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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m jumping in with a comment because I suspect my presentation at the Leadership Music Digital Summit is what sparked this post.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What I said on stage was that technology has already democratized music production AND retail distribution.  It&#039;s cheaper than ever to make music and to put it up for sale; as a result, it&#039;s harder than ever to get discovered because more people are competing for attention.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe the most exciting frontier for innovation in the music industry is for technology to also democratize the  discovery/promotion process.    This could enable more artists to pursue and realize their dreams and create enormous value.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The trend is already under way -- simple tools like email or IM already result in &quot;quality&quot; content spreading rapidly from friend to friend.  But there&#039;s much room for innovation to accelerate discovery via social/viral spread (eg Myspace &amp; Youtube facilitate viral spread), or via personalized recommendations (eg Pandora), or both.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;iLike has some interesting features in this regard.  For example, we help artists send messages and concert alerts to their existing fans via an iTunes plugin -- an extremely simple concept in principle, yet one that opens up a wealth of new possibilities.  Another example: if you click on one of our concert listings on Facebook, we facilitate inviting your friends by showing you a list of *your* friends in that city who like that artist.  As a music-lover who was previously using email to tell my friends about concerts, I think this is a pretty kick-ass feature.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I define &quot;discovery&quot; fairly broadly, to include live music, or new releases from existing artists.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think we (the industry) have only just begun exploring the ways that technology can facilitate discovery, and I think it&#039;s way too early to write it off.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lastly, I agree with the quote that people &quot;don&#039;t seek to discover music - it just happens.&quot;  That&#039;s why a big part of iLike&#039;s success has been to integrate inside Facebook, iTunes, and a dozen other places where people already spend their time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;regards,&lt;br&gt;
Ali Partovi, CEO, iLike&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m jumping in with a comment because I suspect my presentation at the Leadership Music Digital Summit is what sparked this post.</p>
<p>What I said on stage was that technology has already democratized music production AND retail distribution.  It&#8217;s cheaper than ever to make music and to put it up for sale; as a result, it&#8217;s harder than ever to get discovered because more people are competing for attention.</p>
<p>I believe the most exciting frontier for innovation in the music industry is for technology to also democratize the  discovery/promotion process.    This could enable more artists to pursue and realize their dreams and create enormous value.</p>
<p>The trend is already under way &#8212; simple tools like email or IM already result in &#8220;quality&#8221; content spreading rapidly from friend to friend.  But there&#8217;s much room for innovation to accelerate discovery via social/viral spread (eg Myspace &amp; Youtube facilitate viral spread), or via personalized recommendations (eg Pandora), or both.</p>
<p>iLike has some interesting features in this regard.  For example, we help artists send messages and concert alerts to their existing fans via an iTunes plugin &#8212; an extremely simple concept in principle, yet one that opens up a wealth of new possibilities.  Another example: if you click on one of our concert listings on Facebook, we facilitate inviting your friends by showing you a list of *your* friends in that city who like that artist.  As a music-lover who was previously using email to tell my friends about concerts, I think this is a pretty kick-ass feature.</p>
<p>I define &#8220;discovery&#8221; fairly broadly, to include live music, or new releases from existing artists.</p>
<p>I think we (the industry) have only just begun exploring the ways that technology can facilitate discovery, and I think it&#8217;s way too early to write it off.</p>
<p>Lastly, I agree with the quote that people &#8220;don&#8217;t seek to discover music &#8211; it just happens.&#8221;  That&#8217;s why a big part of iLike&#8217;s success has been to integrate inside Facebook, iTunes, and a dozen other places where people already spend their time.</p>
<p>regards,<br />
Ali Partovi, CEO, iLike</p>
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		<title>By: Lawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;The third conclusion I draw is I know sweet fuck all about the way people actually listen to music&quot;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The third conclusion I draw is I know sweet fuck all about the way people actually listen to music&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ens3000</title>
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		<dc:creator>ens3000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;Re: the friends part in the title of this post, I think the answer is actually yes.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the friends part in the title of this post, I think the answer is actually yes.</p>
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		<title>By: mackro</title>
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		<dc:creator>mackro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;this works only within micro-genres.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Example: if you bought, say, Digitalism on iTunes, iTunes will put up similar artists on a dashboard, and make it really easy for you to preview these in no time.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;With a combination of tight genre proximity and high degree of convenience, a &lt;I&gt;submodel&lt;/I&gt; of this idea can work.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As a general business model? Nooo.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this works only within micro-genres.</p>
<p>Example: if you bought, say, Digitalism on iTunes, iTunes will put up similar artists on a dashboard, and make it really easy for you to preview these in no time.</p>
