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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 06:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just want to say, I love Cut Copy, and love love love that In Ghost Colours (my personal album of the year) scored so high, especially above the (somewhat overrated imo) Hercules and Love Affair. And although HaLA beat cut copy for the #1 single, I was happy with cut copy scoring two high spots on the top singles/tracks list.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[mini-rant] About pfork&#039;s &quot;top tracks&quot; methodology...there is a problem there. They say they are now looking at any TRACKS, not just singles. but then how can they chart songs that were released in 2007 and only became SINGLES this year? That doesn&#039;t make any sense. &quot;Flashing Lights,&quot; I&#039;m looking at you. Especially because my friends and I (and maybe pretty much everyone?) thought flashing lights was amazing back when Graduation came out last year. It was one of my favorite tracks of 2007 (but then so were Stronger and Can&#039;t Tell Me Nothin). did pfork just miss it? [/rant]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;oh, and f*** fleet foxes. that shit is boring.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to say, I love Cut Copy, and love love love that In Ghost Colours (my personal album of the year) scored so high, especially above the (somewhat overrated imo) Hercules and Love Affair. And although HaLA beat cut copy for the #1 single, I was happy with cut copy scoring two high spots on the top singles/tracks list.</p>
<p>[mini-rant] About pfork&#8217;s &#8220;top tracks&#8221; methodology&#8230;there is a problem there. They say they are now looking at any TRACKS, not just singles. but then how can they chart songs that were released in 2007 and only became SINGLES this year? That doesn&#8217;t make any sense. &#8220;Flashing Lights,&#8221; I&#8217;m looking at you. Especially because my friends and I (and maybe pretty much everyone?) thought flashing lights was amazing back when Graduation came out last year. It was one of my favorite tracks of 2007 (but then so were Stronger and Can&#8217;t Tell Me Nothin). did pfork just miss it? [/rant]</p>
<p>oh, and f*** fleet foxes. that shit is boring.</p>
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		<title>By: mhulot</title>
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		<dc:creator>mhulot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 05:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe it&#039;s not surprising, maybe there&#039;s something vaguely annoying about Pitchfork&#039;s general tone (in all things, not just the list), etc. - maybe, but, on the other hand, this is one of the better lists I&#039;ve seen so far, and if not exactly adventurous it is relatively diverse (so happy to see Erykah Badu up there, even if I&#039;m baffled how anyone could prefer the Fleet Foxes to Badu&#039;s new one... I&#039;m not exactly a FF hater, and they&#039;re certainly preferable to other recent country-tinged bearded critical darlings from Seattle I could name, but don&#039;t hear much to get excited about in the songs I&#039;ve heard). And Pitchfork does stand by its convictions (they probably have more unique-ish picks on their list than most others, not counting lists made by individual critics, who are naturally more eclectically-inclined than grouped lists), which is kind of admirable even if you find those convictions to be occasionally head-scratching.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Basically, what I&#039;m implying without really making much of an effort to mount an actual argument is that Pitchfork is, among the aboveground publications devoted to writing about and reviewing new music, one of the better music pub&#039;s out there. And I do think that the quality of the writing and the thoughtfulness of the opinions expressed has consistently improved over the past few years. Given the current state of music writing and the presence of much more virulent annoyances out there (Hey Stereogum! How&#039;s it going?), Pitchfork is, on balance, a good thing. And, again, I like the list. But, seriously, Fleet Foxes over Portishead or Badu... really?!? And I know they&#039;re reissues but will somebody please give Steinski and Franco some love. Please?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s not surprising, maybe there&#8217;s something vaguely annoying about Pitchfork&#8217;s general tone (in all things, not just the list), etc. &#8211; maybe, but, on the other hand, this is one of the better lists I&#8217;ve seen so far, and if not exactly adventurous it is relatively diverse (so happy to see Erykah Badu up there, even if I&#8217;m baffled how anyone could prefer the Fleet Foxes to Badu&#8217;s new one&#8230; I&#8217;m not exactly a FF hater, and they&#8217;re certainly preferable to other recent country-tinged bearded critical darlings from Seattle I could name, but don&#8217;t hear much to get excited about in the songs I&#8217;ve heard). And Pitchfork does stand by its convictions (they probably have more unique-ish picks on their list than most others, not counting lists made by individual critics, who are naturally more eclectically-inclined than grouped lists), which is kind of admirable even if you find those convictions to be occasionally head-scratching.</p>
