Project X Hits the Hip-Hop Nostalgia Circuit

As part of Idolator’s continuing effort to geekily analyze every music chart known to man, we present a new edition of Project X, in which Michaelangelo Matos breaks down top-ten lists from every genre imaginable. After the jump, he sits through VH1’s latest TV-based listicle, 100 Greatest Hip-Hop Songs, and finds a few poignant moments among the MC Hammer jokes:



Last week, when I wrote about listicles, I forgot a non-print, but still big and obvious, agent of the format’s spread: cable television. The televised countdown goes back to the ’50s, when longstanding radio favorite Your Hit Parade counted down the Top 7 or Top 10 (depending on the season) songs of the week, as performed by an in-house band and singers. Then rock and roll happened, and bye-bye house bands. This begat the record hop (e.g. American Bandstand and Soul Train and, in the U.K., Top of the Pops), followed by video, which just before MTV led to the syndicated America’s Top 10 and Solid Gold, each using different chart data and methodology to deliver the week’s Top 10. MTV did some of that, too. It also spawned VH1, which started out MOR but soon found its footing when it adopted a campier, retro approach, becoming Nick at Nite to MTV’s Nickelodeon. Which mean, wouldn’t you know, tons and tons of countdowns of the all-time Top 100 thisses or thats.

The one the channel ran last week actually had me a little bit excited, in part because I had no real idea how it would shake out: 100 Greatest Hip-Hop Songs, which ran in five installments. Maybe I would have figured the outcome had I allowed myself to guess, but between having absolutely no time to myself lately and wanting to keep my responses fresh, I watched all of it cold.

VH1’s 10 Greatest Hip-Hop Songs (as aired Friday, October 3)
1. Public Enemy, “Fight the Power” (Def Jam, 1989)
2. Sugarhill Gang, “Rapper’s Delight” (Sugarhill, 1979)
3. Dr. Dre ft. Snoop Doggy Dogg, “Nuthin’ But a ‘G’ Thang” (Death Row, 1993)
4. Run-D.M.C., “Walk This Way” (Profile, 1986)
5. Grandmaster Flash & the Furious 5, “The Message” (Sugarhill, 1982)
6. N.W.A., “Straight Outta Compton” (Ruthless, 1988)
7. The Notorious B.I.G., “Juicy” (Bad Boy, 1994)
8. Snoop Doggy Dogg, “Gin and Juice” (Death Row, 1993)
9. Salt-n-Pepa, “Push It” (Next Plateau, 1986)
10. Kurtis Blow, “The Breaks” (Mercury, 1980)

(You can find the entire list at Stereogum.)

That’s a Top 10 I would never have guessed–“The Breaks” at No. 10? “Push It” at No. 9?—and yet, reading it, I’m not surprised at all. Of course Public Enemy is No. 1: watching in order, I kept expecting “911 Is Joke” to pop up somewhere on the chart’s bottom half. That was the big one on MTV, right? That seemed to determine a few selections: No. 6, with its Symbolic Video; No. 38, Coolio’s “Gangsta’s Paradise,” which makes every part of my body cringe; and No. 25, MC Hammer’s “U Can’t Touch This,” whose talking-head segments seemed the most genuinely strained, as opposed to I-can’t-think-of-anything-to-say-help times 20 strained.

My guesses for the Top 10 mostly took place as the show reached the 30s. That’s one pleasure of this sort of thing: you get to play along. The game was tipped at the top of the final episode when its first selection, Kanye West ft. Jamie Foxx’s “Gold Digger,” prompted the arrival of Chuck D, almost nowhere to be seen in four prior episodes despite his obvious place as one of the most historically attuned rap pros. Surely he could be quotable about Hammer–whom Chuck D has always paid respect to in interviews–and his old tour-mates the Beastie Boys. Their entry–No. 27, “Hold It Now, Hit It”–was not a big hit at the time but has remained an enduring cult favorite, something the producers clearly did a lot of to balance out all that MTV.

Me, I’d wondered if the Beasties might not appear on the second episode, when 3rd Bass and House of Pain placed 70th (“Pop Goes the Weasel”) and 66th (“Jump Around”), respectively. If that sounds overly cynical, I’ll just say I figured they might make the list twice, along with others of their golden-era Def Jam ilk and maybe Jay-Z. (“Hard Knock Life” at No. 11?! Not “Big Pimpin’” or “99 Problems” or even “Izzo”? Come on!) The first episode made me especially suspicious of the way the numbers were running. The list was advertised as having been voted for by viewers, who must have been voting in very controlled patterns to place together three consecutive house/disco-inflected jams: Jungle Brothers’ “What ‘U’ Waitin’ ‘4’,” Wyclef Jean ft. Refugee All Stars’, “We Tryin’ to Stay Alive,” and Heavy D. & the Boyz’ “Now That We’ve Found Love,” Nos. 88 to 86. Come on, guys.

Aside from the usual wan jokes and “hey, I know the words of this very popular chorus too!” talking-head stuff, the clips and artist bios were rather more endearing here than on most of VH1’s 100-best-whatever fare. And more poignant: if you’re looking for a drinking game, wait till VH1 runs this as a marathon and swallow one shot for each time announcer Fab 5 Freddy mentions “the hip-hop nostalgia circuit.” You don’t even have to know the list to figure out who’s on it: Sir Mix-a-Lot (No. 17, “Baby Got Back”); Young MC (No. 47, “Bust a Move”); Tone-Loc (No. 39, “Wild Thing”); Arrested Development (No. 78, “Tennessee”); P.M. Dawn (No. 81, “Set Adrift on Memory Bliss”); Digital Underground (No. 29, “The Humpty Dance”); and 2 Live Crew (No. 83, “Me So Horny”), for starters.

