Comments on: The Record Business Celebrates The Bad Kind Of Black Friday http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday Music News, Reviews, and Gossip on Idolator.com Sat, 26 May 2012 20:42:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782492 Anonymous Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:15:41 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782492 <p>As far as Guns goes, they should have sold the album everywhere. This exclusive crap is not good for anybody except giant corporations. The reason AC/DC sold as well as it did, is because their fanbase is basically the typical Wal-Mart shopper(read between the lines). Believe it or not, most rock fans would rather buy their music from a local music store or a small chain, even though the few stores left are struggling because of this great economy. Downloading isn't as much of a factor for people over 25(Guns fanbase) in most rural areas of this country.</p> As far as Guns goes, they should have sold the album everywhere. This exclusive crap is not good for anybody except giant corporations. The reason AC/DC sold as well as it did, is because their fanbase is basically the typical Wal-Mart shopper(read between the lines). Believe it or not, most rock fans would rather buy their music from a local music store or a small chain, even though the few stores left are struggling because of this great economy. Downloading isn’t as much of a factor for people over 25(Guns fanbase) in most rural areas of this country.

]]> By: LiquidHeaven http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782502 LiquidHeaven Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:36:25 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782502 <P>@<A href="http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday#c9212564">Lucas Jensen</A>: I think Duff wrote many of the arrangements on all the albums.</P> @Lucas Jensen: I think Duff wrote many of the arrangements on all the albums.

]]> By: LiquidHeaven http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782512 LiquidHeaven Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:33:46 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782512 <P>Not a lot of people/bands make something as great as appetite.</P> Not a lot of people/bands make something as great as appetite.

]]> By: Chris N. http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782522 Chris N. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:23:06 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782522 <p>No idea how reliable it is, but the 'Appetite' Wikipedia page has a specific list of who wrote what (the whole band is credited in the liners, as we all well know):</p> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appetite_for_destruction">[en.wikipedia.org]</a></p> No idea how reliable it is, but the ‘Appetite’ Wikipedia page has a specific list of who wrote what (the whole band is credited in the liners, as we all well know):

[en.wikipedia.org]

]]> By: Lucas Jensen http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782532 Lucas Jensen Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:09:41 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782532 <p>@<a href="#c9210415">How do I say this ... THROWDINI!</a>: And how much of Appetite and Lies are even Axl? This is a bad analogy, but I almost thought that Axl leading GnR was kind of like Roger Daltrey leading the Who by himself (which might actually happen in our lifetimes). It was my understanding that he was actually a small part of the songwriting equation early on.</p> @How do I say this … THROWDINI!: And how much of Appetite and Lies are even Axl? This is a bad analogy, but I almost thought that Axl leading GnR was kind of like Roger Daltrey leading the Who by himself (which might actually happen in our lifetimes). It was my understanding that he was actually a small part of the songwriting equation early on.

]]> By: How do I say this ... THROWDINI! http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782542 How do I say this ... THROWDINI! Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:55:58 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782542 <P>@<A href="http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday#c9206595">sydbarrett05</A>: <I>An insider said: "Everyone knows Axl is a bit of a maverick genius and won't do anything he doesn't want to do.</I></P> <P>I'm with you. This comment really surprised me. I mean, I liked <I>Appetite</I> and a few of the songs off the <I>Use Your Illusion</I> discs, but is there anyone out there who really thinks Axl is a musical/maverick genius? <I>Appetite</I> was really good, great even, but a lot of bands put out really good albums at least once. That doesn't make the lead singer a genius. I guess people (read: the record company) must have had to think so, or else they would not have kept funding the record, but really, Axl is a lot of things, but genius?</P> @sydbarrett05: An insider said: “Everyone knows Axl is a bit of a maverick genius and won’t do anything he doesn’t want to do.

I’m with you. This comment really surprised me. I mean, I liked Appetite and a few of the songs off the Use Your Illusion discs, but is there anyone out there who really thinks Axl is a musical/maverick genius? Appetite was really good, great even, but a lot of bands put out really good albums at least once. That doesn’t make the lead singer a genius. I guess people (read: the record company) must have had to think so, or else they would not have kept funding the record, but really, Axl is a lot of things, but genius?

]]> By: Eugene Langley http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782552 Eugene Langley Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:26:42 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782552 <p>"Robocop" is awesome.</p> “Robocop” is awesome.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782562 Anonymous Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:01:45 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782562 <p>@<a href="#c9206262">Al Shipley</a>: I think there's something to be said about releasing follow-ups too quickly. While it's annoying for fans to wait 3 years for your latest opus, if you release a follow-up within a year you just don't have the interest you initially had. Case in point, if Coldplay releases a new album next year, they won't see half the sales Viva saw because they've been in the public eye consistently for the past year.</p> @Al Shipley: I think there’s something to be said about releasing follow-ups too quickly. While it’s annoying for fans to wait 3 years for your latest opus, if you release a follow-up within a year you just don’t have the interest you initially had. Case in point, if Coldplay releases a new album next year, they won’t see half the sales Viva saw because they’ve been in the public eye consistently for the past year.

