Comments on: Is The Age Of Sexless Pop Music Here? (And Was It Inevitable?) http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable Music News, Reviews, and Gossip on Idolator.com Sat, 26 May 2012 18:17:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: elvissinatra http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701032 elvissinatra Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:49:04 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701032 <P>@<A href="http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable#c7675778">revmatty</A>: And don't forget about all the copies that will sell when one of these bastions of purity ends up actually impregnating someone/getting pregnant. Countdown until the inevitable JoBro shotgun wedding...</P> @revmatty: And don’t forget about all the copies that will sell when one of these bastions of purity ends up actually impregnating someone/getting pregnant. Countdown until the inevitable JoBro shotgun wedding…

]]> By: ObtuseIntolerant http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701042 ObtuseIntolerant Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:17:35 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701042 <p>@<a href="#c7669622">moomintroll</a>: I still think someone should have made fun of how no one seemed to be wearing PANTS - now THAT was the one causing the hardest laughter in the living room where I was hanging with my sisters.</p> @moomintroll: I still think someone should have made fun of how no one seemed to be wearing PANTS – now THAT was the one causing the hardest laughter in the living room where I was hanging with my sisters.

]]> By: janine http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701122 janine Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:46:43 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701122 <p>@<a href="#c7664786">NeverEnough</a>: From what I understand of the Jonas Bros' anatomy, yes.</p> @NeverEnough: From what I understand of the Jonas Bros’ anatomy, yes.

]]> By: NeverEnough http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701132 NeverEnough Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:08:36 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701132 <p>@<a href="#c7661872">janine</a>: But will it be anatomically correct? That's important.</p> @janine: But will it be anatomically correct? That’s important.

]]> By: revmatty http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701052 revmatty Tue, 09 Sep 2008 07:51:48 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701052 <p>Pop music goes through these phases every few years where some artist or group of artists talks a lot about their purity issues, often with a whole lot of encouragement from the mainstream press who knows they can sell a whole lot of copies of Newsweek by making up a trend that will appeal to concerned parents (both positive and negative trends; meth is another of these fake trends). I remember a round of this in the late 80's when I was in high school, and recall that that's how Brit-brit broke onto the scene as well. And look how well that turned out.</p> Pop music goes through these phases every few years where some artist or group of artists talks a lot about their purity issues, often with a whole lot of encouragement from the mainstream press who knows they can sell a whole lot of copies of Newsweek by making up a trend that will appeal to concerned parents (both positive and negative trends; meth is another of these fake trends). I remember a round of this in the late 80′s when I was in high school, and recall that that’s how Brit-brit broke onto the scene as well. And look how well that turned out.

]]> By: Nunya B http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701142 Nunya B Tue, 09 Sep 2008 06:05:47 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701142 <p>@<a href="#c7660663">ObtuseIntolerant</a>: It did all feel kind of like the part in "She's All That" where she learns it was ALL! A! BET!, didn't it? For people younger than I am they sure did handle themselves better than I could've.</p> @ObtuseIntolerant: It did all feel kind of like the part in “She’s All That” where she learns it was ALL! A! BET!, didn’t it? For people younger than I am they sure did handle themselves better than I could’ve.

]]> By: moomintroll http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701062 moomintroll Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:13:37 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701062 <p>If you give a really funny comedian with a reputation for sexual promiscuity, and no self censoring sensibilities the task of hosting a lame "music" video awards show where 99% of the attendees/ performers are asexual (pshhaw) Disney created teen stars wearing promise rings what do you expect?<br> Longest sentence ever.<br> I feel a bit like MTV set Russel Brand up. They knew what his comedy was about, they also knew that by including the Jonas Bros. that most of the viewership would be kids watching with their uptight parents. Russell had no chance.<br> I thought he was really funny, I mean what else was he gonna do? There was literally nothing else going on!<br> Now Russell has been reduced to Today show stories on the benefits of promise rings in which they don't even mention his name but just call him "the host".</p> If you give a really funny comedian with a reputation for sexual promiscuity, and no self censoring sensibilities the task of hosting a lame “music” video awards show where 99% of the attendees/ performers are asexual (pshhaw) Disney created teen stars wearing promise rings what do you expect?
Longest sentence ever.
I feel a bit like MTV set Russel Brand up. They knew what his comedy was about, they also knew that by including the Jonas Bros. that most of the viewership would be kids watching with their uptight parents. Russell had no chance.
I thought he was really funny, I mean what else was he gonna do? There was literally nothing else going on!
Now Russell has been reduced to Today show stories on the benefits of promise rings in which they don’t even mention his name but just call him “the host”.