<p>With a combination of tight genre proximity and high degree of convenience, a <i>submodel</i> of this idea can work.</p>
<p>As a general business model? Nooo.</p>
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		<title>By: bcapirigi</title>
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		<dc:creator>bcapirigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;there&#039;s also the problem that when you do hear something on the radio you like--which happens to me, sometimes--there are no DJs to tell you what it is you just heard.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s also the problem that when you do hear something on the radio you like&#8211;which happens to me, sometimes&#8211;there are no DJs to tell you what it is you just heard.</p>
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		<title>By: Halfwit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halfwit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c5354213&quot;&gt;PopIsNotDead&lt;/a&gt;: I tried TheFilter, and I also tried Suundflavor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The only one that&#039;s ever worked for me is Pandora. I think it allows me to have my cake and eat it too: I do listen to find new music, but I know I can just let it run in the background like a favorite radio station and just bring up the window when I&#039;m &quot;surprised&quot; by something I hadn&#039;t heard before.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Finally, though, the social networking process is crap. I obssessively track my habits on Last.Fm, but I don&#039;t give two figs what my &quot;neighbors&quot; are listening to.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5354213">PopIsNotDead</a>: I tried TheFilter, and I also tried Suundflavor.</p>
<p>The only one that&#8217;s ever worked for me is Pandora. I think it allows me to have my cake and eat it too: I do listen to find new music, but I know I can just let it run in the background like a favorite radio station and just bring up the window when I&#8217;m &#8220;surprised&#8221; by something I hadn&#8217;t heard before.</p>
<p>Finally, though, the social networking process is crap. I obssessively track my habits on Last.Fm, but I don&#8217;t give two figs what my &#8220;neighbors&#8221; are listening to.</p>
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		<title>By: Catbirdseat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catbirdseat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Remember, VCs are only interested in throwing money at concepts that were &quot;hot&quot; approximately 12-18 months ago.  None of them are really all that willing to take a chance on something that&#039;s really a new or novel or unproven idea.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, on the other hand, if any VCs are reading this, please disregard my statement above, and give me a holler, I&#039;d love to send you my deck.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, VCs are only interested in throwing money at concepts that were &#8220;hot&#8221; approximately 12-18 months ago.  None of them are really all that willing to take a chance on something that&#8217;s really a new or novel or unproven idea.</p>
<p>Now, on the other hand, if any VCs are reading this, please disregard my statement above, and give me a holler, I&#8217;d love to send you my deck.</p>
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		<title>By: AL</title>
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		<dc:creator>AL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the idea of &quot;new music&quot; takes a backseat to &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt; on Idol: to the media event, the personalities (incl those of the hosts &amp; judges), the apparent democracy in decision-making, etc etc. The whole thing just happens to revolve around a singing competition, which I think has been more successful than other similar competitions because, again, singing has a democratizing element. Anyone can do it, and &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt; thinks they can judge a good singer from a bad one. If there is any interest in &quot;new music&quot;, I think it&#039;s reducing that newness to mere novelty, as evidenced by the quick career declines of most Idol winners and deal-receiving runners-up.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the idea of &#8220;new music&#8221; takes a backseat to <i>everything</i> on Idol: to the media event, the personalities (incl those of the hosts &amp; judges), the apparent democracy in decision-making, etc etc. The whole thing just happens to revolve around a singing competition, which I think has been more successful than other similar competitions because, again, singing has a democratizing element. Anyone can do it, and <i>everyone</i> thinks they can judge a good singer from a bad one. If there is any interest in &#8220;new music&#8221;, I think it&#8217;s reducing that newness to mere novelty, as evidenced by the quick career declines of most Idol winners and deal-receiving runners-up.</p>
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		<title>By: PopIsNotDead</title>
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		<dc:creator>PopIsNotDead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a name=&quot;image:33/2008/04/383521/141964/smallish_discover-music.png&quot; class=&quot;commentImagePlaceholder&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have experienced a hearty malaise over the &quot;music discovery&quot; issue lately.  Between Peter Gabriel&#039;s TheFIlter and every other content discovery site purporting to be able to show me things I&#039;ll like based on the things I already know I like, I just  don&#039;t think it&#039;s working.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not to be totally self-serving, but we were just talking about a similar theme &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.burstlabs.com/2008/how-much-is-too-much/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;- the issue of distilling your taste down to an algorithm.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>I have experienced a hearty malaise over the &#8220;music discovery&#8221; issue lately.  Between Peter Gabriel&#8217;s TheFIlter and every other content discovery site purporting to be able to show me things I&#8217;ll like based on the things I already know I like, I just  don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s working.</p>
<p>Not to be totally self-serving, but we were just talking about a similar theme <a href="http://blog.burstlabs.com/2008/how-much-is-too-much/">here</a>- the issue of distilling your taste down to an algorithm.</p>
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