Comments on: All Points West: Come For Radiohead, Stay For The Chance To Complain About The Beer Policies http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies Music News, Reviews, and Gossip on Idolator.com Sat, 26 May 2012 21:38:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Silicone Bracelets http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-1231361 Silicone Bracelets Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:14:56 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-1231361 Good post, thanks Good post, thanks

]]> By: Silicone bracelets http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-1030322 Silicone bracelets Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:57:51 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-1030322 so the people that can only purchased a beer it the one who has the signature wristband came from the organizer. what about the people who took an effort on joining the event? so the people that can only purchased a beer it the one who has the signature wristband came from the organizer. what about the people who took an effort on joining the event?

]]> By: science vs romance http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672772 science vs romance Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:06:09 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672772 <p>If you think about APW as two Radiohead shows with good openers, it was well above decent.</p> <p>My least favorite part was how the gates were staffed by maybe 12 security people who sometimes asked you to tear your own ticket that they didn't scan and followed-up with a cursory search, yet managed to do it so slowly that the line backed up for a half hour to forty minutes.</p> If you think about APW as two Radiohead shows with good openers, it was well above decent.

My least favorite part was how the gates were staffed by maybe 12 security people who sometimes asked you to tear your own ticket that they didn’t scan and followed-up with a cursory search, yet managed to do it so slowly that the line backed up for a half hour to forty minutes.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672782 Anonymous Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:25:16 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672782 <p>@<a href="#c7161697">SuchetaBabalistic</a>: A festival usually encompasses acts of various popularity levels. Hence, when you have an act that plays Webster Hall (1200) playing second to last on the main stage, you really have no business charging $250 for a 3-day pass.</p> @SuchetaBabalistic: A festival usually encompasses acts of various popularity levels. Hence, when you have an act that plays Webster Hall (1200) playing second to last on the main stage, you really have no business charging $250 for a 3-day pass.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672792 Anonymous Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:52:42 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672792 <p>also, you couldn't just rip off your wristband and get another b/c they were marking you hand with a marker that 3 days and 3 showers later still hasn't come off.</p> <p>I had friends with handy-wipes who would drink 5, leave the tent, rip off their wristbands, wipe off the marker, and get new ones. Even still you couldn't drink and watch music. Which, may I add, made people drink faster. I saw dozens of people come into the beer tent, buy 2 beers, chug them both and be on their way...</p> also, you couldn’t just rip off your wristband and get another b/c they were marking you hand with a marker that 3 days and 3 showers later still hasn’t come off.

I had friends with handy-wipes who would drink 5, leave the tent, rip off their wristbands, wipe off the marker, and get new ones. Even still you couldn’t drink and watch music. Which, may I add, made people drink faster. I saw dozens of people come into the beer tent, buy 2 beers, chug them both and be on their way…

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672802 Anonymous Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:49:12 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672802 <p>The beer policy was a compromise by the State Park and the Goldenvoice people. The State Park wanted no beers sales what-so-ever. It's simply a liability issue. The sad reality is that if the beer policy wasn't in place, there would be a bunch of 16 year-olds getting alcohol poisoning during Jack Johnson cus one of their friend's brothers bought them all beer.</p> <p>A few notes: the sound didn't suck during KOL...KOL sucked during KOL</p> <p>The festival didn't open its gates on sunday until AFTER 2pm. Doors were supposed to open at 12 noon with the first act at 1:30pm. I had to literally sprint to Amadou & Merriam once I got inside (I got there at 1pm) and barely made it to the stage in time for their set.</p> The beer policy was a compromise by the State Park and the Goldenvoice people. The State Park wanted no beers sales what-so-ever. It’s simply a liability issue. The sad reality is that if the beer policy wasn’t in place, there would be a bunch of 16 year-olds getting alcohol poisoning during Jack Johnson cus one of their friend’s brothers bought them all beer.

