Comments on: The Airborne Toxic Event Tries To Kill Pitchfork With Kindness http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness Music News, Reviews, and Gossip on Idolator.com Sat, 26 May 2012 21:38:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: mattowles http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-711912 mattowles Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:17:07 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-711912 <P>i hope silversun pickups isn't L.A.'s flagship indie band. why would he assume they are? perhaps i am out of the loop, but last time i checked i don't know anyone who gives a **** about silversun pickups in any sort of serious way.</P> <P>i personally don't like them. they are boring to me, and so i would hope L.A.'s (and by extension, a lot of Southern California's) flagship band to be a bit more exciting or, at the very least, (marginally) interesting.</P> i hope silversun pickups isn’t L.A.’s flagship indie band. why would he assume they are? perhaps i am out of the loop, but last time i checked i don’t know anyone who gives a **** about silversun pickups in any sort of serious way.

i personally don’t like them. they are boring to me, and so i would hope L.A.’s (and by extension, a lot of Southern California’s) flagship band to be a bit more exciting or, at the very least, (marginally) interesting.

]]> By: How do I say this ... THROWDINI! http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-712012 How do I say this ... THROWDINI! Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:36:49 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-712012 <P>@<A href="http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness#c7847601">D.R. Mosby</A>: I think you're right. How exactly could some band could grow into "a flagship upstart indie band"? In LA, it would have to be some unsigned band that starts getting played on Indie 103.1 (maybe the feel my heat show), leading to a few buzzy, sold out shows at Spaceland, a late-afternoon slot at Sunset Junction, an opening slot at the Fonda for the likes of Spoon, radioplay on KROQ, Star (starting on Oxomatli's morning show) and maybe The Sound, growing from there.</P> <P>I think if you replace KROQ for Indie in my example above (didn't KROQ start playing them first, before they even got a record deal?), you basically have TATE. And not be beat a dead horse, but Silversun Pickups. And maybe Rilo Kiley. And yet, no flagship band.</P> <P>I think LA is too big and diverse for a flagship band, espeically an "indie" one. And for that matter, why would we want one? What's the benefit? It would just mean that in 2018, we'd hear them on KROQ constantly, like RHCP now. No thanks.</P> @D.R. Mosby: I think you’re right. How exactly could some band could grow into “a flagship upstart indie band”? In LA, it would have to be some unsigned band that starts getting played on Indie 103.1 (maybe the feel my heat show), leading to a few buzzy, sold out shows at Spaceland, a late-afternoon slot at Sunset Junction, an opening slot at the Fonda for the likes of Spoon, radioplay on KROQ, Star (starting on Oxomatli’s morning show) and maybe The Sound, growing from there.

I think if you replace KROQ for Indie in my example above (didn’t KROQ start playing them first, before they even got a record deal?), you basically have TATE. And not be beat a dead horse, but Silversun Pickups. And maybe Rilo Kiley. And yet, no flagship band.

I think LA is too big and diverse for a flagship band, espeically an “indie” one. And for that matter, why would we want one? What’s the benefit? It would just mean that in 2018, we’d hear them on KROQ constantly, like RHCP now. No thanks.

]]> By: Lucas Jensen http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-711992 Lucas Jensen Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:53:29 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-711992 <p>@<a href="#c7851646">owenmeany</a>: That's not very nice. LA's a big city and there's a lot going on, no? And it's not like mainstream radio has given anybody incentive to listen to it in the last, oh, 10 years.</p> @owenmeany: That’s not very nice. LA’s a big city and there’s a lot going on, no? And it’s not like mainstream radio has given anybody incentive to listen to it in the last, oh, 10 years.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-712002 Anonymous Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:48:09 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-712002 <p>@<a href="#c7843559">RaptorAvatar</a>: You live in L.A. and this is the first you've heard of them? Their single is in heavy rotation on Indie 103-1, KROQ, 100.3 The Sound, Star 98-7 AND it's played on KCRW. Wanna hear what they sound like? Pay attention to what's happening in your city, or don't claim it as your 'hood.</p> <p>Sorry, you're probably too cool for 'mainstream radio.' "The 'Fork"? C'mon fella.</p> @RaptorAvatar: You live in L.A. and this is the first you’ve heard of them? Their single is in heavy rotation on Indie 103-1, KROQ, 100.3 The Sound, Star 98-7 AND it’s played on KCRW. Wanna hear what they sound like? Pay attention to what’s happening in your city, or don’t claim it as your ‘hood.

