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		<title>By: novice bot</title>
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		<dc:creator>novice bot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my band didn&#039;t get in, we&#039;re local, i don&#039;t get it.  we play constantly, sold out big venues (like joe&#039;s pub for example).  how do they decide this thing anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my band didn&#8217;t get in, we&#8217;re local, i don&#8217;t get it.  we play constantly, sold out big venues (like joe&#8217;s pub for example).  how do they decide this thing anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: CarsmileSteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarsmileSteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;please please tell me that no one in america has heard of scouting for girls*? you lucky lucky bastards...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;*they are corporate brit-emo-rock, like busted, if busted were SHIT&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please please tell me that no one in america has heard of scouting for girls*? you lucky lucky bastards&#8230;</p>
<p>*they are corporate brit-emo-rock, like busted, if busted were SHIT</p>
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		<title>By: BlissSister</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlissSister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8510318&quot;&gt;baobinga&lt;/a&gt;: Ha! No, I swear, I&#039;m good!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8510318">baobinga</a>: Ha! No, I swear, I&#8217;m good!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8509506&quot;&gt;BlissSister&lt;/a&gt;: or both! :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8509506">BlissSister</a>: or both! :)</p>
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		<title>By: cousinchris</title>
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		<dc:creator>cousinchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for posting this article. Reading the description, feel like Cousin Chris (cousinchrismusic dot com) might have made it in. Did not apply though cuz it seemed like a longshot for bands without the connections to get heard by the organizers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this article. Reading the description, feel like Cousin Chris (cousinchrismusic dot com) might have made it in. Did not apply though cuz it seemed like a longshot for bands without the connections to get heard by the organizers.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Jensen</title>
		<link>http://idolator.com/5067549/how-does-cmj-choose-which-bands-get-in-an-idolator-special-report/comment-page-1#comment-744222</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8521137&quot;&gt;Reidicus&lt;/a&gt;: Yeah, I know Sara Watkins now that you mention it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8521137">Reidicus</a>: Yeah, I know Sara Watkins now that you mention it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reidicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reidicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Of course, my &quot;do not recognize&quot; is different from yours, but a lot of the folks on the list you don&#039;t know (and I do) aren&#039;t necessarily the latest/greatest/hippest types who get lots of hyperventilating blog love. For example, Sasha Dobson, whom I adore, does a Brazilian-flavored take on singer/songwriter fare, with her boyfriend, Richard Julian, usually in the band or close by. (Her shows are also a good spot to catch Norah Jones blending into the crowd.) Uber hip? Probably not. But I like.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Others in a similar vein: Sara Watkins is (er, was) the fiddle-playing member of Nickel Creek. Swati is a singer/songwriter with a distinctive guitar style, similar to Kaki King.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, my &#8220;do not recognize&#8221; is different from yours, but a lot of the folks on the list you don&#8217;t know (and I do) aren&#8217;t necessarily the latest/greatest/hippest types who get lots of hyperventilating blog love. For example, Sasha Dobson, whom I adore, does a Brazilian-flavored take on singer/songwriter fare, with her boyfriend, Richard Julian, usually in the band or close by. (Her shows are also a good spot to catch Norah Jones blending into the crowd.) Uber hip? Probably not. But I like.</p>
<p>Others in a similar vein: Sara Watkins is (er, was) the fiddle-playing member of Nickel Creek. Swati is a singer/songwriter with a distinctive guitar style, similar to Kaki King.</p>
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		<title>By: BlissSister</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlissSister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8503156&quot;&gt;elvissinatra&lt;/a&gt;: I was one of the rejected...&lt;br&gt;
Either my music really sucks, or I am a soloist with no connections...hmm...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8503156">elvissinatra</a>: I was one of the rejected&#8230;<br />
Either my music really sucks, or I am a soloist with no connections&#8230;hmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Jensen</title>
		<link>http://idolator.com/5067549/how-does-cmj-choose-which-bands-get-in-an-idolator-special-report/comment-page-1#comment-744282</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8507705&quot;&gt;oneTee&lt;/a&gt;: Nope.  Never have, but, you know, I live somewhere with successful indie bands.  BURN!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8507705">oneTee</a>: Nope.  Never have, but, you know, I live somewhere with successful indie bands.  BURN!</p>
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		<title>By: Maura Johnston</title>
		<link>http://idolator.com/5067549/how-does-cmj-choose-which-bands-get-in-an-idolator-special-report/comment-page-1#comment-744292</link>