<p>Basically, what I&#8217;m implying without really making much of an effort to mount an actual argument is that Pitchfork is, among the aboveground publications devoted to writing about and reviewing new music, one of the better music pub&#8217;s out there. And I do think that the quality of the writing and the thoughtfulness of the opinions expressed has consistently improved over the past few years. Given the current state of music writing and the presence of much more virulent annoyances out there (Hey Stereogum! How&#8217;s it going?), Pitchfork is, on balance, a good thing. And, again, I like the list. But, seriously, Fleet Foxes over Portishead or Badu&#8230; really?!? And I know they&#8217;re reissues but will somebody please give Steinski and Franco some love. Please?</p>
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		<title>By: AL</title>
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		<dc:creator>AL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c9598867&quot;&gt;sofatruck&lt;/a&gt;: ehh, i meant more in the sense of having an informed critical opinion, as opposed to just liking/disliking something. i don&#039;t understand all the negativity directed toward the album in the comments, but maybe it&#039;s because they know something i don&#039;t, like that what CC is doing has been done before, but better. or that it&#039;s extremely easy to do so long as you have wealthy parents willing to buy you a mac book. etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(and i don&#039;t mean to imply that cultivated critical opinions necessarily exist on a higher plane than basic likes/dislikes. i personally enjoy the CC album, and if gaining knowledge about the genre means losing that pleasure i get from listening to it, i&#039;m not sure that&#039;s a positive outcome.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c9598867">sofatruck</a>: ehh, i meant more in the sense of having an informed critical opinion, as opposed to just liking/disliking something. i don&#8217;t understand all the negativity directed toward the album in the comments, but maybe it&#8217;s because they know something i don&#8217;t, like that what CC is doing has been done before, but better. or that it&#8217;s extremely easy to do so long as you have wealthy parents willing to buy you a mac book. etc.</p>
<p>(and i don&#8217;t mean to imply that cultivated critical opinions necessarily exist on a higher plane than basic likes/dislikes. i personally enjoy the CC album, and if gaining knowledge about the genre means losing that pleasure i get from listening to it, i&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s a positive outcome.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c9597806&quot;&gt;AL&lt;/a&gt;: who says &#039;knowing&#039; about XYZ genre is a prerequisite for liking something.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c9597806">AL</a>: who says &#8216;knowing&#8217; about XYZ genre is a prerequisite for liking something.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fleet Foxes is a pretty safe but unexciting choice, for a online magazine that claims to be the flag bearer of underground music.  Happy to so the ridiculous backlash against Vampire Weekend is ceasing and for the high placement of Portishead, No Age and the Erykah Badu albums.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And thank god there is no Gaslight Anthem.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fleet Foxes is a pretty safe but unexciting choice, for a online magazine that claims to be the flag bearer of underground music.  Happy to so the ridiculous backlash against Vampire Weekend is ceasing and for the high placement of Portishead, No Age and the Erykah Badu albums.</p>
<p>And thank god there is no Gaslight Anthem.</p>
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		<title>By: Maura Johnston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maura Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 03:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c9597599&quot;&gt;Freakytrigger&lt;/a&gt;: hi tom!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;yeah, you know, i think a lot of the people who are like &#039;OMG PITCHFORK GAVE THIS A 7.1 IN APRIL HOW CAN IT BE GOOD NOW&#039; are forgetting (intentionally or not?) the whole idea of the &#039;grower.&#039; shoot, the hercules &amp; love affair album was one of those for me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;of course this could get into a whole discussion of whether the internet allows for records to grow on you etc etc.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c9597599">Freakytrigger</a>: hi tom!</p>
