of his brown-sound, wanked out amps. And the early VH albums were SHORT, maybe a little over 30 minutes, total.</p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &#8220;Fair Warning&#8221; got back close to the original, with less cute and more rock, but &#8220;Diver Down&#8221; had maybe two real &#8220;Van Halen songs,&#8221; and lots of wacky cover stuff like &#8220;Big Bad Bill&#8221; and &#8220;Pretty Woman.&#8221; Roth BUTCHERED the Orbison classic&#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; I went out and bought &#8220;1984&#8243; the first day it was out at the record store. I put it on, and out of my speakers&#8230; I thought they had messed up and put a Ric Ocasic/Cars disk in there by mistake. What the HELL was this crap?!? Yes, there turned out to be some redeeming moments in that record (&#8221;Hot for Teacher,&#8221;"Panama&#8221;), but all the blatty synth stuff was NOT cool, to me!</p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; When &#8220;5150&#8243; came out, you heard the single on the radio. Just like Loverboy, just like Night Ranger, like Journey. Yes, EVH would still stick a few noodlie guitar bits in, but we now had radio-ready vocals, banks of keyboards, and the guitar sound was muted and sanitized. I kept checking VH out, but the &#8220;loud guitar-driven rock&#8221; aspect was missing till the &#8220;Balance&#8221; LP, in the early 1990s. The growl was back, the indulgent playing, the flange&#8230; Then van Hagar was over. Biggest problem with Sammy Hagar as a vocalist? No male over 13 can sing along. Not that high. We&#8217;re all still mad at him over that, even as we approach the AARP age!</p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; I enjoyed the VH-III disk. It was nice to hear Eddie playing a lot of different styles and sounds, with an actual lyricist worked in there. Finally, Van Halen had grown past stuff like &#8220;Ever-buddy wants SUMMMM!&#8221; And the CD-buying public didn&#8217;t care&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: westartedthis</title>
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		<dc:creator>westartedthis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;yer god damn right, maybe T. Rex.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you know, it embarrasses me to admit it, but as a kid Van Hagar was my first experience with the band (For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge era) so it was a few years before i knew &lt;i&gt;the singer from Van Halen hadn&#039;t always been the same guy&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yer god damn right, maybe T. Rex.</p>
<p>you know, it embarrasses me to admit it, but as a kid Van Hagar was my first experience with the band (For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge era) so it was a few years before i knew <i>the singer from Van Halen hadn&#8217;t always been the same guy</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: natepatrin</title>
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		<dc:creator>natepatrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c4928322&quot;&gt;Clevertrousers&lt;/a&gt;: Dude with a Hitler cat icon talking shit about the greatest Jew-fronted rock band of all time*? I don&#039;t like where that&#039;s headed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*well OK fine, maybe T. Rex&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c4928322">Clevertrousers</a>: Dude with a Hitler cat icon talking shit about the greatest Jew-fronted rock band of all time*? I don&#8217;t like where that&#8217;s headed.</p>
<p>*well OK fine, maybe T. Rex</p>
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		<title>By: Clevertrousers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clevertrousers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;Feh. Van Halen was always just date-rape rock for coked-out meatheads. Total crap.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feh. Van Halen was always just date-rape rock for coked-out meatheads. Total crap.</p>
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		<title>By: revmatty</title>
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		<dc:creator>revmatty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The problem with 1984 is that it&#039;s so heavily associated with &quot;Jump&quot; that a lot of the good stuff on it gets forgotten.  I will note that Skyscraper was DLR&#039;s 5150.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with 1984 is that it&#8217;s so heavily associated with &#8220;Jump&#8221; that a lot of the good stuff on it gets forgotten.  I will note that Skyscraper was DLR&#8217;s 5150.</p>
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		<title>By: dippinkind</title>
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		<dc:creator>dippinkind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/373599/hey-van-halen-sold-a-lot-of-records-after-dave-left#c4924135&quot;&gt;StuntKockSteeev&lt;/A&gt;: TRUE. Rock the nation... though Sammy still sounds a little too constipated for it to reach its ideal rocking potential&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/373599/hey-van-halen-sold-a-lot-of-records-after-dave-left#c4924135">StuntKockSteeev</a>: TRUE. Rock the nation&#8230; though Sammy still sounds a little too constipated for it to reach its ideal rocking potential</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c4922793&quot;&gt;dippinkind&lt;/a&gt;: In spite of my general dislike for just about any Sammy Hagar project, the first Montrose album rocks fucking house.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c4922793">dippinkind</a>: In spite of my general dislike for just about any Sammy Hagar project, the first Montrose album rocks fucking house.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterBjorn&#38;Yawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeterBjorn&#38;Yawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Diamond Dave era sucks slightly less than the Hagar era, which sucks way less than the Cherone era.  They all suck.  Get over it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Diamond Dave era sucks slightly less than the Hagar era, which sucks way less than the Cherone era.  They all suck.  Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: dippinkind</title>
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		<dc:creator>dippinkind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/373599/hey-van-halen-sold-a-lot-of-records-after-dave-left#c4923179&quot;&gt;MickFNS&lt;/A&gt;: well i don&#039;t know about as fresh as exciting as &lt;I&gt;anything&lt;/I&gt;, Ride The Lightning did come out in 1984 too. i just think compared to the first album or Fair Warning they&#039;d gotten a little lighter and slicker. But again, i do love Diver Down and 1984 very much.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/373599/hey-van-halen-sold-a-lot-of-records-after-dave-left#c4923179">MickFNS</a>: well i don&#8217;t know about as fresh as exciting as <i>anything</i>, Ride The Lightning did come out in 1984 too. i just think compared to the first album or Fair Warning they&#8217;d gotten a little lighter and slicker. But again, i do love Diver Down and 1984 very much.</p>
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		<title>By: FionaScrapple</title>
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		<dc:creator>FionaScrapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;I disagree that 1984 marked a &quot;downhill&quot; trend for Van Halen. In many respects, it&#039;s not just the pinnacle of what VH achieved, it&#039;s the pinnacle of what rock music in the 80&#039;s achieved.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The album is that good.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that 1984 marked a &#8220;downhill&#8221; trend for Van Halen. In many respects, it&#8217;s not just the pinnacle of what VH achieved, it&#8217;s the pinnacle of what rock music in the 80&#8217;s achieved.</p>
<p>The album is that good.</p>
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