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	<title>Comments on: Toppling &#8216;The Wall&#8217;: The Farce Of Double-Counting In The RIAA&#8217;s All-Time Platinum List</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White Album was priced at about $12 in  1968 ,so it was certainly worth to be counted twice. 
Also unlike artists of 70s onwards who were crazy for album sales ,Beatles never promoted their albums after &#039;66 or even spaced their albums. Also singles were not re released on studio albums
brooks may have done for certification but
platinum disc didnt came up 6 years after beatles break up .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White Album was priced at about $12 in  1968 ,so it was certainly worth to be counted twice.<br />
Also unlike artists of 70s onwards who were crazy for album sales ,Beatles never promoted their albums after &#8217;66 or even spaced their albums. Also singles were not re released on studio albums<br />
brooks may have done for certification but<br />
platinum disc didnt came up 6 years after beatles break up .</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Platinum award was introduced in 1976.
 Eagles greatest hits was first album to get platinum .
So are the sales of albums like Abbey Road , led zeppalin after 1976?
If so it could explain no 60s artist making the list aside from Beatles. No Stones , Doors , Who ,or 50s elvis , sinatra.
This issue is more important than double crap sales .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Platinum award was introduced in 1976.<br />
 Eagles greatest hits was first album to get platinum .<br />
So are the sales of albums like Abbey Road , led zeppalin after 1976?<br />
If so it could explain no 60s artist making the list aside from Beatles. No Stones , Doors , Who ,or 50s elvis , sinatra.<br />
This issue is more important than double crap sales .</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually a Double Album requires to exceed 100 minutes to be counted twice, White Album is 94 minutes so Its Infact a 19 Million seller . Also no Pre-Sgt. Pepper had different us,uk tracklisting so their sales are divided .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually a Double Album requires to exceed 100 minutes to be counted twice, White Album is 94 minutes so Its Infact a 19 Million seller . Also no Pre-Sgt. Pepper had different us,uk tracklisting so their sales are divided .</p>
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		<title>By: omega23</title>
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		<dc:creator>omega23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-711082&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chris Molanphy&lt;/a&gt;:   What got me here was trying to find the last time Prince&#039;s &quot;Purple Rain&quot; received certification.  I feel like it has been sitting at 13 million as long as I&#039;ve been tracking album sales.  It must be higher by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-711082" rel="nofollow">Chris Molanphy</a>:   What got me here was trying to find the last time Prince&#8217;s &#8220;Purple Rain&#8221; received certification.  I feel like it has been sitting at 13 million as long as I&#8217;ve been tracking album sales.  It must be higher by now.</p>
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		<title>By: omega23</title>
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		<dc:creator>omega23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-711082&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chris Molanphy&lt;/a&gt;:    I totally agree with Chris M., and thank you Chris for putting this out there.  As to the guy who said &quot;who cares,&quot; how did you get here?  You navigated your way to this page, read the thread, added a comment, and yet you still failed to realize this is a talking point about the most successful, biggest-selling albums in the history of the most successful country (in history).  Anyhow, my thoughts on the revised list are that it doesn&#039;t have this strange emergence of titles that pop-up simply b/c of a policy-change that is nothing more than a loophole to artists such as Garth Brooks who, as mentioned above, milked the policy and probably spotlighted how it will eventually have to be replaced.  Let&#039;s hope so.  And when looking at those titles I can&#039;t recall them ever having the sustained impact of titles like &quot;Rumours&quot; or Shania Twain&#039;s &quot;Come On Over.