A few notes: the sound didn’t suck during KOL…KOL sucked during KOL

The festival didn’t open its gates on sunday until AFTER 2pm. Doors were supposed to open at 12 noon with the first act at 1:30pm. I had to literally sprint to Amadou & Merriam once I got inside (I got there at 1pm) and barely made it to the stage in time for their set.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672812 Anonymous Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:18:22 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672812 <P>I think the big complaint is the lack of info on all the rules that were in place. I like to have some idea of what to expect (loooooong lines) when you go to a festival. It was interesting, I got there around 4 and had to wait about an hour to get in. Oh and they never checked my ticket, I just walked past a girl who looked to be about 15. Im sure Goldenvoice wanted to put on a great festival but the rules of the State Park dont really allow for it. The problem is that they never made it clear on the website. The sound was poor for KOL and better for RH. A funny thing occured when I asked a nice girl who just sold me 4 bottles of water to leave the caps on so it would be easy to carry to my friends. She looked around and said "Im sorry but I cant because it could be used to attack someone" she looked around again "they are watching us very close" she smiled and secretly handed me 1 cap.</P> I think the big complaint is the lack of info on all the rules that were in place. I like to have some idea of what to expect (loooooong lines) when you go to a festival. It was interesting, I got there around 4 and had to wait about an hour to get in. Oh and they never checked my ticket, I just walked past a girl who looked to be about 15. Im sure Goldenvoice wanted to put on a great festival but the rules of the State Park dont really allow for it. The problem is that they never made it clear on the website. The sound was poor for KOL and better for RH. A funny thing occured when I asked a nice girl who just sold me 4 bottles of water to leave the caps on so it would be easy to carry to my friends. She looked around and said “Im sorry but I cant because it could be used to attack someone” she looked around again “they are watching us very close” she smiled and secretly handed me 1 cap.

]]> By: snortin' orton http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672822 snortin' orton Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:11:27 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672822 <p>wait - i thought you were supposed to take drugs at this kind of thing...</p> wait – i thought you were supposed to take drugs at this kind of thing…

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672832 Anonymous Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:47:19 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672832 <p>@<a href="#c7157347">2ironic4u</a>:<br/> Sorry a band that 'only' (in your words) plays the Bowery isn't worthy to play a Œfestival¹. What the shit is that about...you must be too busy going to MUSE shows. </p> @2ironic4u:

Sorry a band that ‘only’ (in your words) plays the Bowery isn’t worthy to
play a Œfestival¹.
What the shit is that about…you must be too busy going to MUSE shows.

]]> By: AquaLung http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672842 AquaLung Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:17:40 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672842 <p>@<a href="#c7156649">uptonking</a>: Way to not sound like a judgmental prick! Can we hang out? You sound like so much fun!</p> @uptonking: Way to not sound like a judgmental prick! Can we hang out? You sound like so much fun!

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672852 Anonymous Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:07:23 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672852 <p>I attended the event as press, and I was so distracted by running back and forth between the three stages to take photos that I didn't even realize people weren't drinking while watching the different bands.</p> <p>The festival should just buy some Jersey farmland so people can get as drunk and high as their little hearts desire.</p> I attended the event as press, and I was so distracted by running back and forth between the three stages to take photos that I didn’t even realize people weren’t drinking while watching the different bands.

The festival should just buy some Jersey farmland so people can get as drunk and high as their little hearts desire.

]]> By: Cheap Shot http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672862 Cheap Shot Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:38:15 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672862 <p>I brought a flask.</p> I brought a flask.

]]> By: Christopher R. Weingarten http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672872 Christopher R. Weingarten Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:01:50 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672872 <p>Also: These guys are from England and who gives a shit.</p> Also: These guys are from England and who gives a shit.

]]> By: Christopher R. Weingarten http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672882 Christopher R. Weingarten Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:01:17 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672882 <p>@<a href="#c7156514">Maura Johnston</a>: "Although some anonymous commenters were getting dudes fired for being cool"</p> @Maura Johnston: “Although some anonymous commenters were getting dudes fired for being cool”

]]> By: BakerStreetSaxSolo http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672892 BakerStreetSaxSolo Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:33:25 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672892 <p>i think i can speak for all slurring voiced Britons everywhere but mostly in Britain when I say bloody hell you Americans dont know how to put on a festival if you cant drink at least twenty pints in a morning and crash out before any musics even started no but seriously penned-in special drinking areas is one thing but limits on how much you can buy its unbelievable like they are treating you like babies or animals or baby animals hic</p> i think i can speak for all slurring voiced Britons everywhere but mostly in Britain when I say bloody hell you Americans dont know how to put on a festival if you cant drink at least twenty pints in a morning and crash out before any musics even started no but seriously penned-in special drinking areas is one thing but limits on how much you can buy its unbelievable like they are treating you like babies or animals or baby animals hic

]]> By: relaxing http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672902 relaxing Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:23:39 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672902 <p>What outraged me was any fans who camped out (not literally - just getting there an hour before gates was enough) to get a spot near the main stage were rewarded with the worst sound I've ever heard at a festival.</p> <p>The subwoofers were lined up across the front of the stage and pushed to the point of distortion. Every band from the New Pornos to Radiohead was only barely audible outside of the mass of bass (and high order harmonics from the bass amps clipping - audio people will know what I mean.)</p> <p>On the plus side, some parts of Underworld's set were literally moving due to high sound pressure levels, though I feel bad for anyone who didn't bring earplugs.</p> What outraged me was any fans who camped out (not literally – just getting there an hour before gates was enough) to get a spot near the main stage were rewarded with the worst sound I’ve ever heard at a festival.

