Comments on: Seriously, Why Is Katy Perry So Hung Up On Traditional Gender Roles?

By: ObtuseIntolerant

ObtuseIntolerant — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:05:39 +0000

Very enjoyable thread all around!! Nicely done.

Only two cents I'd like to add is...why is our choice down to crappy phony-rebel bitchpop or over-the-hill blandrock? Can't we vote both out and just move on?!

Ugh..the election is affecting my view of everything.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:11:16 +0000

Can’t…wait…till a sex tape surfaces……..

By: Rock You Like An Iracane

Rock You Like An Iracane — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:33:33 +0000

@Poubelle: If she's said, "I'm edgy," well, I've missed it, and that would be bullshit. If it's the poseur act that rubs the wrong way, the fact that she's a charlatan of a chanteuse in hot pants, well, I'm not as turned off by that as some.

By: Poubelle

Poubelle — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:00:40 +0000

@Rock You Like An Iracane: See, none of those dudes act like they're like, totally transgressive and groundbreaking. I've never heard any one of those acts call themselves "edgy." Hell, Nickelback's big hit is all about being a rock star in the most classic sense. I prefer honest out-and-out misogyny/homophobia to Katy Perry's "I'm doing something good girls don't do! I'm rebelling! Look at me! Look at me!" bullshit.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:38:14 +0000

I can't believe no one's commented on the amazing picture quality of this myspace vid. This is the clearest music video I have ever seen on my computer. It's almost TV-like quality.

@Maura Johnston: I'd like to think she says corny shit like that because she came from a strict Christian background. She's "rebelling" at the moment, even if it is a little weird seeing a 24 year old who equates yelling "penis" with being edgy.

By: Rock You Like An Iracane

Rock You Like An Iracane — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:11:29 +0000

@Maura Johnston: Either she's just that dumb or she's playing us all for fools and will reveal herself as one of the Michalka girls (Aly and AJ) soon enough.

I wouldn't argue that Katy Perry's really GOOD, sociologically or musically. But she's not as bad as she's sometimes demonized to be.

By: Maura Johnston

Maura Johnston — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:05:01 +0000

@Rock You Like An Iracane: she certainly thinks she is edgy. she also yells 'PEEEENISSSS!' during her shows.

By: Rock You Like An Iracane

Rock You Like An Iracane — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:58:49 +0000

@janine: You think she's not going to have longevity in dance? Uh...

I, too, would hope we were past the "gay as synonym for stupid" stage in sociological development, but as an 18-year-old male, I can tell you it's alive and well, along with more vulgar terms.

And, yeah, she's almost antiseptic as far as her sexuality goes, what with the taste of cherry ChapStick probably the hottest bit of sensuality in "I Kissed a Girl," but that doesn't mean she isn't playing on her sexuality by never showing up anywhere without thigh-to-toe leg or, well, this.

I'd agree with you on the retrograde thing, though; we're in a "Since U Been Gone" stretch of what I would hope is the Kanye/Justin/Beyonce/Timbaland/Danja Era of pop, and there's not going to be another anything on par with that wonderful, fantastic song. The best thing not named Carrie Underwood that Idol's produced.

By: janine

janine — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:48:24 +0000

@janine: ...every one of her songs whose lyrics I've cared to look at...

By: janine

janine — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:47:04 +0000

@Rock You Like An Iracane: I'm not talking about "the exploitation of female sexuality." Besides, she's oddly sexless given the size and visibility of her tatters.

I'm just wondering if we aren't yet past the use of gay as an epithet (Ur So Gay), and if we aren't encouraging at least a tip o' the hat to the bad old days by letting it pass as acceptable, especially when similar stupid shit pops up in every song whose lyrics I've cared to look at. That's what I mean by hetero-normative. Granted, I've disliked her from the first song I heard, so I'm probably not giving this song a chance.

By her music being retrograde, I would say that her music sounds like 5 years ago, except that Dangerously in Love and Justified sound much fresher.

I can comfort myself in knowing that she will have no longevity in dance music without the gays.