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	<title>Comments on: Catchy Deeds, Sold Dirt Cheap: Angus Young Not As Allergic To Singles As He Lets On</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think Young is way talking out of his posterior. They&#039;re selling &quot;songs&quot; on Verizon&#039;s a la carte. It&#039;s all about what companies are willing to pay for their exclusivity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whores.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Young is way talking out of his posterior. They&#8217;re selling &#8220;songs&#8221; on Verizon&#8217;s a la carte. It&#8217;s all about what companies are willing to pay for their exclusivity.</p>
<p>Whores.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gavin Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Gavin Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Whoops:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I meant &quot;&lt;i&gt;than&lt;/i&gt; [not and] &lt;i&gt;Back in Black&lt;/i&gt; specifically,&quot; of course.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops:</p>
<p>I meant &#8220;<i>than</i> [not and] <i>Back in Black</i> specifically,&#8221; of course.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gavin Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Gavin Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great piece!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A few notes:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s worth remembering that there were/are regional variations in the AOR key acts. I remember being surprised in the late &#039;80s to discover that a southern AOR station doing an all-time greatest rock hits put Van Halen on the very top.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t have access to the catalog sales, but it wouldn&#039;t surprise me if AC/DC were less interested in protecting catalog sales in general and &lt;i&gt;Back in Black&lt;/i&gt; specifically.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s a whole sequence of releases available to AC/DC, even if they want to stay away from iTunes (for royalty reasons or whatever): first a double-disc greatest hits with one disc for the Bon Scott years and another for the Brian Johnson era, then a single-disc &quot;very best of.&quot; If this deal works out well for Wal-Mart, the chain should lean on them to do the double-disc greatest hits next year. (Funny how Wal-Mart becomes a much more important player in this decision than Columbia.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece!</p>
<p>A few notes:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth remembering that there were/are regional variations in the AOR key acts. I remember being surprised in the late &#8217;80s to discover that a southern AOR station doing an all-time greatest rock hits put Van Halen on the very top.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have access to the catalog sales, but it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if AC/DC were less interested in protecting catalog sales in general and <i>Back in Black</i> specifically.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a whole sequence of releases available to AC/DC, even if they want to stay away from iTunes (for royalty reasons or whatever): first a double-disc greatest hits with one disc for the Bon Scott years and another for the Brian Johnson era, then a single-disc &#8220;very best of.&#8221; If this deal works out well for Wal-Mart, the chain should lean on them to do the double-disc greatest hits next year. (Funny how Wal-Mart becomes a much more important player in this decision than Columbia.)</p>
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		<title>By: Figgsrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Figgsrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/5066270/catchy-deeds-sold-dirt-cheap-angus-young-not-as-allergic-to-singles-as-he-lets-on#c8449750&quot;&gt;2ironic4u&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Just for comparison: The heritage AOR I worked at in 1991 did not play &quot;Enter Sandman&quot; in afternoon drive until it was at least 4 months in on that cut. When I signed on an active rock in 1992, we played songs from The Black Album in every daypart, at least until our morning show (which i was a part of for a time) got replaced by a crosstown show from the Top 40 station.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/5066270/catchy-deeds-sold-dirt-cheap-angus-young-not-as-allergic-to-singles-as-he-lets-on#c8450467&quot;&gt;Chris Molanphy&lt;/A&gt;: &lt;BR&gt;I have been a lurker for a loooong time, but since I was just emailing with a guy I worked with back in 1990 about our old days in radio, I guess I felt compelled to chime in.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The hertiage station I grew up listening to in the early to mid 80s I ended up working on air at as a 20 year old in 1990. Before that year, the core artists were Zeppelin (almost every daypart, btw), Stones, Who, Beatles, etc. And &quot;Sweet Child o&#039; Mine&quot; was dayparted to after 12 noon, even though it was a number-one CHR single. When the new PD came in in 1990, he was the one to pick up the pace--and made sure we played a Boston song every hour and 15 minutes. It&#039;s taken me 18 years to like &quot;More than a Feeling&quot; again.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/5066270/catchy-deeds-sold-dirt-cheap-angus-young-not-as-allergic-to-singles-as-he-lets-on#c8449750">2ironic4u</a><br />Just for comparison: The heritage AOR I worked at in 1991 did not play &#8220;Enter Sandman&#8221; in afternoon drive until it was at least 4 months in on that cut. When I signed on an active rock in 1992, we played songs from The Black Album in every daypart, at least until our morning show (which i was a part of for a time) got replaced by a crosstown show from the Top 40 station.</p>