<p>yeah, you know, i think a lot of the people who are like &#8216;OMG PITCHFORK GAVE THIS A 7.1 IN APRIL HOW CAN IT BE GOOD NOW&#8217; are forgetting (intentionally or not?) the whole idea of the &#8216;grower.&#8217; shoot, the hercules &amp; love affair album was one of those for me.</p>
<p>of course this could get into a whole discussion of whether the internet allows for records to grow on you etc etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Halfwit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Halfwit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c9597599&quot;&gt;Freakytrigger&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;i&gt;animated .gif of jon stewart fanning himself with flashing &quot;Oh my God&quot; text.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c9589050&quot;&gt;Nunya B&lt;/a&gt;: I&#039;m sorry. I love &lt;i&gt;Made in the Dark&lt;/i&gt; so hard it&#039;s a little scary.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Without piggybacking on Stereogum&#039;s post-mortem (heaven forbid), I really agree with p&#039;fork&#039;s analysis of Vampire Weekend. I settled on a different quote than the stereogum did, however:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;At the end of the day, all they&#039;ve done is craft an album of crisp, endlessly replayable guitar pop songs with expressive, detail-heavy lyrics and charming music that serves as a welcome antidote to today&#039;s more overly compressed sounds. How dare they.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c9597599">Freakytrigger</a>: <i>animated .gif of jon stewart fanning himself with flashing &#8220;Oh my God&#8221; text.</i></p>
<p>@<a href="#c9589050">Nunya B</a>: I&#8217;m sorry. I love <i>Made in the Dark</i> so hard it&#8217;s a little scary.</p>
<p>Without piggybacking on Stereogum&#8217;s post-mortem (heaven forbid), I really agree with p&#8217;fork&#8217;s analysis of Vampire Weekend. I settled on a different quote than the stereogum did, however:</p>
<p><i>At the end of the day, all they&#8217;ve done is craft an album of crisp, endlessly replayable guitar pop songs with expressive, detail-heavy lyrics and charming music that serves as a welcome antidote to today&#8217;s more overly compressed sounds. How dare they.</i></p>
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		<title>By: AL</title>
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		<dc:creator>AL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i thought i didn&#039;t like crystal castles, until i actually listened to it a few times. i think it&#039;s a fun album, but then i know next to nothing about electronic music.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought i didn&#8217;t like crystal castles, until i actually listened to it a few times. i think it&#8217;s a fun album, but then i know next to nothing about electronic music.</p>
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		<title>By: Freakytrigger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freakytrigger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/5114090/hey-everybody-its-time-to-argue-over-pitchforks-best-albums-list#c9589050&quot;&gt;Nunya B&lt;/A&gt;: As the giver of that 7.1 to Santogold, I&#039;m glad it made it onto the list. The stuff I disliked at the time of reviewing stopped annoying me so much, and the stuff I liked stayed good. Obviously other staffers liked it well enough too.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/5114090/hey-everybody-its-time-to-argue-over-pitchforks-best-albums-list#c9589050">Nunya B</a>: As the giver of that 7.1 to Santogold, I&#8217;m glad it made it onto the list. The stuff I disliked at the time of reviewing stopped annoying me so much, and the stuff I liked stayed good. Obviously other staffers liked it well enough too.</p>
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		<title>By: natepatrin</title>
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		<dc:creator>natepatrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c9593969&quot;&gt;Maciej&lt;/a&gt;: Fair enough. I&#039;m sort of a dance music geek (amongst other, supposedly incompatible geekeries like indie rap and dubstep -- and holy shit, did dubstep have a pretty good year or what), and I didn&#039;t hear too much attrition or entropy in house music this year, though maybe part of that was informed by all the stuff I found with the phrase &quot;Aeroplane Remix&quot; attached. That, and I went on a Discodust bender for a few months and found plenty to like, electro-scuzzy and balearic as a lot of it was.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, lack of danceability has little to do with my disappointment over &lt;i&gt;Seventh Tree&lt;/i&gt; -- I would&#039;ve liked it a lot more if it had material that was as engagingly weird and vocally gripping as &quot;Pilots&quot; or &quot;Lovely Head&quot; or some of the other choice pre-electro &lt;i&gt;Felt Mountain&lt;/i&gt; material. (And &quot;A&amp;E&quot; got remixed anyways.) Still, I ain&#039;t gonna begrudge anyone their enjoyment of it, at least not in retrospect.