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		<title>By: scott pgwp</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott pgwp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;Yeah, I knew it was a distributor but forgot which. Also didn&#039;t realize ADA was owned by Warners, which makes my comment more salient than I&#039;d realized, as it&#039;s often tough to tell what you&#039;re dealing with when it comes to corporations and conglomerates.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also an interesting thing to keep in mind with regard to the licensing conversation... off the top of my head I know that places like Dominos and Urban Outfitters give a lot of money to awful awful things; surely a lot of these other corporations that indie bands are selling their songs to similarly deal in gifts to right-wing/relgious/worse organizations.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I knew it was a distributor but forgot which. Also didn&#8217;t realize ADA was owned by Warners, which makes my comment more salient than I&#8217;d realized, as it&#8217;s often tough to tell what you&#8217;re dealing with when it comes to corporations and conglomerates.</p>
<p>Also an interesting thing to keep in mind with regard to the licensing conversation&#8230; off the top of my head I know that places like Dominos and Urban Outfitters give a lot of money to awful awful things; surely a lot of these other corporations that indie bands are selling their songs to similarly deal in gifts to right-wing/relgious/worse organizations.</p>
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		<title>By: fac51x</title>
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		<dc:creator>fac51x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 06:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/394818/insounds-tip-jar-a-sign-that-making-your-money-on-the-road-may-not-be-all-that-viable-a-strategy#c6010174&quot;&gt;scott pgwp&lt;/A&gt;: The company that owns Insound is now ADA (Warners).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/341586/&quot;&gt;[idolator.com]&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/394818/insounds-tip-jar-a-sign-that-making-your-money-on-the-road-may-not-be-all-that-viable-a-strategy#c6010174">scott pgwp</a>: The company that owns Insound is now ADA (Warners).</p>
<p><a href="http://idolator.com/341586/">[idolator.com]</a></p>
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		<title>By: scott pgwp</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott pgwp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/394818/insounds-tip-jar-a-sign-that-making-your-money-on-the-road-may-not-be-all-that-viable-a-strategy#c6005956&quot;&gt;the rich girls are weeping&lt;/A&gt;: you&#039;d do better look into the corporate giving programs of the company that owns Insound--or the company that sells you toothpaste or fried chicken--and base your spending habits on &lt;I&gt;that&lt;/I&gt; shady business, rather than getting pissed about your quarter going to an indie rock band that might have a good publicist. (for the record I have no idea if the company that owns InSound gives money to anyone... just sayin&#039; there&#039;s other things to be concerned about when it comes to where your money goes after you spend it.)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Blackmail - very good point. I just spent $45 filling up my Ford Focus; imagine what a touring band must be going through right now! Especially if that is &lt;I&gt;the&lt;/I&gt; way they&#039;re expected to make money.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This whole tip jar thing... it&#039;s a straw man. I&#039;d bet Coolfer, Maura, and the folks at InSound would all agree that this lame idea is merely symptomatic of the broken machine. I mean, InSound is a purveyor of a product that doesn&#039;t sell... any additional cash they&#039;re asking for is the equivalent of asking for a bucket on a sinking ship.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Maura, I don&#039;t know that my analogy is flawed; because it all comes back to the consumer. It&#039;s the &lt;I&gt;consumer&#039;s&lt;/I&gt; fault that the industry is dying. So long as people don&#039;t pay for music, then musicians won&#039;t get paid. That&#039;s totally simplistic, but then again it&#039;s a pretty simple problem. I&#039;m not saying that labels need to exist any more, or any of that machinery (maybe they do, maybe they don&#039;t); but people need to look at their iTunes library: if music is coming into your library and money is not going out of your wallet, then it&#039;s &lt;I&gt;your&lt;/I&gt; fault. Same goes if you&#039;re a fatty and you keep sneaking Cheetos. Yer gonna stay fat and the music industry is going to continue dying.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/394818/insounds-tip-jar-a-sign-that-making-your-money-on-the-road-may-not-be-all-that-viable-a-strategy#c6005956">the rich girls are weeping</a>: you&#8217;d do better look into the corporate giving programs of the company that owns Insound&#8211;or the company that sells you toothpaste or fried chicken&#8211;and base your spending habits on <i>that</i> shady business, rather than getting pissed about your quarter going to an indie rock band that might have a good publicist. (for the record I have no idea if the company that owns InSound gives money to anyone&#8230; just sayin&#8217; there&#8217;s other things to be concerned about when it comes to where your money goes after you spend it.)</p>