		<dc:creator>Maura Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8507705&quot;&gt;oneTee&lt;/a&gt;: Um, not everyone is subject to the New York media&#039;s tendencies toward overpromoting the mediocre self-floggers out there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8507705">oneTee</a>: Um, not everyone is subject to the New York media&#8217;s tendencies toward overpromoting the mediocre self-floggers out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe I missed it in the article, but I don&#039;t believe Matt listens to all the bands or makes all the decisions. A few months ago I remember receiving an unsolicited email application from CMJ where they were looking for help with the reviewing process. It seemed like it could be interesting task.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Other names to bold from the list above&lt;br&gt;
-sBACH: underwhelming side-project by Spencer Seim of Hella, released by Suicide Squeeze.&lt;br&gt;
-Skillz: ghostwriter for your favourite rappers, released the very solid &#039;Million Dollar Backpack&#039; album a few months ago.&lt;br&gt;
-Skyzoo: another great up-and-upcoming rapper.&lt;br&gt;
-Sole and the Skyrider Band: one of the many fantastic releases on Anticon Records this year.&lt;br&gt;
-Sylvie: Canadian band who just released a pretty enjoyable new album produced by J. Robbins (Jawbreaker).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I missed it in the article, but I don&#8217;t believe Matt listens to all the bands or makes all the decisions. A few months ago I remember receiving an unsolicited email application from CMJ where they were looking for help with the reviewing process. It seemed like it could be interesting task.</p>
<p>Other names to bold from the list above<br />
-sBACH: underwhelming side-project by Spencer Seim of Hella, released by Suicide Squeeze.<br />
-Skillz: ghostwriter for your favourite rappers, released the very solid &#8216;Million Dollar Backpack&#8217; album a few months ago.<br />
-Skyzoo: another great up-and-upcoming rapper.<br />
-Sole and the Skyrider Band: one of the many fantastic releases on Anticon Records this year.<br />
-Sylvie: Canadian band who just released a pretty enjoyable new album produced by J. Robbins (Jawbreaker).</p>
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		<title>By: noamjamski</title>
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		<dc:creator>noamjamski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8503156&quot;&gt;elvissinatra&lt;/a&gt;: Having been both an attendee and a performer at many CMJs there is virtually no foot traffic.  People with badges tend to plan out their showcases meticulously, bouncing from venue to venue.  The only hope you have of being an unknown and getting people to accidentally see your band is either general public who bought tix, or if you open for a band big enough that people get their early in fear of being turned away.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8503156">elvissinatra</a>: Having been both an attendee and a performer at many CMJs there is virtually no foot traffic.  People with badges tend to plan out their showcases meticulously, bouncing from venue to venue.  The only hope you have of being an unknown and getting people to accidentally see your band is either general public who bought tix, or if you open for a band big enough that people get their early in fear of being turned away.</p>
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		<title>By: oneTee</title>
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		<dc:creator>oneTee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;you haven&#039;t heard of Semi Precious Weapons?!?!?!?  really?!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you haven&#8217;t heard of Semi Precious Weapons?!?!?!?  really?!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;&quot;The Shiny Brights&quot; are an incredible indie band. You probably haven&#039;t heard of them because they are from australia and have flown over just for the event. get out and see them you will be impressed&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Shiny Brights&#8221; are an incredible indie band. You probably haven&#8217;t heard of them because they are from australia and have flown over just for the event. get out and see them you will be impressed</p>
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		<title>By: jfk1624</title>
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		<dc:creator>jfk1624</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/5067549/how-does-cmj-choose-which-bands-get-in-an-idolator-special-report#c8503233&quot;&gt;Lucas Jensen&lt;/A&gt;: I kinda figured that was the case and I didn&#039;t want to be an ass and point it out if it was a mistake, but it just didn&#039;t seem possible and I had to ask. I also have a fair amount of...affection for them. So, you know.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/5067549/how-does-cmj-choose-which-bands-get-in-an-idolator-special-report#c8503233">Lucas Jensen</a>: I kinda figured that was the case and I didn&#8217;t want to be an ass and point it out if it was a mistake, but it just didn&#8217;t seem possible and I had to ask. I also have a fair amount of&#8230;affection for them. So, you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Jensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8502891&quot;&gt;jfk1624&lt;/a&gt;: Haha.  I just missed them.  I totally know Saves the Day.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8503156&quot;&gt;elvissinatra&lt;/a&gt;: None of my bands has ever made it in (well, with me in the band at the time).  Maybe I&#039;m cursed, but we&#039;re not totally crappy, I swear.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8502891">jfk1624</a>: Haha.  I just missed them.  I totally know Saves the Day.</p>
<p>@<a href="#c8503156">elvissinatra</a>: None of my bands has ever made it in (well, with me in the band at the time).  Maybe I&#8217;m cursed, but we&#8217;re not totally crappy, I swear.</p>
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		<title>By: elvissinatra</title>