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c9593969">Maciej</a>: Fair enough. I&#8217;m sort of a dance music geek (amongst other, supposedly incompatible geekeries like indie rap and dubstep &#8212; and holy shit, did dubstep have a pretty good year or what), and I didn&#8217;t hear too much attrition or entropy in house music this year, though maybe part of that was informed by all the stuff I found with the phrase &#8220;Aeroplane Remix&#8221; attached. That, and I went on a Discodust bender for a few months and found plenty to like, electro-scuzzy and balearic as a lot of it was.</p>
<p>Also, lack of danceability has little to do with my disappointment over <i>Seventh Tree</i> &#8212; I would&#8217;ve liked it a lot more if it had material that was as engagingly weird and vocally gripping as &#8220;Pilots&#8221; or &#8220;Lovely Head&#8221; or some of the other choice pre-electro <i>Felt Mountain</i> material. (And &#8220;A&amp;E&#8221; got remixed anyways.) Still, I ain&#8217;t gonna begrudge anyone their enjoyment of it, at least not in retrospect.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Jensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c9582570&quot;&gt;soundbitesnyc&lt;/a&gt;: @&lt;a href=&quot;#c9582089&quot;&gt;Cam/ron&lt;/a&gt;: Cut Copy was my #1, so I like its high placement.  I kind of wonder what album you people listened to!  The one I heard was wall-to-wall.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c9582570">soundbitesnyc</a>: @<a href="#c9582089">Cam/ron</a>: Cut Copy was my #1, so I like its high placement.  I kind of wonder what album you people listened to!  The one I heard was wall-to-wall.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c9592281&quot;&gt;marc h.&lt;/a&gt;: Haha, I know it&#039;s hard to believe in a comment thread about P-fork but I wasn&#039;t complaining about the list, just trying to explain to Nate why I didn&#039;t think Herc, in this context, was a &quot;token house or techno pick&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That Shed album is indeed awesome, btw.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c9592281">marc h.</a>: Haha, I know it&#8217;s hard to believe in a comment thread about P-fork but I wasn&#8217;t complaining about the list, just trying to explain to Nate why I didn&#8217;t think Herc, in this context, was a &#8220;token house or techno pick&#8221;.</p>
<p>That Shed album is indeed awesome, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Murk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Did someone really have to drag CSNY into this?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: marc h.</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc h.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@macieg: ah, gotcha, sorry. just thinking that if i were writing an H&amp;LA blurb, part of the POINT of that album is that &quot;house&quot; was just another word for &quot;disco&quot; so why not unite the two?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if the issue is that people aren&#039;t talking about H&amp;LA for being electronic-based, well, plenty of &quot;disco&quot; was electronic-based, too, as is plenty of other stuff on this list (cut copy, crystal castles, etc. etc.). so it&#039;s not really the most relevant aspect of the album, to me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you&#039;re right though that more cerebral stuff like Move D &amp; Benjamin Brunn and Patrice Baumel and Shed didn&#039;t get up there, which is definitely something i could see a person arguing about.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;anyway, rambling, sorry!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@macieg: ah, gotcha, sorry. just thinking that if i were writing an H&amp;LA blurb, part of the POINT of that album is that &#8220;house&#8221; was just another word for &#8220;disco&#8221; so why not unite the two?</p>
<p>if the issue is that people aren&#8217;t talking about H&amp;LA for being electronic-based, well, plenty of &#8220;disco&#8221; was electronic-based, too, as is plenty of other stuff on this list (cut copy, crystal castles, etc. etc.). so it&#8217;s not really the most relevant aspect of the album, to me.</p>
<p>you&#8217;re right though that more cerebral stuff like Move D &amp; Benjamin Brunn and Patrice Baumel and Shed didn&#8217;t get up there, which is definitely something i could see a person arguing about.</p>
