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It all started when Dillinger Escape Plan guitarist Ben Weinman mocked Disturbed’s sound check, claiming the body-modification champions were “practicing where they were going to walk and when they were going to put their leg up on the monitor and pose.” Disturbed has since responded, saying a) all they do is make sure the guitarist is under the spotlight for his big solo and b) how the hell did some dillweed punk guitarist get into the room during their sound check anyway? Sez the happy dude pictured to the left: “It’s called production — it’s what any big professional band that isn’t just punk rock… Not to say that there is anything wrong with punk rock, because I have my roots in it, but you can’t compare the two styles of a show.” But Weinman isn’t buying it.
First Disturbed guitarist Dan Donegan protested to MTV (a little too much) that he didn’t give a shit about these punkers:
“When we do a bigger production, there may be certain lighting cues for certain highlights of the show, but I wouldn’t call it ‘posing,’ just a cue for our lighting guy, so he can add more drama to the set. If [Dillinger] sold some records, and were at the level we’re at, maybe they’d see that, for bands like Kiss and Metallica, there are certain highlight points during a set that you want to focus on. If I’m going to go over to one spot and do a guitar solo, my lighting guy may need to know that, so he can focus in on that.
If that’s posing, then so be it. To me, I don’t think we talk about when we’re going to put our foot up on a monitor. That’s just silly. It’s a natural thing we do. Those guys can say whatever they want. If that’s supposed to be a jab at us, am I offended? I don’t give a shit. If they’re saying it because they’re haters, why? Because we sell millions of records and lots of tickets? It sounds more like jealousy to me.”
Then Weinman made fun of Donegan on Myspace for giving a shit:
The guitar player Dom Deluise or whatever his name is with the little peen complex from that band Disturbia or whatever they’re called thinks that we care about them. Old news, but still funny. Check it. “My Ferrari is better than your Honda!!! Our stages come apart and travel with us and yours don’t!!! We have thirty guitar techs and you have one!”. Coooool self esteem barometer douchebag. Wait…what’s that I hear? The sound of your band still sucking? Oh, right. Gotcha there, bud.
Now Draiman’s trying to bring the peace on Rockline:
The Dillinger Escape Plan are more punk and I respect them for what they do — I’m not even calling them out on any level, in any way shape or form. I like the style of what they do. I don’t understand what the hell they think they saw with us, but gentlemen, let me give you a little bit of education: This is what the big boys do who play stadium shows — they wanna worry about how the lights look that they spend so much money on.”
The video for “Inside The Fire,” from Disturbed’s recently released Indestructible, opens with a suicide prevention spot by Draiman, followed by a woman hanging herself in her apartment before Three Times One Minus One could make it a’ight. Instead, Draiman enters her apartment, drops his groceries and yells “no!” as he and the band pose for a while before covering themselves with her blood. Draiman puts a shotgun into his a mouth, only to appear straight-jacketed in a loony bin, as the suicide prevention number is shown again.
I don’t think you have to be Dillinger Escape Plan to find this totally ridiculous.
DISTURBED Frontman Is ‘Confused’ By THE DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN Guitarist’s Comments [Blabbermouth]
THE DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN: DISTURBED Guitarist Is A ‘Douche Bag’ With A ‘Little-Peen Complex’ [Blabbermouth]
Disturbed – Inside The Fire (FULL VIDEO) [YouTube]
Only vaguely related: I was grocery shopping this weekend (which I rarely do because I am incapable of cooking) and was shocked to discover that dill weed is actually a product and not just a dated insult: [homecooking.about.com] I truly had no idea.
OooOOOO Girl…oooo.
Also, the “not that there’s anything wrong with that” line was so not metal, boyzzz.
“The guitar player Dom Deluise or whatever his name is with the little peen complex from that band Disturbia or whatever they’re called thinks that we care about them.”
So… wait.
Everyone involved in this IS over the age of 30, right?
Is anyone else scared by his “soul-patch that points directly to my chin fat” thing?