<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/5066270/catchy-deeds-sold-dirt-cheap-angus-young-not-as-allergic-to-singles-as-he-lets-on#c8450467">Chris Molanphy</a>: <br />I have been a lurker for a loooong time, but since I was just emailing with a guy I worked with back in 1990 about our old days in radio, I guess I felt compelled to chime in.</p>
<p>The hertiage station I grew up listening to in the early to mid 80s I ended up working on air at as a 20 year old in 1990. Before that year, the core artists were Zeppelin (almost every daypart, btw), Stones, Who, Beatles, etc. And &#8220;Sweet Child o&#8217; Mine&#8221; was dayparted to after 12 noon, even though it was a number-one CHR single. When the new PD came in in 1990, he was the one to pick up the pace&#8211;and made sure we played a Boston song every hour and 15 minutes. It&#8217;s taken me 18 years to like &#8220;More than a Feeling&#8221; again.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Molanphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Molanphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8448144&quot;&gt;Al Shipley&lt;/a&gt;: Fair point. I guess I overstated the case a little toward the bottom, but at the very least, I don&#039;t buy that singles hurt/cannibalize AC/DC&#039;s album sales. What little &quot;Rock n&#039; Roll Train&quot; would hypothetically sell at iTunes, it&#039;d be found money, not a serious detriment to &lt;i&gt;Black Ice&lt;/i&gt;. They and Kid Rock are in the same boat when it comes to loyal fans willing to spring for the full disc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8448211&quot;&gt;Figgsrock&lt;/a&gt;: This is &lt;i&gt;excellent&lt;/i&gt; feedback, thanks! (And I don&#039;t mind the caveat at all.) I&#039;m with Al--keep in touch.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8448873&quot;&gt;Thierry&lt;/a&gt;: I&#039;m sure their royalty on CDs, even before the Wal-Mart deal, is way better than what they get on downloads. Irving Azoff said as much when he explained why the Eagles went to Wal-Mart and blew off iTunes last year. Actually, that&#039;s part of what I&#039;m aiming to puncture with this whole column: Angus Young&#039;s obnoxiously disingenuous reason for sticking with albums, like it&#039;s some artistic move. Give Azoff and those greedy Eagles credit: at least they&#039;re totally blunt about their motivations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8449750&quot;&gt;2ironic4u&lt;/a&gt;: I guess Figgsrock should comment here, but my memories of the mid-&#039;80s jibe with his: AOR was more of an Eagles-Who-Stones format going into the &#039;80s, with Zeppelin thrown in because they were massive and unavoidable. But true metal was too dangerous for their air until at least &lt;i&gt;Appetite for Destruction&lt;/i&gt;, and even then sparingly. In a way, this is what made MTV so important to the &#039;80s metal boom: even before &quot;Headbangers&#039; Ball,&quot; they were the ones consistently playing metal, not radio--not until the last few years, and then Nirvana came along.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8448144">Al Shipley</a>: Fair point. I guess I overstated the case a little toward the bottom, but at the very least, I don&#8217;t buy that singles hurt/cannibalize AC/DC&#8217;s album sales. What little &#8220;Rock n&#8217; Roll Train&#8221; would hypothetically sell at iTunes, it&#8217;d be found money, not a serious detriment to <i>Black Ice</i>. They and Kid Rock are in the same boat when it comes to loyal fans willing to spring for the full disc.</p>
<p>@<a href="#c8448211">Figgsrock</a>: This is <i>excellent</i> feedback, thanks! (And I don&#8217;t mind the caveat at all.) I&#8217;m with Al&#8211;keep in touch.</p>
<p>@<a href="#c8448873">Thierry</a>: I&#8217;m sure their royalty on CDs, even before the Wal-Mart deal, is way better than what they get on downloads. Irving Azoff said as much when he explained why the Eagles went to Wal-Mart and blew off iTunes last year. Actually, that&#8217;s part of what I&#8217;m aiming to puncture with this whole column: Angus Young&#8217;s obnoxiously disingenuous reason for sticking with albums, like it&#8217;s some artistic move. Give Azoff and those greedy Eagles credit: at least they&#8217;re totally blunt about their motivations.</p>
