Comments on: The Return Of Eminem: Too Little, Too Late? http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late Music News, Reviews, and Gossip on Idolator.com Sat, 26 May 2012 20:42:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: T'Challa http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late/comment-page-1#comment-740192 T'Challa Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:51:13 +0000 http://705faf7fad27d1744dcffa8a7c816d43#comment-740192 <p>Yeah, trying to bag on mid-'70s Stones is a tough battle (See 'Sucking in the '70s,' chock full of goodness).</p> Yeah, trying to bag on mid-’70s Stones is a tough battle (See ‘Sucking in the ’70s,’ chock full of goodness).

]]> By: Lucas Jensen http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late/comment-page-1#comment-740202 Lucas Jensen Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:39:00 +0000 http://705faf7fad27d1744dcffa8a7c816d43#comment-740202 <p>@<a href="#c8420846">Lucas Jensen</a>: Oh, wait. I like Tattoo You.</p> @Lucas Jensen: Oh, wait. I like Tattoo You.

]]> By: Lucas Jensen http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late/comment-page-1#comment-740212 Lucas Jensen Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:38:49 +0000 http://705faf7fad27d1744dcffa8a7c816d43#comment-740212 <p>@<a href="#c8419645">Michaelangelo Matos</a>: I don't know. I might be the lone defender of both Black and Blue and It's Only Rock and Roll around here, but I dig 'em. I certainly don't think they were terrible and Some Girls was on the horizon. Now after that? Yeah, they kinda started sucking.</p> @Michaelangelo Matos: I don’t know. I might be the lone defender of both Black and Blue and It’s Only Rock and Roll around here, but I dig ‘em. I certainly don’t think they were terrible and Some Girls was on the horizon. Now after that? Yeah, they kinda started sucking.

]]> By: Michaelangelo Matos http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late/comment-page-1#comment-740222 Michaelangelo Matos Sun, 19 Oct 2008 07:09:50 +0000 http://705faf7fad27d1744dcffa8a7c816d43#comment-740222 <p>Everyone remembers that the Rolling Stones sucked in 1975, right?</p> Everyone remembers that the Rolling Stones sucked in 1975, right?

]]> By: Halfwit http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late/comment-page-1#comment-740242 Halfwit Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:37:55 +0000 http://705faf7fad27d1744dcffa8a7c816d43#comment-740242 <p>@<a href="#c8403517">iantenna</a>: The sheer hilarity of a Dylan/Eminem comparison aside, Eminem has even crossed that age threshold.</p> <p>Blood on the Tracks - 34. <br> Desire - 35. <br> Eminem - 36 (yesterday, actually).</p> @iantenna: The sheer hilarity of a Dylan/Eminem comparison aside, Eminem has even crossed that age threshold.

Blood on the Tracks – 34.
Desire – 35.
Eminem – 36 (yesterday, actually).

]]> By: La Mareada http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late/comment-page-1#comment-740232 La Mareada Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:23:26 +0000 http://705faf7fad27d1744dcffa8a7c816d43#comment-740232 <P>@<A href="http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem--too-little-too-late#c8402783">iantenna</A>: Its always a focus because the most popular mainstream hip-hop wallows in misogyny and doesn't move on. Hip-hop became more closed minded and narrow about women and Eminem's popularity in the 90s solidified that. For Eminem its the central theme of his work, what else is there to discuss? Artists that seem less consumed by it like Kanye or Outkast have to always add some awkward, out-the-blue lyrics to prove they're not soft or gay. Sure there are hip-hop artists that aren't at all sexist or misogynist(and someone's going to post a list), but how many of them are actually popular or considered relevant in the 2000s?</P> @iantenna: Its always a focus because the most popular mainstream hip-hop wallows in misogyny and doesn’t move on. Hip-hop became more closed minded and narrow about women and Eminem’s popularity in the 90s solidified that. For Eminem its the central theme of his work, what else is there to discuss? Artists that seem less consumed by it like Kanye or Outkast have to always add some awkward, out-the-blue lyrics to prove they’re not soft or gay. Sure there are hip-hop artists that aren’t at all sexist or misogynist(and someone’s going to post a list), but how many of them are actually popular or considered relevant in the 2000s?

]]> By: I'm Crushing Your Head http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late/comment-page-1#comment-740252 I'm Crushing Your Head Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:56:53 +0000 http://705faf7fad27d1744dcffa8a7c816d43#comment-740252 <p><i>The class of '99 has its 30s in sight.</i></p> <p>...and now I feel prematurely old.</p> The class of ’99 has its 30s in sight.

…and now I feel prematurely old.