]]> By: Reidicus http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701152 Reidicus Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:11:04 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701152 <p>@<a href="#c7662036">janine</a>: Winner.</p> <p>Finally, if I may get personal for a sec, while we can take (likely deserved) potshots at the messenger and debate the silly ritual of promise rings and whatnot, speaking as the dad of a five year old girl, the increasing pornification / oversexualization of our culture is seriously freaking me out.</p> <p>And I think few of you may disagree when I say it wouldn't hurt to dial it back five or 10 notches. For starters, it might make "sexy" actually <i>mean</i> something when applied to music if it's a bit rarer and more taboo. (Can you imagine the reaction of the first people to hear "Put A Little Sugar In My Bowl"? I'll bet there were goosebumps for <i>days</i>.)</p> <p>And more importantly, while I'm doing my level best to raise my daughter to make smart choices, I'd like just a little bit of help from the broader culture to ensure that I'm not a premature grandfather in 10 years or so. Is that too much to ask?</p> @janine: Winner.

Finally, if I may get personal for a sec, while we can take (likely deserved) potshots at the messenger and debate the silly ritual of promise rings and whatnot, speaking as the dad of a five year old girl, the increasing pornification / oversexualization of our culture is seriously freaking me out.

And I think few of you may disagree when I say it wouldn’t hurt to dial it back five or 10 notches. For starters, it might make “sexy” actually mean something when applied to music if it’s a bit rarer and more taboo. (Can you imagine the reaction of the first people to hear “Put A Little Sugar In My Bowl”? I’ll bet there were goosebumps for days.)

And more importantly, while I’m doing my level best to raise my daughter to make smart choices, I’d like just a little bit of help from the broader culture to ensure that I’m not a premature grandfather in 10 years or so. Is that too much to ask?

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701072 Anonymous Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:52:07 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701072 <p>Sexless pop music is hardly new. Pat Boone was far more palatable to the communications industry than the amped-up Little Richard.</p> Sexless pop music is hardly new. Pat Boone was far more palatable to the communications industry than the amped-up Little Richard.

]]> By: RaptorAvatar http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701082 RaptorAvatar Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:51:48 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701082 <P>At what point does sex that's been stripped down to pink nuts and bolts shellaced in crisco by the consumer industrial complex become every bit as insidious and empty as Sparks' religious bullshit? Not that the enemy here is sex. The enemy is spectacle and dogma transforming something awesome into either industrialized guilt for people too "moral" to think or another bovine glitter parade for the hoopleheads. Both sides need to back the fuck down and maybe write about people instead of... Ah fuck it. It's religion/industry, they'll do whatever it takes to keep the numbers up. JoBro cockrings by 2010.</P> <P>@<A href="http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable#c7656871">Nunya B</A>: Well put. However, I'd probably be pumped if someone I agreed with did the same thing.</P> At what point does sex that’s been stripped down to pink nuts and bolts shellaced in crisco by the consumer industrial complex become every bit as insidious and empty as Sparks’ religious bullshit? Not that the enemy here is sex. The enemy is spectacle and dogma transforming something awesome into either industrialized guilt for people too “moral” to think or another bovine glitter parade for the hoopleheads. Both sides need to back the fuck down and maybe write about people instead of… Ah fuck it. It’s religion/industry, they’ll do whatever it takes to keep the numbers up. JoBro cockrings by 2010.

@Nunya B: Well put. However, I’d probably be pumped if someone I agreed with did the same thing.