Sorry, you’re probably too cool for ‘mainstream radio.’ “The ‘Fork”? C’mon fella.

]]> By: Lucas Jensen http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-711922 Lucas Jensen Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:10:17 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-711922 <p>@<a href="#c7855769">manyjars</a>: Thanks! I would say that REM is definitely the flagship band for Athens, but don't forget Widespread Panic (not my taste, but great guys and good catalysts for local culture) and the E6 guys as well as semi-flagships Drive-By Truckers and of Montreal and up-and-coming flagships like The Whigs. Uh...But, yeah, REM is definitely the big one. But I really never talked about flagships, I swear! I have no opinion really as to whether LA has a flagship band. My understand is that, as it's a rather fractious city, the scenes are often pitted against each other and it's hard to develop that cohesion that makes a scene successful. But I've actually never been there, so what do I know?</p> <p>I'd argue that Atlanta has always had a problem with its geography making it hard for scenes to develop. The great Cabbagetown scene of the 90s came from one centralized location. I'm iffy as to whether Rob's House will turn into anything more than Deerhunter and the Black Lips (though hopeful), but there certainly is more going down in Atlanta than has been happening for quite some time, at least in terms of scene cohesion. As far as Flagship Bands go, though? I'm not sure yet if they really qualify.</p> <p>And I'm acting like I know what a flagship upstart indie rock band is!</p> @manyjars: Thanks! I would say that REM is definitely the flagship band for Athens, but don’t forget Widespread Panic (not my taste, but great guys and good catalysts for local culture) and the E6 guys as well as semi-flagships Drive-By Truckers and of Montreal and up-and-coming flagships like The Whigs. Uh…But, yeah, REM is definitely the big one. But I really never talked about flagships, I swear! I have no opinion really as to whether LA has a flagship band. My understand is that, as it’s a rather fractious city, the scenes are often pitted against each other and it’s hard to develop that cohesion that makes a scene successful. But I’ve actually never been there, so what do I know?

I’d argue that Atlanta has always had a problem with its geography making it hard for scenes to develop. The great Cabbagetown scene of the 90s came from one centralized location. I’m iffy as to whether Rob’s House will turn into anything more than Deerhunter and the Black Lips (though hopeful), but there certainly is more going down in Atlanta than has been happening for quite some time, at least in terms of scene cohesion. As far as Flagship Bands go, though? I’m not sure yet if they really qualify.

And I’m acting like I know what a flagship upstart indie rock band is!

]]> By: Maura Johnston http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-711932 Maura Johnston Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:20:44 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-711932 <p>@<a href="#c7856397">gregcoff</a>: It actually changes every month.</p> @gregcoff: It actually changes every month.

]]> By: gregcoff http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-711942 gregcoff Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:20:14 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-711942 <p>Does New York/Brooklyn have a flagship upstart indie rock band?</p> Does New York/Brooklyn have a flagship upstart indie rock band?

]]> By: manyjars http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-711952 manyjars Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:57:49 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-711952 <p>You've been in a shoegaze band, Lucas -- but have you ever been in a FLAGSHIP band? What is a flagship band, and why does LA need one? Is it just a source of civic pride, or is it like a stimulus check for the musical economy? Does a rising flagship band lift all boats?</p> <p>All kidding aside, you're doing a great job as a guest Idolator, Lucas. As a fellow Georgian, maybe you can break it down for me on a local level. Is REM a flagship band that buys restaurants and inspires musically talented young folk to move to Athens? Are the Black Lips a flagship band, taking other Atlanta bands on the road with them and stimulating interest in local labels like Douchemaster and Rob's House?</p> You’ve been in a shoegaze band, Lucas — but have you ever been in a FLAGSHIP band? What is a flagship band, and why does LA need one? Is it just a source of civic pride, or is it like a stimulus check for the musical economy? Does a rising flagship band lift all boats?