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		<dc:creator>elvissinatra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;What percentage of bands that apply to CMJ get turned down? My guess: less than 10%. I just assumed they let everybody play.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;When we started our record label, we took our two bands to CMJ and they were very cool and gave us a &quot;mini showcase&quot; on a weekend night with a pretty cool headliner: Drums and Tuba.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That said, the venue was in Brooklyn (the Hook), and we got absolutely no foot traffic, and the people who showed up all stood outside and smoked outside while our bands played. We sold a couple of CDs and t-shirts (literally, like two). It was a fun trip, but totally pointless.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Not sure if it made any difference that we purchased a $500 ad in the guidebook.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also, CMJ&#039;s publicity guy has the best name in the business: Johnny Chiba.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What percentage of bands that apply to CMJ get turned down? My guess: less than 10%. I just assumed they let everybody play.</p>
<p>When we started our record label, we took our two bands to CMJ and they were very cool and gave us a &#8220;mini showcase&#8221; on a weekend night with a pretty cool headliner: Drums and Tuba.</p>
<p>That said, the venue was in Brooklyn (the Hook), and we got absolutely no foot traffic, and the people who showed up all stood outside and smoked outside while our bands played. We sold a couple of CDs and t-shirts (literally, like two). It was a fun trip, but totally pointless.</p>
<p>Not sure if it made any difference that we purchased a $500 ad in the guidebook.</p>
<p>Also, CMJ&#8217;s publicity guy has the best name in the business: Johnny Chiba.</p>
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		<title>By: TimmyGUNZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimmyGUNZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was just about to write the same thing. Saves the Day is probably one of the biggest bands playing CMJ in this list.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just about to write the same thing. Saves the Day is probably one of the biggest bands playing CMJ in this list.</p>
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		<title>By: jfk1624</title>
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		<dc:creator>jfk1624</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;I&#039;m kinda shocked you didn&#039;t know Saves The Day? They&#039;ve been around forever it seems...&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kinda shocked you didn&#8217;t know Saves The Day? They&#8217;ve been around forever it seems&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: noamjamski</title>
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		<dc:creator>noamjamski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s one other angle that isn&#039;t mentioned here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is getting in via the club.  I&#039;ll keep my story reasonably anonymous, although it wouldn&#039;t be TOO hard to figure out if someone cared.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Getting in is half the battle.  The other half is getting in on a good bill.  First year my band got into CMJ we had an awful showcase at a club no one who has been in NYC more than 5 minutes would EVER go to.  The next year we hooked up with a band bigger than us who REQUESTED we be on their showcase and we got a much better show, although in one of the Knit&#039;s smaller subterranean rooms.  At this point we were playing a lot at one of the hipper, consistently sold out East side venues where I had a professional friendship with the booker.  The last year we played CMJ before breaking up he pulled us onto a showcase BEFORE CMJ formally accepted us.  Who knows if at that point we would have still gotten in otherwise, but yes clubs can dictate to CMJ within reason who will be showcasing there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We were definitely one of the &quot;in between&quot; bands Matt McDonald, who we dealt with back then around the turn of the century, talks about.  One year we got in, but were orphaned without a showcase to hook up with and he ended up shafting us on a show.  But he was classy enough to give us all free badges for making the cut anyway.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s one other angle that isn&#8217;t mentioned here.</p>
<p>That is getting in via the club.  I&#8217;ll keep my story reasonably anonymous, although it wouldn&#8217;t be TOO hard to figure out if someone cared.</p>
<p>Getting in is half the battle.  The other half is getting in on a good bill.  First year my band got into CMJ we had an awful showcase at a club no one who has been in NYC more than 5 minutes would EVER go to.  The next year we hooked up with a band bigger than us who REQUESTED we be on their showcase and we got a much better show, although in one of the Knit&#8217;s smaller subterranean rooms.  At this point we were playing a lot at one of the hipper, consistently sold out East side venues where I had a professional friendship with the booker.  The last year we played CMJ before breaking up he pulled us onto a showcase BEFORE CMJ formally accepted us.  Who knows if at that point we would have still gotten in otherwise, but yes clubs can dictate to CMJ within reason who will be showcasing there.</p>
<p>We were definitely one of the &#8220;in between&#8221; bands Matt McDonald, who we dealt with back then around the turn of the century, talks about.  One year we got in, but were orphaned without a showcase to hook up with and he ended up shafting us on a show.  But he was classy enough to give us all free badges for making the cut anyway.</p>
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