&quot;  These were industry-defining statements  that often have one thing in common:  nobody could have ever predicted their widespread, massive international success.   But something tells me that the Garth Brooks camp was well aware of the RIAA doulbe-counting policy that so benefitted his &quot;Double Live.&quot;  And as for Use Your Illusion I &amp; II, this was a case where both cd&#039;s actually cost the price of:  two albums!  This is never the case with these double-discs, and apparently was not the case before my time either.  The week that UYI I &amp; II were released they both sold neighboorhood 700K each, prob over 1.5M combined.  If it were sold as a double-disc that would stand as one of the biggest weeks ever for an album and would have probably been #1 at the time, even though it would have likely included only around 700K-800K individual buyers.  These are all asterisk-noted sales figures, to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-711082" rel="nofollow">Chris Molanphy</a>:    I totally agree with Chris M., and thank you Chris for putting this out there.  As to the guy who said &#8220;who cares,&#8221; how did you get here?  You navigated your way to this page, read the thread, added a comment, and yet you still failed to realize this is a talking point about the most successful, biggest-selling albums in the history of the most successful country (in history).  Anyhow, my thoughts on the revised list are that it doesn&#8217;t have this strange emergence of titles that pop-up simply b/c of a policy-change that is nothing more than a loophole to artists such as Garth Brooks who, as mentioned above, milked the policy and probably spotlighted how it will eventually have to be replaced.  Let&#8217;s hope so.  And when looking at those titles I can&#8217;t recall them ever having the sustained impact of titles like &#8220;Rumours&#8221; or Shania Twain&#8217;s &#8220;Come On Over.&#8221;  These were industry-defining statements  that often have one thing in common:  nobody could have ever predicted their widespread, massive international success.   But something tells me that the Garth Brooks camp was well aware of the RIAA doulbe-counting policy that so benefitted his &#8220;Double Live.&#8221;  And as for Use Your Illusion I &amp; II, this was a case where both cd&#8217;s actually cost the price of:  two albums!  This is never the case with these double-discs, and apparently was not the case before my time either.  The week that UYI I &amp; II were released they both sold neighboorhood 700K each, prob over 1.5M combined.  If it were sold as a double-disc that would stand as one of the biggest weeks ever for an album and would have probably been #1 at the time, even though it would have likely included only around 700K-800K individual buyers.  These are all asterisk-noted sales figures, to me.</p>
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		<title>By: DocStrange</title>
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		<dc:creator>DocStrange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/5051293/toppling-the-wall-the-farce-of-double+counting-in-the-riaas-all+time-platinum-list#c7834519&quot;&gt;Chris Molanphy&lt;/A&gt;: Not only that, as much as I love &lt;I&gt;Dark Side&lt;/I&gt; and believe it is culturally important, sonically innovative and should easily be your first Floyd purchase (it definitely shouldn&#039;t be that Greatest Hits album that Capitol and/or Columbia put out a few years ago. I refuse to recognize its existance for excluding &quot;Free Four&quot;), it&#039;s not the band&#039;s best album (&lt;I&gt;Wish You Were Here&lt;/I&gt; is).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I&#039;ll also mention that I &lt;I&gt;do&lt;/I&gt; love &lt;I&gt;The Wall&lt;/I&gt; (notably &quot;Hey You&quot;, &quot;Run Like Hell&quot; and &quot;Comfortably Numb&quot;), but no one remembers it being so popular that it&#039;s allegedly the fourth biggest selling album of all time. This is why I believe that &lt;I&gt;Dark Side&lt;/I&gt; has to have easily sold more copies (it was on the chart non-stop from 1973 until 1988 and there&#039;s an urban legend that there&#039;s a record pressing plant in Germany thats sole purpose is to produce copies of the album. I don&#039;t know how long &lt;I&gt;The Wall&lt;/I&gt; was on, but it sure didn&#039;t sell as much, hence why I believe it only sold as half as many copies as it the RIAA does)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/5051293/toppling-the-wall-the-farce-of-double+counting-in-the-riaas-all+time-platinum-list#c7834519">Chris Molanphy</a>: Not only that, as much as I love <i>Dark Side</i> and believe it is culturally important, sonically innovative and should easily be your first Floyd purchase (it definitely shouldn&#8217;t be that Greatest Hits album that Capitol and/or Columbia put out a few years ago. I refuse to recognize its existance for excluding &#8220;Free Four&#8221;), it&#8217;s not the band&#8217;s best album (<i>Wish You Were Here</i> is).