All kidding aside, you’re doing a great job as a guest Idolator, Lucas. As a fellow Georgian, maybe you can break it down for me on a local level. Is REM a flagship band that buys restaurants and inspires musically talented young folk to move to Athens? Are the Black Lips a flagship band, taking other Atlanta bands on the road with them and stimulating interest in local labels like Douchemaster and Rob’s House?

]]> By: Lucas Jensen http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-711962 Lucas Jensen Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:08:46 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-711962 <p>@<a href="#c7853828">DocStrange</a>: I WISH I heard the stuff you are talking about, but I love those bands (I've been in a shoegaze band myself), and I feel nothing but antipathy towards SSPU.</p> @DocStrange: I WISH I heard the stuff you are talking about, but I love those bands (I’ve been in a shoegaze band myself), and I feel nothing but antipathy towards SSPU.

]]> By: DocStrange http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-711972 DocStrange Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:30:54 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-711972 <P>@<A href="http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness#c7853785">DocStrange</A>: Correction: I don't hear as much SP connections as most do (as they do kind of remind me of <I>Siamese Dream</I> era Pumpkins with more input from the whole band, as unlike the Pumpkins, SSPU aren't led by an egomaniac), but I hear alot more of their influence from Slowdive, My Bloody Valenite and (kinda) Lush.</P> @DocStrange: Correction: I don’t hear as much SP connections as most do (as they do kind of remind me of Siamese Dream era Pumpkins with more input from the whole band, as unlike the Pumpkins, SSPU aren’t led by an egomaniac), but I hear alot more of their influence from Slowdive, My Bloody Valenite and (kinda) Lush.

]]> By: DocStrange http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-711982 DocStrange Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:29:01 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-711982 <P>@<A href="http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness#c7847173">Lucas Jensen</A>: I actually don't hear alot of these alleged Smashing Pumpkins connections. If anything they remind me of Slowdive (right down to the vaguely Asian looking female bassist)</P> <P>@<A href="http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness#c7851646">owenmeany</A>: Well, it's not just L.A. spinning "Sometime Around Midnight". The track is now at #33 on the Billboard Modern Rock Tracks chart <A href="http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/esearch/chart_display.jsp?cfi=377&cfgn=Singles&cfn=Hot+Modern+Rock+Tracks&ci=3099684&cdi=9914213&cid=09%2F20%2F2008">[www.billboard.com]</A></P> @Lucas Jensen: I actually don’t hear alot of these alleged Smashing Pumpkins connections. If anything they remind me of Slowdive (right down to the vaguely Asian looking female bassist)

@owenmeany: Well, it’s not just L.A. spinning “Sometime Around Midnight”. The track is now at #33 on the Billboard Modern Rock Tracks chart [www.billboard.com]

]]> By: fabulousrobots http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-712022 fabulousrobots Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:53:19 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-712022 <p>Maybe they should write a really, really great response song instead, like Pelle Carlberg's "Go To Hell, Miss Rydell," which is about him attempting to contact the woman who gave him a bad review.</p> Maybe they should write a really, really great response song instead, like Pelle Carlberg’s “Go To Hell, Miss Rydell,” which is about him attempting to contact the woman who gave him a bad review.

]]> By: D.R. Mosby http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-712032 D.R. Mosby Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:34:31 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-712032 <P>While I agree in general with Ian Cohen's opinion about the TATE album - geez, "Sometime Around Midnight" is such a pastiche that it sounds like a parody - I have to question a couple of things that he says in his review:</P> <P><I>"I probably couldn't get anyone here in Los Angeles to admit it, but the city lacks a flasgship upstart indie band and wants one in the worst way."</I></P> <P>I'm not exactly sure how an entire city can "want a flagship upstart indie band in the worst way" - but, even moreso, if no one in L.A. will own up to having this wish / desire, how does he know that it exists?</P> <P><I>"It's no surprise that many are betting the house on the Airborne Toxic Event."</I></P> <P>What exactly does it mean to "bet the house" on a band? Who is doing the "betting" (aside from the band's label)? Is there a stock market for indie bands that I don't know about?</P> While I agree in general with Ian Cohen’s opinion about the TATE album – geez, “Sometime Around Midnight” is such a pastiche that it sounds like a parody – I have to question a couple of things that he says in his review:

“I probably couldn’t get anyone here in Los Angeles to admit it, but the city lacks a flasgship upstart indie band and wants one in the worst way.”