]]> By: janine http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701162 janine Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:00:38 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701162 <p>@<a href="#c7661872">janine</a>: Or just see is Adrian Zmed has sons...<br> <a name="youtube:OD03gLqY148"></a></p> @janine: Or just see is Adrian Zmed has sons…

]]> By: ObtuseIntolerant http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701172 ObtuseIntolerant Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:56:39 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701172 <p>@<a href="#c7661147">NeverEnough</a>: They were adorable - and Michelle Obama raising the roof to their concert and fangirling over them was pretty unbeatable.</p> @NeverEnough: They were adorable – and Michelle Obama raising the roof to their concert and fangirling over them was pretty unbeatable.

]]> By: mike a http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701092 mike a Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:56:37 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701092 <p>@<a href="#c7663005">Reidicus</a>: You're not alone. I have two daughters (age 2 and 4), and while we do expose them to pop culture, we'd like to keep them away from the sex stuff as much as possible. We are trying to give them the tools to make smart choices, but just because I play my kids <i>Rubber Soul</i> and limit their TV viewing to Noggin and Sprout doesn't mean they won't be seduced by the nastier stuff down the line. If a promise ring helps keep their heads on the straight and narrow through the teen years, then I say bring it on, no matter how corny.</p> @Reidicus: You’re not alone. I have two daughters (age 2 and 4), and while we do expose them to pop culture, we’d like to keep them away from the sex stuff as much as possible. We are trying to give them the tools to make smart choices, but just because I play my kids Rubber Soul and limit their TV viewing to Noggin and Sprout doesn’t mean they won’t be seduced by the nastier stuff down the line. If a promise ring helps keep their heads on the straight and narrow through the teen years, then I say bring it on, no matter how corny.

]]> By: janine http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701182 janine Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:50:08 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701182 <p>I think we're losing the very important point that Jordan Sparks need to shut the hell up. Whatever the topic.</p> <p>@<a href="#c7661147">NeverEnough</a>: Why don't you make your own Jonas Brother? Buy yourself a ball of Fresh Mozzarella and stick some Groucho Marx eyebrows on it.</p> I think we’re losing the very important point that Jordan Sparks need to shut the hell up. Whatever the topic.

@NeverEnough: Why don’t you make your own Jonas Brother? Buy yourself a ball of Fresh Mozzarella and stick some Groucho Marx eyebrows on it.

]]> By: Mrs. Stephen Fry http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701102 Mrs. Stephen Fry Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:35:57 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701102 <p>She's a creepy little kid, and if the puritanical ring-wearing virgins didn't make such an issue of it, it wouldn't be fodder for comedians.</p> <p>I thought Russell was hilarious, given what he had to work with.</p> She’s a creepy little kid, and if the puritanical ring-wearing virgins didn’t make such an issue of it, it wouldn’t be fodder for comedians.

I thought Russell was hilarious, given what he had to work with.

]]> By: NeverEnough http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701192 NeverEnough Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:03:41 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701192 <p>@<a href="#c7660663">ObtuseIntolerant</a>: It would be all good but I'm *stops to count on fingers* 15 years older than him. Jesus Christ, when did I become a child predator? I think Chris Hansen is at my door...</p> <p>(and did you see them on Ellen today?)</p> @ObtuseIntolerant: It would be all good but I’m *stops to count on fingers* 15 years older than him. Jesus Christ, when did I become a child predator? I think Chris Hansen is at my door…

(and did you see them on Ellen today?)

]]> By: ObtuseIntolerant http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701202 ObtuseIntolerant Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:32:37 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701202 <p>So you know, there is an angry letter writing campaign going straight to the top of Viacom...LOL...I will not be participating, but...</p> <p>From the perspective of a Jonas Brothers fan...it just felt like a bit of a Dogfight situation. MTV crapped on them for ages...then MTV suddenly got really nice and sweet to them in the early summer in order to lure them to the Big Event, and once they settled in, everyone was basically pointing and laughing that they were stupid enough to think they would have actually gotten an award.</p> <p>@<a href="#c7658725">NeverEnough</a>: Oh and Joe Jonas' pre-emptory response to the whole thing (Brand basically gave away hints to the "script" ahead of time...which turned out to be all he had) when asked by Scary Spice how he would treat Brand said he would "...give him a hug and love. Maybe he didn't get enough as a child? He seems...hurt."</p> <p>Yeah, it's a little sanctimonious, but still - bringin' the LOLs.</p> <p>P.S. NeverEnough he's 19, it's all good. Except that Taylor Swift will stomp you.</p> So you know, there is an angry letter writing campaign going straight to the top of Viacom…LOL…I will not be participating, but…