<p>anyway, rambling, sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: anumberofnames</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c9586205&quot;&gt;the rich girls are weeping&lt;/a&gt;: Every time I would listen to S=Y, I&#039;d follow it with a listen to Roxy Music&#039;s Avalon, the unremastered CD that I bought in the mid-90s.  Obviously, Avalon is a completely different thing but the mastering itself is so smooth, I could turn the CD up as loud as I wanted and wouldn&#039;t feel any of the pain I&#039;d feel from listening to S=Y at very low volume.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have this fantasy that in the future CDs will come with certificates to download iPod-friendly rips, but the CDs themselves will be mastered at ear-friendly volumes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c9586205">the rich girls are weeping</a>: Every time I would listen to S=Y, I&#8217;d follow it with a listen to Roxy Music&#8217;s Avalon, the unremastered CD that I bought in the mid-90s.  Obviously, Avalon is a completely different thing but the mastering itself is so smooth, I could turn the CD up as loud as I wanted and wouldn&#8217;t feel any of the pain I&#8217;d feel from listening to S=Y at very low volume.</p>
<p>I have this fantasy that in the future CDs will come with certificates to download iPod-friendly rips, but the CDs themselves will be mastered at ear-friendly volumes.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not a usual commenter, but someone has to defend the Fleet Foxes record.  08 wasn&#039;t a year that saw much in the way of groundbreaking, forward-thinking music.  (Two exceptions being Portishead and Gang Gang Dance, both of which I&#039;m happy to see place as high as they did.)  Pretty much everyone found a niche and stuck to their genre guns.&lt;br&gt;
Yeah, Fleet Foxes aren&#039;t breaking from any of the obvious touchstones (CSNY, The Beach Boys, the Band).  But they are quite skilled, and have a hell of a collection of songs to launch with, which is the most crucial point.  &quot;Drops In The River&quot;, &quot;White Winter Hymnal&quot;, &quot;He Doesn&#039;t Know Why&quot;, &quot;Mykonos&quot;, and &quot;Oliver James&quot;, at least, are such marvels of heartfelt, well-paced songwriting they should be standards.  They don&#039;t hit immediately on the first pass, but they stick with you; after a year of listening, I feel like they&#039;ve been around forever.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a usual commenter, but someone has to defend the Fleet Foxes record.  08 wasn&#8217;t a year that saw much in the way of groundbreaking, forward-thinking music.  (Two exceptions being Portishead and Gang Gang Dance, both of which I&#8217;m happy to see place as high as they did.)  Pretty much everyone found a niche and stuck to their genre guns.<br />
Yeah, Fleet Foxes aren&#8217;t breaking from any of the obvious touchstones (CSNY, The Beach Boys, the Band).  But they are quite skilled, and have a hell of a collection of songs to launch with, which is the most crucial point.  &#8220;Drops In The River&#8221;, &#8220;White Winter Hymnal&#8221;, &#8220;He Doesn&#8217;t Know Why&#8221;, &#8220;Mykonos&#8221;, and &#8220;Oliver James&#8221;, at least, are such marvels of heartfelt, well-paced songwriting they should be standards.  They don&#8217;t hit immediately on the first pass, but they stick with you; after a year of listening, I feel like they&#8217;ve been around forever.</p>
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		<title>By: the rich girls are weeping</title>
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		<dc:creator>the rich girls are weeping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c9589050&quot;&gt;Nunya B&lt;/a&gt;: Thx, sometimes I wonder if it&#039;s just me when incredibly -- as you say -- banal bands become popular. I can&#039;t help it if I have impossibly high standards!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That being said, I sure loved that Goldfrapp record a whole lot. And I was really annoyed with people who haterated on it because it wasn&#039;t Black Cherry/Supernature redux, and completely refused to give it the time of day because you couldn&#039;t dance to/remix it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c9589050">Nunya B</a>: Thx, sometimes I wonder if it&#8217;s just me when incredibly &#8212; as you say &#8212; banal bands become popular. I can&#8217;t help it if I have impossibly high standards!</p>
<p>That being said, I sure loved that Goldfrapp record a whole lot. And I was really annoyed with people who haterated on it because it wasn&#8217;t Black Cherry/Supernature redux, and completely refused to give it the time of day because you couldn&#8217;t dance to/remix it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nunya B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nunya B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c9588069&quot;&gt;the rich girls are weeping&lt;/a&gt;: I agree with everything you&#039;ve said about Titus Androniucus. They&#039;re so banal, and yet so in love with themselves; it&#039;s not a good look at all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Re: H&amp;LA- I think the disco moments on H&amp;LA are some of the finer moments on the record, which is maybe the focus the Pitchfork writers want to take? It&#039;s an excellent album overall but for Pitchfork to lavish the praise on it that it has some of its weaknesses have to be elided.