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll also mention that I <i>do</i> love <i>The Wall</i> (notably &#8220;Hey You&#8221;, &#8220;Run Like Hell&#8221; and &#8220;Comfortably Numb&#8221;), but no one remembers it being so popular that it&#8217;s allegedly the fourth biggest selling album of all time. This is why I believe that <i>Dark Side</i> has to have easily sold more copies (it was on the chart non-stop from 1973 until 1988 and there&#8217;s an urban legend that there&#8217;s a record pressing plant in Germany thats sole purpose is to produce copies of the album. I don&#8217;t know how long <i>The Wall</i> was on, but it sure didn&#8217;t sell as much, hence why I believe it only sold as half as many copies as it the RIAA does)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Molanphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Molanphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c7832292&quot;&gt;DocStrange&lt;/a&gt;: Thank you for chiming in. You and I are on opposite sides of the aisle on Floyd (barring a handful of tracks, I mostly can&#039;t stand &#039;em), but I&#039;m glad you agree with me that it&#039;s a perversion of history to call the record that happens to be their big double-album their best-seller. You feel the same way about Floyd and &lt;i&gt;The Wall&lt;/i&gt; that I feel about the Beatles and the White Album.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(And BTW, you actually underestimate &lt;i&gt;Dark Side&lt;/i&gt; a bit -- it doesn&#039;t have &quot;pretty good sales to this day,&quot; it has &lt;i&gt;insane&lt;/i&gt; weekly sales for a record that&#039;s that old. A &lt;i&gt;Billboard&lt;/i&gt; feature a couple of years ago about the album&#039;s longevity pointed out that at certain points in recent years it&#039;s sold as much as 10,000 copies a week. I mean, that&#039;s better than the &lt;i&gt;entire bottom half of a typical week&#039;s Billboard album chart&lt;/i&gt;. Crazy. I may not like Floyd, but: damn, props.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Re: Hootie -- what&#039;s most fun about the list above (both RIAA-corrupt and my revision) is how it throws together albums that have sold steadily over time with one- to two-year flashes in the pan. I&#039;d say Hootie is just about the flashiest, whereas Meat Loaf&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Bat Out of Hell&lt;/i&gt; is the tortoise--never rose higher than No. 14, but it sells a couple hundred thousand a year, like clockwork.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7832292">DocStrange</a>: Thank you for chiming in. You and I are on opposite sides of the aisle on Floyd (barring a handful of tracks, I mostly can&#8217;t stand &#8216;em), but I&#8217;m glad you agree with me that it&#8217;s a perversion of history to call the record that happens to be their big double-album their best-seller. You feel the same way about Floyd and <i>The Wall</i> that I feel about the Beatles and the White Album.</p>
<p>(And BTW, you actually underestimate <i>Dark Side</i> a bit &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t have &#8220;pretty good sales to this day,&#8221; it has <i>insane</i> weekly sales for a record that&#8217;s that old. A <i>Billboard</i> feature a couple of years ago about the album&#8217;s longevity pointed out that at certain points in recent years it&#8217;s sold as much as 10,000 copies a week. I mean, that&#8217;s better than the <i>entire bottom half of a typical week&#8217;s Billboard album chart</i>. Crazy. I may not like Floyd, but: damn, props.)</p>
<p>Re: Hootie &#8212; what&#8217;s most fun about the list above (both RIAA-corrupt and my revision) is how it throws together albums that have sold steadily over time with one- to two-year flashes in the pan. I&#8217;d say Hootie is just about the flashiest, whereas Meat Loaf&#8217;s <i>Bat Out of Hell</i> is the tortoise&#8211;never rose higher than No. 14, but it sells a couple hundred thousand a year, like clockwork.</p>
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		<title>By: CarsmileSteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarsmileSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;mmmmmmmmm, lovely stats. i ♥ stuff like this.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmmmmmmmm, lovely stats. i ♥ stuff like this.</p>