Gotta admit, the Dom Deluise line was pretty funny even though I think everyone involved in this is a moron.
It’s disappointing that the Dillinger guys commented on it more than once.
Saying, “hey, the metal guy is posing,” is fine. Responding to his response is becoming Pete Wentz.
You’re better than this, Dillinger.
@KurticusMaximus: I love Dillinger but sadly they are not “better” than this. Getting into public fights with other much bigger and shittier bands is sort of their M.O.
Didn’t they have a huge tussle with My Chemical Romance or Good Charlotte a couple of years ago?
Rock stars be allowed on the internet rules.
You know, e-peen fight aside, ICP had a song about what to do with a girl who hangs herself. Just saying.
You take her out, thuggin’.
@noamjamski: Ohhh, yeah, I think it was Avenged Sevenfold.
And didn’t Disturbed beat up Finch way back when, too? These little tussles are so amusing.
Those guys in DEP can eat a d*ck. They destroyed one of my favorite bay area musical landmarks all in the name of “punk rock”. More here:
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@tremans: There was a window near the stage? Isn’t that just asking to be broken eventually? Especially if you have bands like Dillinger playing there.
Seems like, if you’re going to book bands like that, you probably want to keep the pretty glass things under the counter.
“OMG! Hold on.. what to do.. let me check my What Would Kurt Cobain Do? bracelet! YES! Shotgun! Of course!”
Wait… Firt of all who the hell is DEP and so what if Disturbed is practicing their light cues. Why not worry about their show and stop trying to poke at bands that have more fans and more sales than they will EVER have. Also how can you compare these two types of music? I am a huge Disturbed fan and I have to say if this band DEP is known for poking at other bands, then in my eyes they’re pretty sad. Let your music make your mark not some stupid things you say or do. But I guess some people don’t know how to do that. Disturbed does that and if anyone has anything to say please keep it to yourself because this Disturbed fan doesn’t give a sh#t about DEP and knows Disturbed will continue to rock. Disturbed ROCKS and KICKS ASS!!!!!
I must be a bad journalist that this is the first I’ve heard of a feud brewing… since I was the guy who provided DEP a platform.
The quote is from an interview I did prior to their Australian tour. And I’m glowing with pride that these two were having a pointless spat with each other because of something I wrote.
The broader story was as follows -
Declaring yourselves as ‘unpredictable’ is often a way to demonstrate how hugely predictable you are. But Weinman’s cure is to interact with all their different environments (Puciato is also renowned for perilously scaling the insides of a venue and using every inch of stage). The set list is one constant, but what happens in between a song starting and finishing, “none of us know.”
When Dillinger find themselves on dual headlining bills, or festivals, they get to see the sadly rehearsed acts of other bands. Heavy rock cavemen Disturbed were soundchecking before an English show and Weinman was taken aback that they were “practicing where they were going to walk and when they were going to put their leg up on the monitor and pose. That was weird for us. There are times where I don’t even know where I am.”
Wanks to self…
“Instead, Draiman enters her apartment, drops his groceries and yells “no!” as he and the band pose for a while before covering themselves with her blood. Draiman puts a shotgun into his a mouth,”
Whoever wrote this should really be ashamed of him/herself. This song is actually about the girlfriend Draiman had once, that killed herself from an overdose of drugs. You have obviously not been through something like that, neither have I. Therefore you can’t imagine how horrible it was for him. The fact that you make fun of this video is only making yourself seem like a disrespectful person. When people have gone through something like this, you could atleast give them respect.
I have seen this video by the way, and everything after he screams “no” is something you’ve made up to make them look bad. The video really isn’t like that, so I suggest you watch the real video, and read a bit about the story behind it. Maybe you’ll understand what I’m talking about, and also why you’ve done something cruel.
And by the way, the part where you say there are groceries is also wrong. All you can see is that he has a backpack around his shoulder. This was another of your attempts to make fun of Disturbed by making up theories which aren’t even based on truth. Once again: watch the real video and see how wrong you are.
DEP will always suck. even other punk bands laugh at them!