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is Cut Copy backlash on its way? I&#039;m a little shocked by the high placing of In Ghost Colours- it&#039;s fun, I guess, but at the same time it&#039;s nothing amazing. Dan Whitford is kind of cute though I guess.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m surprised Crystal Castles and Santogold made it onto the list at all, considering Pitchfork&#039;s almost aggressive middling review of the Santogold album (7.1, which for an artist as hyped up as Santogold was almost as bad as the 6.8 they gave MGMT). And I wish someone- anyone- had been as much of a fan of the Goldfrapp record as I was. But I&#039;m not dissatisfied with the list- &lt;i&gt;Made in the Dark&lt;/i&gt; aside (that record bites, my God, what are people ON?).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c9588069">the rich girls are weeping</a>: I agree with everything you&#8217;ve said about Titus Androniucus. They&#8217;re so banal, and yet so in love with themselves; it&#8217;s not a good look at all.</p>
<p>Re: H&amp;LA- I think the disco moments on H&amp;LA are some of the finer moments on the record, which is maybe the focus the Pitchfork writers want to take? It&#8217;s an excellent album overall but for Pitchfork to lavish the praise on it that it has some of its weaknesses have to be elided.</p>
<p>Is Cut Copy backlash on its way? I&#8217;m a little shocked by the high placing of In Ghost Colours- it&#8217;s fun, I guess, but at the same time it&#8217;s nothing amazing. Dan Whitford is kind of cute though I guess.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised Crystal Castles and Santogold made it onto the list at all, considering Pitchfork&#8217;s almost aggressive middling review of the Santogold album (7.1, which for an artist as hyped up as Santogold was almost as bad as the 6.8 they gave MGMT). And I wish someone- anyone- had been as much of a fan of the Goldfrapp record as I was. But I&#8217;m not dissatisfied with the list- <i>Made in the Dark</i> aside (that record bites, my God, what are people ON?).</p>
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		<title>By: the rich girls are weeping</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c9587437&quot;&gt;RaptorAvatar&lt;/a&gt;: To me, all the things you love just came off as sloppy and amateurish, and ultimately totally disrespectful of the crowd. If you can&#039;t bring it live, I&#039;m so not interested. Which is not to say that I don&#039;t appreciate a good heartfelt show that ends in shambles (anyone who remembers old Okkervil River shows, or almost any Wrens show knows what I&#039;m talking about...) Mostly, TA struck me as a bunch of assholey beardos who thought it would be really &lt;i&gt;funny&lt;/i&gt; to have a band. Then again, what do I know? They were good enough to sign to XL, the one blight in the Beggars stable of labels. Then again, it&#039;s almost a given that if I have a blinding hatred of an act, they almost inevitably end up on XL. Ha!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c9587437">RaptorAvatar</a>: To me, all the things you love just came off as sloppy and amateurish, and ultimately totally disrespectful of the crowd. If you can&#8217;t bring it live, I&#8217;m so not interested. Which is not to say that I don&#8217;t appreciate a good heartfelt show that ends in shambles (anyone who remembers old Okkervil River shows, or almost any Wrens show knows what I&#8217;m talking about&#8230;) Mostly, TA struck me as a bunch of assholey beardos who thought it would be really <i>funny</i> to have a band. Then again, what do I know? They were good enough to sign to XL, the one blight in the Beggars stable of labels. Then again, it&#8217;s almost a given that if I have a blinding hatred of an act, they almost inevitably end up on XL. Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c9585433&quot;&gt;marc h.&lt;/a&gt;: I didn&#039;t mean it to be clever at all, I just couldn&#039;t think quickly think of a less clumsy way to phrase it. I mean simply that, though Nate correctly points out that there&#039;s a good amount of house sound on that record, the &quot;Blind&quot; blurb in the singles list uses H&amp;LA as part of its odd &quot;disco had a good year, house and techno had a bad year&quot; thesis.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c9585433">marc h.</a>: I didn&#8217;t mean it to be clever at all, I just couldn&#8217;t think quickly think of a less clumsy way to phrase it. I mean simply that, though Nate correctly points out that there&#8217;s a good amount of house sound on that record, the &#8220;Blind&#8221; blurb in the singles list uses H&amp;LA as part of its odd &#8220;disco had a good year, house and techno had a bad year&#8221; thesis.</p>
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