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	<title>Comments on: Axl Rose And Kanye West To Get In The Retail Ring</title>
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		<title>By: MrStarhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrStarhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c8830771&quot;&gt;2ironic4u&lt;/a&gt;: Hoobastank&#039;s next release doesn&#039;t count as a bomb, since the last album bombed. This is just a last-gasp contract-completion album.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8830771">2ironic4u</a>: Hoobastank&#8217;s next release doesn&#8217;t count as a bomb, since the last album bombed. This is just a last-gasp contract-completion album.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Shipley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Shipley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;Honestly I think the only unreliable variables in &lt;I&gt;Chinese Democracy&lt;/I&gt;&#039;s sucess right now are A) whether a Best Buy exclusive works as well as Wal-Mart exclusives worked for AC/DC and the Eagles, and B) whether the publicity machine ramps any more in the next 2 weeks than it already has (i.e. any high profile interviews or television appearances from Axl, or a video release). As it stands, I think its first week sales are going to be pretty major (like 500k at the absolute lowest, perhaps way more), and of course it&#039;ll taper off, but still end up a big fat multi-platinum success.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly I think the only unreliable variables in <i>Chinese Democracy</i>&#8216;s sucess right now are A) whether a Best Buy exclusive works as well as Wal-Mart exclusives worked for AC/DC and the Eagles, and B) whether the publicity machine ramps any more in the next 2 weeks than it already has (i.e. any high profile interviews or television appearances from Axl, or a video release). As it stands, I think its first week sales are going to be pretty major (like 500k at the absolute lowest, perhaps way more), and of course it&#8217;ll taper off, but still end up a big fat multi-platinum success.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Molanphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Molanphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You (Maura) and I talked about this a few weeks ago, but let me just get this down.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Long story short, the key question here is: &lt;b&gt;Are pent-up GnR fans obsessed enough to get the album on day one?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Sunday release means &lt;i&gt;Chinese Democracy&lt;/i&gt; catches the last day of the tracking week for the charts. For the record, Axl&#039;s competition that week is the stuff that came out the Tuesday before, which will have the benefit of the normal six days&#039; worth of first-week sales: the biggest are Nickelback, Beyoncé and David Cook.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So the first question is, will GnR&#039;s one day eclipse the near-week&#039;s worth of sales those others will pull? That alone is hard to answer. Other off-cycle blockbuster releases have included the last two Metallica joints, which did the trick but with three days&#039; worth of sales each; and several Eminem discs, including &lt;i&gt;The Eminem Show&lt;/i&gt; (arguably the first-ever post-leak album), which topped the charts with a single Sunday&#039;s worth of sales in May 2002 -- but that&#039;s Em at the absolute mega-zenith of his popularity. Plus, he did it back then with ~300K on that one day -- very impressive and more than enough to top the charts in the late spring, but in late November just before turkey day? Axl&#039;s gonna have to do better than that to top Nickelback, who will surely roll at least 500K.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In short, unless &lt;i&gt;CD&lt;/i&gt; does something extraordinary, &lt;b&gt;we may be looking at the odd PR embarrassment of GnR&#039;s long-awaited comeback album debuting someplace other than No. 1.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then we&#039;re left with the question of what the album does in &quot;week two,&quot; which is really days 2 through 8 in its release cycle. Did the rabid fans all buy &lt;i&gt;CD&lt;/i&gt; on day one? Were they in church? Are they all older than they were in the days of &lt;i&gt;Use Your Illusion&lt;/i&gt;, with mortgages and kids and minivans, and they won&#039;t buy on day 1 but will buy on day 6, i.e. Black Friday, when they finally get to the mall? Okay, let&#039;s say they do: how big is that second week: 800K? Would that top Kanye if he comes close to the totals rolled by his last two debuts? (~860K and ~950K, for those who need reminding.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In short (again), there&#039;s a scenario by which GnR tops the chart in both weeks, and there&#039;s a more mind-blowing scenario in which it sells very, very well in its first eight days &lt;b&gt;and still falls short of No. 1 in both of its first two chart weeks&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bottom line, this is near-impossible to predict, and we&#039;ll have to continually recalibrate expectations, starting with the moment the GnR-Nickelback battle is over.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You (Maura) and I talked about this a few weeks ago, but let me just get this down.</p>