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		<title>By: DocStrange</title>
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		<dc:creator>DocStrange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Again, as a Pink Floyd fanboy (who was devastated at the loss of Rick Wright as well), the whole &quot;&lt;i&gt;The Wall&lt;/i&gt; sold 25 million copies&quot; thing always pisses me off too. It really doesn&#039;t matter since &lt;i&gt;Dark Side of the Moon&lt;/i&gt; (a much better album which still has pretty good sales to this day) sold more copies around the world if you count &lt;i&gt;The Wall&lt;/i&gt; as a double album or not.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On a side note, it is truly depressing that Hootie &amp; The Blowfish sold that many albums. What were we thinking?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, as a Pink Floyd fanboy (who was devastated at the loss of Rick Wright as well), the whole &#8220;<i>The Wall</i> sold 25 million copies&#8221; thing always pisses me off too. It really doesn&#8217;t matter since <i>Dark Side of the Moon</i> (a much better album which still has pretty good sales to this day) sold more copies around the world if you count <i>The Wall</i> as a double album or not.</p>
<p>On a side note, it is truly depressing that Hootie &amp; The Blowfish sold that many albums. What were we thinking?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Poehler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Poehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The entire point of the system is to generate BS promotional statistics, just like the Grammys, the top album sales charts, etc. and it&#039;s all rotten with corruption from top to bottom, so while I agree the stats on multiple-disc albums are bullshit, it&#039;s only the tip of the iceberg.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire point of the system is to generate BS promotional statistics, just like the Grammys, the top album sales charts, etc. and it&#8217;s all rotten with corruption from top to bottom, so while I agree the stats on multiple-disc albums are bullshit, it&#8217;s only the tip of the iceberg.</p>
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		<title>By: moulty</title>
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		<dc:creator>moulty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Buy more copies of &lt;i&gt;Purple Rain&lt;/i&gt; people!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: How do I say this ... THROWDINI!</title>
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		<dc:creator>How do I say this ... THROWDINI!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/5051293/toppling-the-wall-the-farce-of-double+counting-in-the-riaas-all+time-platinum-list#c7821803&quot;&gt;Chris Molanphy&lt;/A&gt;: Yeah, I can see that people would want Michael to be #1, even given all of his, let&#039;s say, issues. For me, besides being a big Michael fan, its because I always consider Thriller to be the &quot;true&quot; best selling album because the Eagles album is a Greatest Hits compilation, which seems like cheating to me. &lt;I&gt;Of course&lt;/I&gt;, its easier to sell more copies of an album that&#039;s &lt;I&gt;all&lt;/I&gt; hits. (Not that Thriller wasn&#039;t mostly hits, but you know what I mean.)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/5051293/toppling-the-wall-the-farce-of-double+counting-in-the-riaas-all+time-platinum-list#c7821803">Chris Molanphy</a>: Yeah, I can see that people would want Michael to be #1, even given all of his, let&#8217;s say, issues. For me, besides being a big Michael fan, its because I always consider Thriller to be the &#8220;true&#8221; best selling album because the Eagles album is a Greatest Hits compilation, which seems like cheating to me. <i>Of course</i>, its easier to sell more copies of an album that&#8217;s <i>all</i> hits. (Not that Thriller wasn&#8217;t mostly hits, but you know what I mean.)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Molanphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Molanphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c7821440&quot;&gt;Elijah-M&lt;/a&gt;: Whoops, you&#039;re right -- my bad. According to Wikipedia, it&#039;s 99 minutes long! Damn!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7821440">Elijah-M</a>: Whoops, you&#8217;re right &#8212; my bad. According to Wikipedia, it&#8217;s 99 minutes long! Damn!