From the perspective of a Jonas Brothers fan…it just felt like a bit of a Dogfight situation. MTV crapped on them for ages…then MTV suddenly got really nice and sweet to them in the early summer in order to lure them to the Big Event, and once they settled in, everyone was basically pointing and laughing that they were stupid enough to think they would have actually gotten an award.

@NeverEnough: Oh and Joe Jonas’ pre-emptory response to the whole thing (Brand basically gave away hints to the “script” ahead of time…which turned out to be all he had) when asked by Scary Spice how he would treat Brand said he would “…give him a hug and love. Maybe he didn’t get enough as a child? He seems…hurt.”

Yeah, it’s a little sanctimonious, but still – bringin’ the LOLs.

P.S. NeverEnough he’s 19, it’s all good. Except that Taylor Swift will stomp you.

]]> By: ObtuseIntolerant http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701212 ObtuseIntolerant Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:23:46 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701212 <p>@<a href="#c7655867">egg cream</a>: @<a href="#c7657016">Audif Jackson Winters III</a>: Actually, it's really NOT. They never announced it. They've had the rings for many years, when they were barely in the public eye. They answer questions when asked. Esquire, I believe, "broke" the story last fall, and then there were suddenly stories quoting them dispersed to every rag all kinds of hullabaloo, and they continued to answer the questions and then get criticized for answering them.</p> <p>It's a double/triple standard. The custom happens to exist, and have paraphernalia...what if it was a girl group wearing hijabs...?</p> <p>I am not really religious, but I am actually tolerant, and I have white Evangelical and black Pentecostal relatives and I just think "enlightened" people need to STFU with anti-Christian BS and maybe try acting more, well...enlightened.</p> <p>If Obama loses I am blaming Russell Brand (ok,psych).</p> @egg cream: @Audif Jackson Winters III: Actually, it’s really NOT. They never announced it. They’ve had the rings for many years, when they were barely in the public eye. They answer questions when asked. Esquire, I believe, “broke” the story last fall, and then there were suddenly stories quoting them dispersed to every rag all kinds of hullabaloo, and they continued to answer the questions and then get criticized for answering them.

It’s a double/triple standard. The custom happens to exist, and have paraphernalia…what if it was a girl group wearing hijabs…?

I am not really religious, but I am actually tolerant, and I have white Evangelical and black Pentecostal relatives and I just think “enlightened” people need to STFU with anti-Christian BS and maybe try acting more, well…enlightened.

If Obama loses I am blaming Russell Brand (ok,psych).

]]> By: LAKingsin2009 http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701222 LAKingsin2009 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:20:37 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701222 <P>I'm not pro-promise ring but I guess I don't see anything wrong with someone defending a decision to go that route. Granted the person may not actually take this path in the end, and sex education courses need to do more than preach abstinence, but if this is so irratating, why doesn't everyone jump on Ian MacKaye for his drug stance?</P> <P>Granted I didn't watch the VMA's so perhaps I'm missing some of the context here.</P> I’m not pro-promise ring but I guess I don’t see anything wrong with someone defending a decision to go that route. Granted the person may not actually take this path in the end, and sex education courses need to do more than preach abstinence, but if this is so irratating, why doesn’t everyone jump on Ian MacKaye for his drug stance?

Granted I didn’t watch the VMA’s so perhaps I’m missing some of the context here.

]]> By: NeverEnough http://idolator.com/401012/is-the-age-of-sexless-pop-music-here-and-was-it-inevitable/comment-page-1#comment-701112 NeverEnough Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:01:44 +0000 http://bf74fc4ae04139b20ed7dcc8870cead5#comment-701112 <p>@<a href="#c7665283">janine</a>: <i>Awesome.</i></p> @janine: Awesome.

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