It’s the old school, though, that got to me. (“Old school” has acquired too many meanings for its own good, so let me state clearly that I’m talking about artists who preceded Run-D.M.C.) Spoonie Gee (No. 65, “Love Rap”) walking around New York, head shaved, with a splendid orange-and-brown button-down, or J.J. Fad (No. 72, “Supersonic”) reminiscing about their younger selves, were somehow more poignant than their constantly touring descendants. And of course the Funky 4 + 1, creators of No. 41 (see what they did there?), “That’s the Joint,” still my favorite single of all time. Knowing that Sha Rock, the group’s female MC, does hip-hop bus tours–as does Grandmaster Caz of the Cold Crush Brothers (No. 77, “Cold Crush Brothers at the Dixie”)–makes me want to do something touristy for once in my life. And hearing the group discuss their disappointment at never having made an album gave a little gravity to a show that needed it.

 

  • Anonymous

    "We Trying to Stay Alive," is worse than the the stripper song?

  • Michaelangelo Matos

    @encyclopediablack: Though in the list's favor it did have the presence of mind to put "Roxanne's Revenge" way above "Roxanne, Roxanne."

  • encyclopediablack

    @seeohhellbeewhy: I'm dead serious when I say this but what was the influence of "My Neck, My Back?" Female rappers have been making "lovemaking advice" jams for decades.


    As for "Ether," yes it's one of the greatest diss records of all time, if not the greatest. But I think VH1 was trying to keep their list beef-free with the exception of Pop Goes The Weasel (which should have been replaced with "The Gas Face")and Roxanne's Revenge.

  • Michaelangelo Matos

    And yes, I know they only let viewers choose from a list; that's what I was alluding to.

  • Michaelangelo Matos

    I didn't have room to mention this, but the Lady Tigra is so hot it's ridiculous. (Sorry.)

  • Maura Johnston

    @seeohhellbeewhy: "a little crass for vh1"? have you seen "i love money"?

  • seeohhellbeewhy

    @Al Shipley: That may be true, but Eve? She jumped onto a sinking ship (ruff ryders) and has been a mockery of herself ever since. T.L.C. released better hip hop singles than "Who's That Girl". And what about Khia? "My Neck, My Back" may be a little crass for VH1 but there's no denying the popularity and influence of that single.


    @encyclopediablack: That is an amazing song off a nearly flawless album, but hardly the track i would've chosen to represent him. With only one song per artist, i would've went with "Ether" (duh!).

  • Al Shipley

    @encyclopediablack: These VH1 things seem to be pretty inclusive of female rappers in general (see also the Rap Honors thing, which inducted Missy alongside a bunch of male artists who made their impact much earlier).

  • encyclopediablack

    @seeohhellbeewhy: I agree with the notion that Gold Digger and Hard Knock Life aren't the true gems of Jay and Kanye's catalogs, but I think One Love might be Nas' best song.


    And amen to your concern over Eve making this list? What the fuck is that about?

  • Chris Molanphy

    @Al Shipley: they'd be better off either doing it all editorially


    Agreed. Thanks for pointing this out -- I was going to do the same.


    All that said, as a show this has been one of my favorite VH1 top 100s ever, obviously because of the subject matter and because of the visual aspect -- hip-hop has such a rich trove of low-rent and/or so-dated-it's-great video material to work with. And they picked (mostly) good talking heads for this one. In particular, "Kid" of Kid N' Play has infectious enthusiasm and knows a shitload about hip-hop, even songs that postdated his heyday.


    In fact, if there's anything frustrating about this list, it's that it veers from half-great to tacky. They name-check a lot of records the average VH1 viewer doesn't know at all (or, let's be fair: the average modern hip-hop fan doesn't know, either; I defy anyone who isn't a critic or diehard fan over 30 to know much about Wild Style), which earns my respect. And then they turn around and put an avowedly awful record like "We Trying to Stay Alive," Clef's worst single ever (and he's had good ones), on the same damn list. So unnecessary.

  • Al Shipley

    These VH1 lists are "voted for by viewers" in only the loosest sense: they select 200 or 300 songs as voting options, and then let people vote for the top 100 of those. That's why you get so many token picks of one song each by a lot of major artists, and why so many of those picks seem like head-scratchers. Ultimately, that's a good and a bad thing: if they left it wide open, you'd probably get some motivated online fanbase voting a dozen Eminem or 2Pac songs onto the list, and this way they kind of mandate a wider variety. But still, the idea of it being a democratically assembled list is kind of a sham, and they'd be better off either doing it all editorially, or letting a panel of actual hip hop artists and experts vote.

  • Dickdogfood

    MY HEART GOES PANG: [www.zerve.com]

  • Dickdogfood

    I am grateful to know that I am not the only one who thinks "Gangsta's Paradise" is gross.

  • seeohhellbeewhy

    This list has baffled me since i first read about it 2 weeks ago. The sheer lack of Wu-related singles (absolutely no Gza, Ghostface or Raekwon? Only Built 4 Cuban Linx was one of the most important records released in the early '90s, if not the most influential gangster rap album of all time), and the tracks picked by Jay-Z, Kanye and Nas were weak selections from otherwise amazing artists. I can think of at least 10 Public Enemy songs that I would've picked before "Fight the Power" (Rebel Without a Pause?!!), but i guess that was the most palatable to VH1's demographic? I don't get it.


    Also, how did Eve make it on this list?

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