]]> By: Maura Johnston http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782572 Maura Johnston Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:58:02 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782572 <p>@<a href="#c9207780">westartedthis</a>: mission accomplished!</p> @westartedthis: mission accomplished!

]]> By: westartedthis http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782582 westartedthis Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:17:18 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782582 <p>that picture makes it look like axl and kanye are duetting. which is now something i really want to happen.</p> that picture makes it look like axl and kanye are duetting. which is now something i really want to happen.

]]> By: Butch Huskey http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782592 Butch Huskey Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:01:29 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782592 <p>@<a href="#c9206788">Chris N.</a>:</p> <p>exactly ... in the economy people who remember Guns N Roses aren't going into Best Buy ... but they are in Wal-Mart and if they'll throw a Journey or AC/DC cd in the cart, they probably would have done the same for GnR</p> <p>i wonder how it did in Canada which doesnt allow corporate exclusives?</p> @Chris N.:

exactly … in the economy people who remember Guns N Roses aren’t going into Best Buy … but they are in Wal-Mart and if they’ll throw a Journey or AC/DC cd in the cart, they probably would have done the same for GnR

i wonder how it did in Canada which doesnt allow corporate exclusives?

]]> By: Lucas Jensen http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782602 Lucas Jensen Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:00:12 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782602 <p>@<a href="#c9206788">Chris N.</a>: I think you are totally right there. Best Buy barely stocks CDs anymore. At least Wal-Mart gives them decent-enough real estate.</p> <p>And the record execs are being dishonest here. It's not like Axl is the JD Salinger of rock and roll. The guy has played shows and made public appearances in the last decade or so. If he was out there pounding the pavement in halcyon venues like E! and Access Hollywood, I think it would lessen the mystique of the record a bit. Plus, a lot of people got the leaks a while back and said "pass!" That's the REAL reason.</p> @Chris N.: I think you are totally right there. Best Buy barely stocks CDs anymore. At least Wal-Mart gives them decent-enough real estate.

And the record execs are being dishonest here. It’s not like Axl is the JD Salinger of rock and roll. The guy has played shows and made public appearances in the last decade or so. If he was out there pounding the pavement in halcyon venues like E! and Access Hollywood, I think it would lessen the mystique of the record a bit. Plus, a lot of people got the leaks a while back and said “pass!” That’s the REAL reason.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782612 Anonymous Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:48:28 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782612 <p>@<a href="#c9206280">Maura Johnston</a>: Figured you were just bumming over the low sales.</p> @Maura Johnston: Figured you were just bumming over the low sales.

]]> By: Chris N. http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782622 Chris N. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:40:54 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782622 <p>Best Buy wasn't the venue for 'Chinese Democracy.' It would have done twice those numbers at Wal-Mart.</p> Best Buy wasn’t the venue for ‘Chinese Democracy.’ It would have done twice those numbers at Wal-Mart.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782632 Anonymous Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:34:07 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782632 <p>"Maverick Genius"???<br> That kinda talk is reserved for people like Scott Walker...</p> <p>"Out-of-touch Primadonna"</p> <p>Now that is more fitting...</p> “Maverick Genius”???
That kinda talk is reserved for people like Scott Walker…

“Out-of-touch Primadonna”

Now that is more fitting…

]]> By: Maura Johnston http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782642 Maura Johnston Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:22:22 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782642 <p>@<a href="#c9206015">2ironic4u</a>: sigh, it's too early :(</p> @2ironic4u: sigh, it’s too early :(

]]> By: Al Shipley http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782652 Al Shipley Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:21:40 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782652 <P>The Axl press blackout could've worked in CD's favor if this was 5 years ago and there weren't tons of advance leaks. Once the music was out there he should've just done the big videos and TV appearances and everything. I get the feeling he was more fed up with the long process than anyone else and doesn't really care anymore.</P> <P>The Kanye album was never going to be the blockbuster his previous ones were, but once he decided he needed to put it out in the 4th quarter of course the label and everyone else half-expected it to be. Those first week numbers were total best case scenario for him.</P> The Axl press blackout could’ve worked in CD’s favor if this was 5 years ago and there weren’t tons of advance leaks. Once the music was out there he should’ve just done the big videos and TV appearances and everything. I get the feeling he was more fed up with the long process than anyone else and doesn’t really care anymore.

The Kanye album was never going to be the blockbuster his previous ones were, but once he decided he needed to put it out in the 4th quarter of course the label and everyone else half-expected it to be. Those first week numbers were total best case scenario for him.

]]> By: JohnOO http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782662 JohnOO Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:16:29 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782662 <p>@<a href="#c9206015">2ironic4u</a>: <br> Must be tuff bean perfect.</p> @2ironic4u:
Must be tuff bean perfect.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/5100788/the-record-business-celebrates-the-bad-kind-of-black-friday/comment-page-1#comment-782672 Anonymous Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:09:50 +0000 http://53626fec0dd83c27cb7b221571f4fb00#comment-782672 <p>"because he DIDN'T doing enough press for the one album."</p> “because he DIDN’T doing enough press for the one album.”

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