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Molanphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Molanphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c7821545&quot;&gt;How do I say this ... THROWDINI!&lt;/a&gt;: At least according to &lt;i&gt;Billboard&lt;/i&gt; and SoundScan, the &lt;i&gt;Thriller&lt;/i&gt; reissue counts toward its lifetime total. (Which is why &lt;i&gt;Billboard&lt;/i&gt; tracked it earlier this year on the catalog chart, not the main chart.) Whether the RIAA will pool all the sales and boost &lt;i&gt;Thriller&lt;/i&gt;&#039;s certification, I don&#039;t know -- but I&#039;ll bet Sony checked this &lt;i&gt;very carefully&lt;/i&gt; before they proceeded with the reissue. &lt;b&gt;Everybody&lt;/b&gt; (except Warner/Elektra, natch) wants Michael to retake the crown from the Eagles.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c7821607&quot;&gt;Elijah-M&lt;/a&gt;: Good point. Not sure how the RIAA squares pre- and post-&#039;87 sales of albums with the same title, like &lt;i&gt;Rubber Soul&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Revolver&lt;/i&gt;; I&#039;ll bet they pool them all, if they differ by four or fewer tracks. Whereas I bet the vastly different &lt;i&gt;Hard Day&#039;s Night&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Help!&lt;/i&gt; soundtracks are tracked differently. That&#039;s just an educated guess on my part, however.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7821545">How do I say this &#8230; THROWDINI!</a>: At least according to <i>Billboard</i> and SoundScan, the <i>Thriller</i> reissue counts toward its lifetime total. (Which is why <i>Billboard</i> tracked it earlier this year on the catalog chart, not the main chart.) Whether the RIAA will pool all the sales and boost <i>Thriller</i>&#8216;s certification, I don&#8217;t know &#8212; but I&#8217;ll bet Sony checked this <i>very carefully</i> before they proceeded with the reissue. <b>Everybody</b> (except Warner/Elektra, natch) wants Michael to retake the crown from the Eagles.</p>
<p>@<a href="#c7821607">Elijah-M</a>: Good point. Not sure how the RIAA squares pre- and post-&#8217;87 sales of albums with the same title, like <i>Rubber Soul</i> and <i>Revolver</i>; I&#8217;ll bet they pool them all, if they differ by four or fewer tracks. Whereas I bet the vastly different <i>Hard Day&#8217;s Night</i> and <i>Help!</i> soundtracks are tracked differently. That&#8217;s just an educated guess on my part, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Elijah-M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elijah-M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would imagine one reason the Beatles don&#039;t appear on that list more often is that up until 1987, the albums being counted were the American releases. When their catalog was released on CD, everything pre-Rubber Soul was essentially an entirely new title, and was counted as such.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would imagine one reason the Beatles don&#8217;t appear on that list more often is that up until 1987, the albums being counted were the American releases. When their catalog was released on CD, everything pre-Rubber Soul was essentially an entirely new title, and was counted as such.</p>
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		<title>By: How do I say this ... THROWDINI!</title>
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		<dc:creator>How do I say this ... THROWDINI!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;Did the Thriller 25th Anniversary reissue, with the accompanying second disc of remixes, impact this in any way, or not really because 98% of the Thriller sales were of the original album?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the Thriller 25th Anniversary reissue, with the accompanying second disc of remixes, impact this in any way, or not really because 98% of the Thriller sales were of the original album?</p>
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		<title>By: Elijah-M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elijah-M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c7820980&quot;&gt;Chris Molanphy&lt;/a&gt;: 1962-66 is indeed about an hour long, but if I remember correctly, 1967-70 is too long to fit onto a 90 minute cassette.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7820980">Chris Molanphy</a>: 1962-66 is indeed about an hour long, but if I remember correctly, 1967-70 is too long to fit onto a 90 minute cassette.</p>