<p>Blackmail &#8211; very good point. I just spent $45 filling up my Ford Focus; imagine what a touring band must be going through right now! Especially if that is <i>the</i> way they&#8217;re expected to make money.</p>
<p>This whole tip jar thing&#8230; it&#8217;s a straw man. I&#8217;d bet Coolfer, Maura, and the folks at InSound would all agree that this lame idea is merely symptomatic of the broken machine. I mean, InSound is a purveyor of a product that doesn&#8217;t sell&#8230; any additional cash they&#8217;re asking for is the equivalent of asking for a bucket on a sinking ship.</p>
<p>Maura, I don&#8217;t know that my analogy is flawed; because it all comes back to the consumer. It&#8217;s the <i>consumer&#8217;s</i> fault that the industry is dying. So long as people don&#8217;t pay for music, then musicians won&#8217;t get paid. That&#8217;s totally simplistic, but then again it&#8217;s a pretty simple problem. I&#8217;m not saying that labels need to exist any more, or any of that machinery (maybe they do, maybe they don&#8217;t); but people need to look at their iTunes library: if music is coming into your library and money is not going out of your wallet, then it&#8217;s <i>your</i> fault. Same goes if you&#8217;re a fatty and you keep sneaking Cheetos. Yer gonna stay fat and the music industry is going to continue dying.</p>
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		<title>By: jt.ramsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>jt.ramsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another thing that touring advocates leave out is escalating gas prices. We&#039;re all going to end up being localvores in our music scenes too at the rate things are going.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that touring advocates leave out is escalating gas prices. We&#8217;re all going to end up being localvores in our music scenes too at the rate things are going.</p>
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		<title>By: the rich girls are weeping</title>
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		<dc:creator>the rich girls are weeping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What I want to know:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) How were these bands selected?&lt;br&gt;
2) Is it somehow connected to the PR for their current release/tour?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Way to ensure that I won&#039;t buy anything from you, Insound. I don&#039;t care if it&#039;s out of their take, I want to know how the  &quot;lucky bands&quot; in question were selected before I go doling out quarters to support their tour.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, I could be really crappy and point out that they&#039;re all gonna play NYC or Bklyn anyway, so ... (Then again, I know EXACTLY how much bands pull down in a venue, say, the size of Union Pool or Union Hall. And yeah, it&#039;s kind of not worth the trouble sometimes.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I want to know:</p>
<p>1) How were these bands selected?<br />
2) Is it somehow connected to the PR for their current release/tour?</p>
<p>Way to ensure that I won&#8217;t buy anything from you, Insound. I don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s out of their take, I want to know how the  &#8220;lucky bands&#8221; in question were selected before I go doling out quarters to support their tour.</p>
<p>Also, I could be really crappy and point out that they&#8217;re all gonna play NYC or Bklyn anyway, so &#8230; (Then again, I know EXACTLY how much bands pull down in a venue, say, the size of Union Pool or Union Hall. And yeah, it&#8217;s kind of not worth the trouble sometimes.)</p>
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		<title>By: King of Pants</title>
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		<dc:creator>King of Pants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BUT MAURA, I HAVE A SPECIOUS AND SELF-SERVING ARGUMENT TO JUSTIFY NEVER SPENDING ANY MONEY ON MUSIC BASED ON THE WET DREAMS OF CORY DOCTOROW!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BUT MAURA, I HAVE A SPECIOUS AND SELF-SERVING ARGUMENT TO JUSTIFY NEVER SPENDING ANY MONEY ON MUSIC BASED ON THE WET DREAMS OF CORY DOCTOROW!!!!!</p>
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