I’m not exactly sure how an entire city can “want a flagship upstart indie band in the worst way” – but, even moreso, if no one in L.A. will own up to having this wish / desire, how does he know that it exists?

“It’s no surprise that many are betting the house on the Airborne Toxic Event.”

What exactly does it mean to “bet the house” on a band? Who is doing the “betting” (aside from the band’s label)? Is there a stock market for indie bands that I don’t know about?

]]> By: How do I say this ... THROWDINI! http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-712042 How do I say this ... THROWDINI! Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:22:58 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-712042 <P>@<A href="http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness#c7847173">Big Gray.</A>: Fair enough. You're definitely on to something with the Smashing Pumpkins reference, those were the first words out of my friend's mouth when he heard Lazy Eye, but he loves SP, so that was fine with him.</P> @Big Gray.: Fair enough. You’re definitely on to something with the Smashing Pumpkins reference, those were the first words out of my friend’s mouth when he heard Lazy Eye, but he loves SP, so that was fine with him.

]]> By: Lucas Jensen http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-712052 Lucas Jensen Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:05:35 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-712052 <p>@<a href="#c7846838">How do I say this ... THROWDINI!</a>: I just think they sound like warmed over, super-slick alt rock to me. It's a throwback to a sound (say, Smashing Pumpkins' Siamese Dream-era?) that I wasn't particularly missing. They're certainly competent, but it's just not my jam.</p> @How do I say this … THROWDINI!: I just think they sound like warmed over, super-slick alt rock to me. It’s a throwback to a sound (say, Smashing Pumpkins’ Siamese Dream-era?) that I wasn’t particularly missing. They’re certainly competent, but it’s just not my jam.

]]> By: How do I say this ... THROWDINI! http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-712062 How do I say this ... THROWDINI! Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:46:37 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-712062 <P>@<A href="http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness#c7845722">DocStrange</A>: I'm (obviously) with you on this one, I don't know anybody who has actually heard of them that doesn't like them. @<A href="http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness#c7846254">Big Gray.</A>: I know this TATE thread, but I'm curious, what do you and your kind dislike about them?</P> @DocStrange: I’m (obviously) with you on this one, I don’t know anybody who has actually heard of them that doesn’t like them. @Big Gray.: I know this TATE thread, but I’m curious, what do you and your kind dislike about them?

]]> By: Lucas Jensen http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-712072 Lucas Jensen Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:10:17 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-712072 <p>@<a href="#c7845722">DocStrange</a>: Really? I'd be hard-pressed to find anybody I know who likes them! I'm not trying to be contentious either, just stating the facts.</p> @DocStrange: Really? I’d be hard-pressed to find anybody I know who likes them! I’m not trying to be contentious either, just stating the facts.

]]> By: DocStrange http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-712082 DocStrange Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:43:28 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-712082 <P>@<A href="http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness#c7842847">How do I say this ... THROWDINI!</A>: I second that. I had no clue there were people who exist that don't like Silversun Pickups. They're a great band.</P> @How do I say this … THROWDINI!: I second that. I had no clue there were people who exist that don’t like Silversun Pickups. They’re a great band.

]]> By: Michaelangelo Matos http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-712092 Michaelangelo Matos Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:14:38 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-712092 <p>I understand they were also behind the '68 Democratic Convention riots, too. Not bad for a business with only one phone line!</p> I understand they were also behind the ’68 Democratic Convention riots, too. Not bad for a business with only one phone line!

]]> By: Lucas Jensen http://idolator.com/5051801/the-airborne-toxic-event-tries-to-kill-pitchfork-with-kindness/comment-page-1#comment-712102 Lucas Jensen Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:13:20 +0000 http://81bd3067a0b732e23ee73a9558f0806d#comment-712102 <p>@<a href="#c7844835">Michaelangelo Matos</a>: I heard they were in cahoots with Boss Tweed at Tammany Hall!</p> @Michaelangelo Matos: I heard they were in cahoots with Boss Tweed at Tammany Hall!

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