<p>@<a href="#c8449750">2ironic4u</a>: I guess Figgsrock should comment here, but my memories of the mid-&#8217;80s jibe with his: AOR was more of an Eagles-Who-Stones format going into the &#8217;80s, with Zeppelin thrown in because they were massive and unavoidable. But true metal was too dangerous for their air until at least <i>Appetite for Destruction</i>, and even then sparingly. In a way, this is what made MTV so important to the &#8217;80s metal boom: even before &#8220;Headbangers&#8217; Ball,&#8221; they were the ones consistently playing metal, not radio&#8211;not until the last few years, and then Nirvana came along.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;These guys act like every song on their albums is worth listening to.  I don&#039;t ever want to hear &quot;You shook me all night long&quot; again.  But I would buy &quot;Let me put my love into you&quot;.  So in that regard, they are missing out on sales because I can&#039;t just buy one or two cuts, and won&#039;t buy they whole record.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys act like every song on their albums is worth listening to.  I don&#8217;t ever want to hear &#8220;You shook me all night long&#8221; again.  But I would buy &#8220;Let me put my love into you&#8221;.  So in that regard, they are missing out on sales because I can&#8217;t just buy one or two cuts, and won&#8217;t buy they whole record.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8448211&quot;&gt;Figgsrock&lt;/a&gt;: You know I was amazed that Metallica didn&#039;t crack the Mainstream Rock charts until (really) the black album era.  Was AOR rock radio really afraid to play &quot;heavier&quot; rock acts like Metallica, AC/DC back in the day?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8448211">Figgsrock</a>: You know I was amazed that Metallica didn&#8217;t crack the Mainstream Rock charts until (really) the black album era.  Was AOR rock radio really afraid to play &#8220;heavier&#8221; rock acts like Metallica, AC/DC back in the day?</p>
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		<title>By: Thierry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thierry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8448144&quot;&gt;Al Shipley&lt;/a&gt;: I imagine you meant Brian &lt;i&gt;Johnson&lt;/i&gt;, not Jones.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One thing that might be helpful in this discussion would be knowing the band&#039;s royalty rates on downloads vs. actual cds. If what they get from iTunes is only a share of what they get from physical sales, why bother risking losing out on physical sales?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In any case, I agree that the argument that AC/DC&#039;s albums should be taken as a piece is a bit absurd, unless you want to see them as an endless flow of concept albums about sex and guitar riffs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8448144">Al Shipley</a>: I imagine you meant Brian <i>Johnson</i>, not Jones.</p>
<p>One thing that might be helpful in this discussion would be knowing the band&#8217;s royalty rates on downloads vs. actual cds. If what they get from iTunes is only a share of what they get from physical sales, why bother risking losing out on physical sales?</p>
<p>In any case, I agree that the argument that AC/DC&#8217;s albums should be taken as a piece is a bit absurd, unless you want to see them as an endless flow of concept albums about sex and guitar riffs.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Shipley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Shipley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/5066270/catchy-deeds-sold-dirt-cheap-angus-young-not-as-allergic-to-singles-as-he-lets-on#c8448211&quot;&gt;Figgsrock&lt;/A&gt;: Good point. I could use some of your radio guy commentary on my column, please feel free to chime in more in the future!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/5066270/catchy-deeds-sold-dirt-cheap-angus-young-not-as-allergic-to-singles-as-he-lets-on#c8448211">Figgsrock</a>: Good point. I could use some of your radio guy commentary on my column, please feel free to chime in more in the future!</p>
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		<title>By: Figgsrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Figgsrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;A very good piece, but as a former radio guy I must add one caveat. AC/DC tracks didn&#039;t get tons of rock radio airplay until the late 80s and early 90s. AOR was pretty agressive about its dayparting of songs back then, so many of their songs didn&#039;t get played until after 6 p.m. When active rock stations started springing up in the late 80s, they played AC/DC in every daypart, which caused old hertiage AORs to open up their own dayparting. When the station I worked at started playing &quot;Money Talks&quot; in a.m. drive, I knew a change was afoot.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good piece, but as a former radio guy I must add one caveat. AC/DC tracks didn&#8217;t get tons of rock radio airplay until the late 80s and early 90s. AOR was pretty agressive about its dayparting of songs back then, so many of their songs didn&#8217;t get played until after 6 p.m. When active rock stations started springing up in the late 80s, they played AC/DC in every daypart, which caused old hertiage AORs to open up their own dayparting. When the station I worked at started playing &#8220;Money Talks&#8221; in a.m. drive, I knew a change was afoot.</p>
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