Comments on: More “Chinese Democracy” Sales Numbers: The Answer Is As Mysterious As You’d Expect

By: Hyman Decent

Hyman Decent — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:57:37 +0000

@Murk, Lucas Jensen: But you can (or at least, could have) listened to an official stream of Chinese Democracy before buying it.

By: Murk

Murk — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:54:46 +0000

@Mr.Black: Oh man, no WAY am I listening to those lyrics again. Come on, I don't know who your comment is directed at, but I grew up listening to RECORDS, ten or twelve times in a row. It's actually a simple matter of education, discernment, & aversion to corn: these lyrics are purple, overwrought, soggy high-school poetry. It's embarrassing? Appetite? Hell, this ain't Bat out of Hell: II.

By: Lucas Jensen

Lucas Jensen — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:57:28 +0000

@Nutzrpoppin: I wish I saw more Out of the Blue's used! I want that new double disc reissue. I'd vote for REM's Monster as one of them, along with Songs of Faith and Devotion Live. This WOULD be a great chart!

By: Mr. Black @ Sanctuary93.com

Mr. Black @ Sanctuary93.com — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:03:37 +0000

Chinese Democracy is not Appetite… It’s not meant to be either. What it is, is the kind of album you need to listed to, in entirety, multiple times. On the third round or so, you then go “Oh, now I get it”. Axel didn’t write it for a singles based, one download & gone, ADHD modern market. It’s a full ride with walls of sound and cutting lyrics… Yea, I miss Slash’s drunken blues…but short of that, Chinese Democracy intoxicates in it’s own right.

By: Nutzrpoppin

Nutzrpoppin — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:46:51 +0000

I think this album will be the new ELO’s Out Of The Blue as the most common title in used record stores. If it was possible, I would love to see that kind of chart.

By: Lucas Jensen

Lucas Jensen — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:38:54 +0000

@Murk: Thank you. The record is a real turd. I totally agree, and I am pretty anti-downloading.

By: Murk

Murk — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:42:28 +0000

Not worth arguing with people who can’t spell “appetite.” Or who spell “shit” with an asterisk. Or who think “selling out” is an coherent concept, particularly in the case of a multimillionaire.

By: Murk

Murk — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:06:56 +0000

Not that I understand why anyone would listen to Chinese Democracy more than once if at all, but it does supply one of the cases where illegal downloading is not only defensible but ethically necessitated.

By: Lucas Jensen

Lucas Jensen — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 03:35:04 +0000

@40love: Dude, I listened to Appetite on the way to Church Camp when I was 12. I've been around the block with Axl and Co., but I parted ways with the November Rain bathos of much of the Illusions. Unfortunately, that seems to be half of Chinese Democracy.

By: DocStrange

DocStrange — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:25:25 +0000

@juiceandgin: You know, I only listened to the album once, the day I bought it. Then I turned my attention to my copy of the new Los Campesinos! album (which even though I downloaded it when it leaked, I still bought it because I believe that those who make worthwhile albums should be rewarded with an a physical purchase. The only exclusion is of course Chinese Democracy which I bought just to say that I have it and it came out before the universe implodes).

Also, yes, I just said that a group of kids from Wales made a better record than Axl did, and all of the songs on We Are Beautiful, We Are Doomed were initially intended as B-sides for future singles and recorded in a week.

By: Maura Johnston

Maura Johnston — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:22:17 +0000

that's only for riaa certification, the double-counting. chris molanphy has written about it in the past:

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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:09:18 +0000

@Lucas Jensen:

I heard 2 songs worth hearing again..."If The World" and "Scraped" - just my thoughts. I would buy these cuts from iTunes when available, but I wouldn't buy the whole record.

By: Lax Danja House

Lax Danja House — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:08:17 +0000

Only if they’re over 100 minutes or something like that.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:03:18 +0000

This album is definitely not a turd. I partied to “APETITE” back in the day,alot of these kids were still sucking bottles(of milk) when Axl & the boys were selling out stadiums. Axl has stuck to his guns over the last 14 tears(ha…. “14 YEARS”).He didn’t sell out just to get “something” released. PROPS to Axl for probably being the “realest” artist out there.He had to deal with so much sh*t forever. This album should put GNR back at the top. To the haters… get a clue.. try to be informed,not just opinionated. Did you expect a cookie-cutter album of “APETITE”, or “USE YOUR ILLUSION”?

By: Nunya B

Nunya B — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:58:48 +0000

Wait, is Billboard still counting double-album sales as 2? Because Sasha’s going to put up great numbers if Billboard rules haven’t changed.

By: doublewhiskycokenoice

doublewhiskycokenoice — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:07:50 +0000

I suppose this handcuffing of the Billboard chart is what Shackler’s Revenge is truly about?

By: Chris Molanphy

Chris Molanphy — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:57:56 +0000

This is annoying — Best Buy is stacking the deck chart-position-wise — but it does explain why Kanye elected to drop his new one on Monday instead of Tuesday; he needs as many days in the tracking week as possible to try to keep up with GnR’s total.