The subwoofers were lined up across the front of the stage and pushed to the point of distortion. Every band from the New Pornos to Radiohead was only barely audible outside of the mass of bass (and high order harmonics from the bass amps clipping – audio people will know what I mean.)

On the plus side, some parts of Underworld’s set were literally moving due to high sound pressure levels, though I feel bad for anyone who didn’t bring earplugs.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672912 Anonymous Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:00:23 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672912 <p>I went both nights for Radiohead and had a great time. Didn't drink any alcohol because I needed to get as close to the stage as possible. Since it's not the Warped Tour/Ozzfest, you can't count on there being a mass rush to the stage once the band hits.</p> <p>Also, how was this even a "festival"? Most of these bands only play the Bowery Ballroom when they come through NYC on their own.</p> I went both nights for Radiohead and had a great time. Didn’t drink any alcohol because I needed to get as close to the stage as possible. Since it’s not the Warped Tour/Ozzfest, you can’t count on there being a mass rush to the stage once the band hits.

Also, how was this even a “festival”? Most of these bands only play the Bowery Ballroom when they come through NYC on their own.

]]> By: pantsonfireliarliar http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672922 pantsonfireliarliar Mon, 11 Aug 2008 03:52:43 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672922 <p>Everyone said it before but it was more than confirmed this weekend: APW wouldn't exist without Radiohead.</p> Everyone said it before but it was more than confirmed this weekend: APW wouldn’t exist without Radiohead.

]]> By: BigRicks http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672932 BigRicks Mon, 11 Aug 2008 03:50:22 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672932 <p>@<a href="#c7156649">uptonking</a>: Utilizing the old one beer per hour test, I think it's safe to say that a beer every 2 hours isn't nearly enough to get someone (with any experience drinking alcohol) drunk. Especially at a hot festival, where everything you drink is probably coming out as sweat anyway.</p> <p>@<a href="#c7156554">RaptorAvatar</a>: They should just subsidize the potential loss from a liability issue by selling more alcohol!</p> @uptonking: Utilizing the old one beer per hour test, I think it’s safe to say that a beer every 2 hours isn’t nearly enough to get someone (with any experience drinking alcohol) drunk. Especially at a hot festival, where everything you drink is probably coming out as sweat anyway.

@RaptorAvatar: They should just subsidize the potential loss from a liability issue by selling more alcohol!

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/400187/all-points-west-come-for-radiohead-stay-for-the-chance-to-complain-about-the-beer-policies/comment-page-1#comment-672942 Anonymous Mon, 11 Aug 2008 03:47:57 +0000 http://e9168af4bc5b8e1f85d141a6eb4e5837#comment-672942 <p>It's really not about the quantity; it's about being TOLD how much you were allowed to drink. It's about NOT having a choice to drink. It's about NOT being able to watch a band and have a drink. It's also about NOT being told that this was the case and taking people's money without giving them the full details. I think this is a pretty large departure from any other festival I have ever been to anywhere in the world and not one word was said about it. They did however take the time to list out 50 fing things you couldn't do... I hope the organizers made lots and lots of money and feel very happy with themselves for duping the public, Karma as they say is a bitch... "IMPORTANT NOTICE: The information in this email (and any attachments hereto) is confidential and may be protected by legal privileges and work product immunities. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use or disseminate the information. Receipt by anyone other than the intended recipient is not a waiver of any attorney-client or work product privilege. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify me by "Reply" command and permanently delete the original and any copies or printouts thereof. Although this email and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to insure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Transatlantic Reinsurance Company or its subsidiaries or affiliates either jointly or severally, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use." </p> It’s really not about the quantity; it’s about being TOLD how much you
were allowed to drink.

It’s about NOT having a choice to drink.

It’s about NOT being able to watch a band and have a drink.

It’s also about NOT being told that this was the case and taking
people’s money without giving them the full details.

I think this is a pretty large departure from any other festival I have
ever been to anywhere in the world and not one word was said about it.
They did however take the time to list out

50 fing things you couldn’t do…

I hope the organizers made lots and lots of money and feel very happy
with themselves for duping the public, Karma as they say is a bitch…

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