]]> By: iantenna http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late/comment-page-1#comment-740262 iantenna Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:24:31 +0000 http://705faf7fad27d1744dcffa8a7c816d43#comment-740262 <P>@<A href="http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem--too-little-too-late#c8403399">Halfwit</A>: dylan seemed to hate women more the older he got and it kinda made him better (see: <I>desire</I> and <I>blood on the tracks</I>).</P> @Halfwit: dylan seemed to hate women more the older he got and it kinda made him better (see: desire and blood on the tracks).

]]> By: Lax Danja House http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late/comment-page-1#comment-740272 Lax Danja House Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:21:44 +0000 http://705faf7fad27d1744dcffa8a7c816d43#comment-740272 <p>That "I Kissed A Boy" parody was probably the most uncomfortable I've been in a long time. I mean, I've probably only listened to Eminem's last 2 albums once or twice each, but I was completely consumed by <i>Slim Shady</i> and <i>Marshall Mathers</i> for a long time, so I am prepared to overlook his massive prejudices, but... jesus! The fascination some homophobes have with painting graphic images of gay sex is kind of... odd?</p> That “I Kissed A Boy” parody was probably the most uncomfortable I’ve been in a long time. I mean, I’ve probably only listened to Eminem’s last 2 albums once or twice each, but I was completely consumed by Slim Shady and Marshall Mathers for a long time, so I am prepared to overlook his massive prejudices, but… jesus! The fascination some homophobes have with painting graphic images of gay sex is kind of… odd?

]]> By: Halfwit http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late/comment-page-1#comment-740282 Halfwit Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:16:13 +0000 http://705faf7fad27d1744dcffa8a7c816d43#comment-740282 <p>For me personally, it's not so much that homophobia and misogyny in rap are any more problematic than those themes in other genres. The problem is that once you're no longer... let's say, 25, it comes across as just calcified hatred.</p> <p>The "Slim Shady's back" concept makes me say that this is going to be serviceable, but largely sad and desperate. Every long-lived musician has a point where the "hungry, angry young turk" persona just looks like a mid-life crisis: even Jay-Z had to hang up the throwbacks at a certain point.</p> For me personally, it’s not so much that homophobia and misogyny in rap are any more problematic than those themes in other genres. The problem is that once you’re no longer… let’s say, 25, it comes across as just calcified hatred.

The “Slim Shady’s back” concept makes me say that this is going to be serviceable, but largely sad and desperate. Every long-lived musician has a point where the “hungry, angry young turk” persona just looks like a mid-life crisis: even Jay-Z had to hang up the throwbacks at a certain point.

]]> By: phaballa http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late/comment-page-1#comment-740292 phaballa Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:57:48 +0000 http://705faf7fad27d1744dcffa8a7c816d43#comment-740292 <p>Homophobia and misogyny work pretty well for Katy Perry.</p> Homophobia and misogyny work pretty well for Katy Perry.

]]> By: Dan Gibson http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late/comment-page-1#comment-740302 Dan Gibson Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:43:46 +0000 http://705faf7fad27d1744dcffa8a7c816d43#comment-740302 <p>@<a href="#c8402783">iantenna</a>: You're missing the point a bit. I'm not finding general misogyny (or even hip hop's in particular) unlistenable, just Eminem's particularly disturbing and tiresome brand.</p> @iantenna: You’re missing the point a bit. I’m not finding general misogyny (or even hip hop’s in particular) unlistenable, just Eminem’s particularly disturbing and tiresome brand.

]]> By: iantenna http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late/comment-page-1#comment-740312 iantenna Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:31:37 +0000 http://705faf7fad27d1744dcffa8a7c816d43#comment-740312 <P><I>To me, hearing the same misogyny and random bursts of juvenile hate speech from a 36-year-old man sounds like the worst listening experience ever.</I></P> <P>why is it that rap's misogyny is always such a focal point? i'd certainly agree that his sexual politics leave something to be desired, but the same goes for hemingway and dylan and countless others.</P> To me, hearing the same misogyny and random bursts of juvenile hate speech from a 36-year-old man sounds like the worst listening experience ever.

why is it that rap’s misogyny is always such a focal point? i’d certainly agree that his sexual politics leave something to be desired, but the same goes for hemingway and dylan and countless others.

]]> By: Audif Jackson Winters III http://idolator.com/5065296/the-return-of-eminem-too-little-too-late/comment-page-1#comment-740322 Audif Jackson Winters III Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:46:58 +0000 http://705faf7fad27d1744dcffa8a7c816d43#comment-740322 <P>It's over/<BR>nobody listens to techno/</P> It’s over/
nobody listens to techno/

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