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		<title>By: Whigged</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whigged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c7820980&quot;&gt;Chris Molanphy&lt;/a&gt;: Yeah, I see your point, especially with them not being split up in the case of Joel and the Red and Blue CDs.  And don&#039;t get me wrong, I am not defending the RIAA in the least - because they suck, like the greedy labels [try to] suck money from our pockets.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7820980">Chris Molanphy</a>: Yeah, I see your point, especially with them not being split up in the case of Joel and the Red and Blue CDs.  And don&#8217;t get me wrong, I am not defending the RIAA in the least &#8211; because they suck, like the greedy labels [try to] suck money from our pockets.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Molanphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Molanphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c7820412&quot;&gt;Whigged&lt;/a&gt;: Okay, maybe some of language about the evil of this method is slightly overheated. BUT...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What if I only like Billy Joel&#039;s career in the &#039;70s and don&#039;t want his &#039;80s hits? Can I buy &lt;i&gt;Greatest Hits, Volume I&lt;/i&gt;? Nope, not an option. Your choices are $20-plus for the double-set, or nothing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How do we count sales of the Stones&#039; &lt;i&gt;Exile on Main Street&lt;/i&gt; or Elton John&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Goodbye Yellow Brick Road&lt;/i&gt;, now that they&#039;re each sold as single discs? For that matter, why weren&#039;t the Beatles&#039; &quot;red&quot; and &quot;blue&quot; greatest-hits sets, each about an hour in length, reissued as single CDs by Capitol in the early &#039;90s? Answer: greed on EMI&#039;s part, and the two-CD releases kept the album in double-certification zone for RIAA tallying purposes. You can see the result above--notice that both of those Beatles sets makes the all-time list, and other albums that have been reissued as singles don&#039;t. Not evil, just...suspicious.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bottom line, the RIAA system might conform with pricing in most cases, but it just doesn&#039;t conform with the reality of the way albums are purchased.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7820412">Whigged</a>: Okay, maybe some of language about the evil of this method is slightly overheated. BUT&#8230;</p>
<p>What if I only like Billy Joel&#8217;s career in the &#8217;70s and don&#8217;t want his &#8217;80s hits? Can I buy <i>Greatest Hits, Volume I</i>? Nope, not an option. Your choices are $20-plus for the double-set, or nothing.</p>
<p>How do we count sales of the Stones&#8217; <i>Exile on Main Street</i> or Elton John&#8217;s <i>Goodbye Yellow Brick Road</i>, now that they&#8217;re each sold as single discs? For that matter, why weren&#8217;t the Beatles&#8217; &#8220;red&#8221; and &#8220;blue&#8221; greatest-hits sets, each about an hour in length, reissued as single CDs by Capitol in the early &#8217;90s? Answer: greed on EMI&#8217;s part, and the two-CD releases kept the album in double-certification zone for RIAA tallying purposes. You can see the result above&#8211;notice that both of those Beatles sets makes the all-time list, and other albums that have been reissued as singles don&#8217;t. Not evil, just&#8230;suspicious.</p>
<p>Bottom line, the RIAA system might conform with pricing in most cases, but it just doesn&#8217;t conform with the reality of the way albums are purchased.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c7820412&quot;&gt;Whigged&lt;/a&gt;: Yeah, but the original pricing of double albums on vinyl--when most of the sales of The Wall, Zep, Beatles compilations occurred--wasn&#039;t that much higher. $3-$4, if my memory serves. As opposed to now, when those 2 Beatles comps (62-66/67-70) are reeee-dick-u-louosly overpriced. Sort of like most of the Beatles reissues on CD, which have cheap/crap packaging.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7820412">Whigged</a>: Yeah, but the original pricing of double albums on vinyl&#8211;when most of the sales of The Wall, Zep, Beatles compilations occurred&#8211;wasn&#8217;t that much higher. $3-$4, if my memory serves. As opposed to now, when those 2 Beatles comps (62-66/67-70) are reeee-dick-u-louosly overpriced. Sort of like most of the Beatles reissues on CD, which have cheap/crap packaging.</p>
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