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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Shhhh-it!&#8221;: Idolator&#8217;s Super-Secret Music-Biz Interview Series Reborn</title>
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		<title>By: DavidWatts</title>
		<link>http://idolator.com/5054518/shhhh-it-idolators-super-secret-music-biz-interview-series-reborn/comment-page-1#comment-718322</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidWatts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c7969102&quot;&gt;sicksteanein&lt;/a&gt;: I would say at this point there is actually more industry bs in the indie sector than outside of it - the people at indie labels are about to go under more or less every second of every day, and therefore need every single online review/sync license/tour preview/opening slot/amazon review they can get.  At the majors, while everything is down, down, you&#039;re still talking about raking in millions of dollars a year. There, it&#039;s more like, everything is fine until half the staff gets laid off. There&#039;s a lot more stressed-out industry hustling in the indie world.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7969102">sicksteanein</a>: I would say at this point there is actually more industry bs in the indie sector than outside of it &#8211; the people at indie labels are about to go under more or less every second of every day, and therefore need every single online review/sync license/tour preview/opening slot/amazon review they can get.  At the majors, while everything is down, down, you&#8217;re still talking about raking in millions of dollars a year. There, it&#8217;s more like, everything is fine until half the staff gets laid off. There&#8217;s a lot more stressed-out industry hustling in the indie world.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;let&#039;s try to guess the label:&lt;br&gt;
the interviewee talked about being part of the minor indies, hating to deal with major distributors, and i&#039;m gonna assume he wasn&#039;t joking about the minimal techno artist on his label.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;could it be the DFA? (they have to deal with EMI, and I could see Prinzhorn Dance School opening for String Cheese Incident in a bad idea sort of way)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;probably not, but it was fun to imagine that instead of something boring like Secretly Canadian or Jaguwawawawawawar.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let&#8217;s try to guess the label:<br />
the interviewee talked about being part of the minor indies, hating to deal with major distributors, and i&#8217;m gonna assume he wasn&#8217;t joking about the minimal techno artist on his label.</p>
<p>could it be the DFA? (they have to deal with EMI, and I could see Prinzhorn Dance School opening for String Cheese Incident in a bad idea sort of way)</p>
<p>probably not, but it was fun to imagine that instead of something boring like Secretly Canadian or Jaguwawawawawawar.</p>
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		<title>By: sicksteanein</title>
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		<dc:creator>sicksteanein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;P.S. Great feature. Can&#039;t wait for more candor.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Great feature. Can&#8217;t wait for more candor.</p>
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		<title>By: sicksteanein</title>
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		<dc:creator>sicksteanein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c7968283&quot;&gt;Al Shipley&lt;/a&gt;: Agreed. I&#039;ve always thought that it&#039;s strange that indie kids think they are above the artificial inflation of mainstream acts with their payola and such.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But they fall for hype which doesn&#039;t seem like that much different in terms of its artificiality and effect.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7968283">Al Shipley</a>: Agreed. I&#8217;ve always thought that it&#8217;s strange that indie kids think they are above the artificial inflation of mainstream acts with their payola and such.</p>
<p>But they fall for hype which doesn&#8217;t seem like that much different in terms of its artificiality and effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Jensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c7968283&quot;&gt;Al Shipley&lt;/a&gt;: Yeah, I agree re: the industry seeping into indie rock.  I have seen, however, just as many bands get screwed in industry ways by indie labels as majors in my years in the biz.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7968283">Al Shipley</a>: Yeah, I agree re: the industry seeping into indie rock.  I have seen, however, just as many bands get screwed in industry ways by indie labels as majors in my years in the biz.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Shipley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Shipley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;Always liked this feature, glad to see it back and this was a good one.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It&#039;s funny, because even though I&#039;m a total industry geek and have a voracious interest in this stuff on a pop music level, it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth when I see how much the music business hustle has seeped into indie rock, and it&#039;s not even per se about selling out or cred or whatever, because I&#039;m glad that people at any level are learning how to get their music heard and make a profit from it. But to me, a big part of the whole appeal of indie rock, whether listening to it, making it, or writing about it, is just liking what you like and not worrying about publicists or reviews or sales figures. I mean, even as a critic, it makes me squeamish to see what effect Pitchfork ratings have.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always liked this feature, glad to see it back and this was a good one.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, because even though I&#8217;m a total industry geek and have a voracious interest in this stuff on a pop music level, it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth when I see how much the music business hustle has seeped into indie rock, and it&#8217;s not even per se about selling out or cred or whatever, because I&#8217;m glad that people at any level are learning how to get their music heard and make a profit from it. But to me, a big part of the whole appeal of indie rock, whether listening to it, making it, or writing about it, is just liking what you like and not worrying about publicists or reviews or sales figures. I mean, even as a critic, it makes me squeamish to see what effect Pitchfork ratings have.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick Kraut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick Kraut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/5054518/shhhh+it-idolators-super+secret-music+biz-interview-series-reborn#c7965913&quot;&gt;goldsounds&lt;/A&gt;:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I agree. That said have there been any sort of successes in purely digital distribution for a label?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I to am a non-industry type...a mere consumer. I purchase all of my music from iTunes or Amazon&#039;s MP3 service. I purchase new music nearly weekly. In the last 5 years I have only purchased 1 physical CD and that was only because the band specifically released it to indie record shops only. Digital only works for me but does it really work in the industry as presently constituted?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/5054518/shhhh+it-idolators-super+secret-music+biz-interview-series-reborn#c7965913">goldsounds</a>:</p>
<p>I agree. That said have there been any sort of successes in purely digital distribution for a label?</p>
<p>I to am a non-industry type&#8230;a mere consumer. I purchase all of my music from iTunes or Amazon&#8217;s MP3 service. I purchase new music nearly weekly. In the last 5 years I have only purchased 1 physical CD and that was only because the band specifically released it to indie record shops only. Digital only works for me but does it really work in the industry as presently constituted?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Knew it all along -- Pitchfork is mightier than God.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great interview. It just doesn&#039;t seem that there&#039;s any way launching a record label at this point in time is fiscally possible -- particularly CD based. Have there been any success stories in the last few years?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knew it all along &#8212; Pitchfork is mightier than God.</p>
<p>Great interview. It just doesn&#8217;t seem that there&#8217;s any way launching a record label at this point in time is fiscally possible &#8212; particularly CD based. Have there been any success stories in the last few years?</p>
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		<title>By: RaptorAvatar</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaptorAvatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;That was pretty great... Can we try to guess who it is?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was pretty great&#8230; Can we try to guess who it is?</p>
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		<title>By: How do I say this ... THROWDINI!</title>
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		<dc:creator>How do I say this ... THROWDINI!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;Good interview. I have no connection to the &quot;music industry&quot; other than as a cd-buying, concert-going, blog-reading fan and I find these peeks &quot;backstage&quot; fascinating. It&#039;s really great to see this feature back.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good interview. I have no connection to the &#8220;music industry&#8221; other than as a cd-buying, concert-going, blog-reading fan and I find these peeks &#8220;backstage&#8221; fascinating. It&#8217;s really great to see this feature back.</p>
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