<p>Long story short, the key question here is: <b>Are pent-up GnR fans obsessed enough to get the album on day one?</b></p>
<p>The Sunday release means <i>Chinese Democracy</i> catches the last day of the tracking week for the charts. For the record, Axl&#8217;s competition that week is the stuff that came out the Tuesday before, which will have the benefit of the normal six days&#8217; worth of first-week sales: the biggest are Nickelback, Beyoncé and David Cook.</p>
<p>So the first question is, will GnR&#8217;s one day eclipse the near-week&#8217;s worth of sales those others will pull? That alone is hard to answer. Other off-cycle blockbuster releases have included the last two Metallica joints, which did the trick but with three days&#8217; worth of sales each; and several Eminem discs, including <i>The Eminem Show</i> (arguably the first-ever post-leak album), which topped the charts with a single Sunday&#8217;s worth of sales in May 2002 &#8212; but that&#8217;s Em at the absolute mega-zenith of his popularity. Plus, he did it back then with ~300K on that one day &#8212; very impressive and more than enough to top the charts in the late spring, but in late November just before turkey day? Axl&#8217;s gonna have to do better than that to top Nickelback, who will surely roll at least 500K.</p>
<p>In short, unless <i>CD</i> does something extraordinary, <b>we may be looking at the odd PR embarrassment of GnR&#8217;s long-awaited comeback album debuting someplace other than No. 1.</b></p>
<p>Then we&#8217;re left with the question of what the album does in &#8220;week two,&#8221; which is really days 2 through 8 in its release cycle. Did the rabid fans all buy <i>CD</i> on day one? Were they in church? Are they all older than they were in the days of <i>Use Your Illusion</i>, with mortgages and kids and minivans, and they won&#8217;t buy on day 1 but will buy on day 6, i.e. Black Friday, when they finally get to the mall? Okay, let&#8217;s say they do: how big is that second week: 800K? Would that top Kanye if he comes close to the totals rolled by his last two debuts? (~860K and ~950K, for those who need reminding.)</p>
<p>In short (again), there&#8217;s a scenario by which GnR tops the chart in both weeks, and there&#8217;s a more mind-blowing scenario in which it sells very, very well in its first eight days <b>and still falls short of No. 1 in both of its first two chart weeks</b>.</p>
<p>Bottom line, this is near-impossible to predict, and we&#8217;ll have to continually recalibrate expectations, starting with the moment the GnR-Nickelback battle is over.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I predict that this album will bomb (G&#039;N&#039;R).  It will still sell 1-2 million copies based on the brand name alone but, if the first single is the best they can do in terms of a single, I really doubt this will catch on.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Other rock bombs that are on the way soon: Hoobastank, All-American Rejects, Fall Out Boy (sorry to say, but it&#039;s not going to reach the heights of the previous two releases) and, though it&#039;s already out, Hinder.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I predict that this album will bomb (G&#8217;N'R).  It will still sell 1-2 million copies based on the brand name alone but, if the first single is the best they can do in terms of a single, I really doubt this will catch on.</p>
<p>Other rock bombs that are on the way soon: Hoobastank, All-American Rejects, Fall Out Boy (sorry to say, but it&#8217;s not going to reach the heights of the previous two releases) and, though it&#8217;s already out, Hinder.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Shipley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Shipley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;If I buy either of these albums, I&#039;m going to regret the purchase about halfway through the first listen. At the very least, I&#039;ll probably download or wait to buy Kanye&#039;s, since I don&#039;t to help the first week sales vindicate the terrible artistic direction he&#039;s going in.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I buy either of these albums, I&#8217;m going to regret the purchase about halfway through the first listen. At the very least, I&#8217;ll probably download or wait to buy Kanye&#8217;s, since I don&#8217;t to help the first week sales vindicate the terrible artistic direction he&#8217;s going in.</p>
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