Comments on: An Early Christmas Gift From The RIAA http://idolator.com/5114182/an-early-christmas-gift-from-the-riaa Music News, Reviews, and Gossip on Idolator.com Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:57:58 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: bburl http://idolator.com/5114182/an-early-christmas-gift-from-the-riaa/comment-page-1#comment-801082 bburl Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:08:51 +0000 cf2198e2217e0722f3b6acd4a4c3b314#comment-801082 <p>It is possible that the music industry will survive, just like the auto makers. But there will be downsizing and a shifting of focus. Until there is new technology to police people (and don't we all look forward to that 1984), the halcion days of the 80's and 90's are gone forever. Just as GM will be around in some form or another, prolly smaller and more concentrated, so too will the music business. The contraction of sales will not continue forever, even if illegal downloading is common practise. There are many revenue streams, and you can have value added content on music purchases to encourage people to buy. Like the 13th Floor Elevators have a lavish box set coming out with a full sized book and great packaging. There are going to be a lot of people who will want to own it even if they could get the music for free.</p> It is possible that the music industry will survive, just like the auto makers. But there will be downsizing and a shifting of focus. Until there is new technology to police people (and don’t we all look forward to that 1984), the halcion days of the 80’s and 90’s are gone forever. Just as GM will be around in some form or another, prolly smaller and more concentrated, so too will the music business. The contraction of sales will not continue forever, even if illegal downloading is common practise. There are many revenue streams, and you can have value added content on music purchases to encourage people to buy. Like the 13th Floor Elevators have a lavish box set coming out with a full sized book and great packaging. There are going to be a lot of people who will want to own it even if they could get the music for free.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/5114182/an-early-christmas-gift-from-the-riaa/comment-page-1#comment-801092 Anonymous Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:12:35 +0000 cf2198e2217e0722f3b6acd4a4c3b314#comment-801092 <P>@<A href="http://idolator.com/5114182/an-early-christmas-gift-from-the-riaa#c9583157">dsven</A>: agreed, there are few arguments that could convince me that people will once again start paying for something they can get for free. while the labels could definitely work on new ways of leveraging the intellectual property they own, and finding out how people value music and how they can channel that in to their bank accounts, it's real easy to say that when we all know what we spent on music this past year versus 1998.</P> <P>point is, getting it for free is illegal, though probably about as much as shoplifting some cheap earrings from a department store, that is not enough to get you thrown in jail or fined $200,000, but i'd say enough that if you got caught by mall security, you may think twice next time.</P> <P>next step is the RIAA realizing that second thought is all they can realistically hope to achieve at this point... hey we can all dream can't we?</P> @dsven: agreed, there are few arguments that could convince me that people will once again start paying for something they can get for free. while the labels could definitely work on new ways of leveraging the intellectual property they own, and finding out how people value music and how they can channel that in to their bank accounts, it’s real easy to say that when we all know what we spent on music this past year versus 1998.

point is, getting it for free is illegal, though probably about as much as shoplifting some cheap earrings from a department store, that is not enough to get you thrown in jail or fined $200,000, but i’d say enough that if you got caught by mall security, you may think twice next time.

next step is the RIAA realizing that second thought is all they can realistically hope to achieve at this point… hey we can all dream can’t we?

]]> By: dsven http://idolator.com/5114182/an-early-christmas-gift-from-the-riaa/comment-page-1#comment-801102 dsven Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:01:17 +0000 cf2198e2217e0722f3b6acd4a4c3b314#comment-801102 <p>@<a href="#c9582933">Rev.Keith</a>: Agree with you on most points except the "Start by releasing better music"...I find points like that are always bandied about, but what does it actually mean?</p> <p>Never mind the fact that "good" is entirely subjective, but do you really think if record companies release fewer stereotypically "bad" releases by Nickelback, Britney et al, and start releasing more "good" albums by Fleet Foxes, Robyn, etc, that people will be more compelled to buy rather than download illegally?</p> <p>I'd venture to say that the ratio of stolen:purchased music for both "good" and "bad" artists is pretty similar.</p> @Rev.Keith: Agree with you on most points except the “Start by releasing better music”…I find points like that are always bandied about, but what does it actually mean?

Never mind the fact that “good” is entirely subjective, but do you really think if record companies release fewer stereotypically “bad” releases by Nickelback, Britney et al, and start releasing more “good” albums by Fleet Foxes, Robyn, etc, that people will be more compelled to buy rather than download illegally?

I’d venture to say that the ratio of stolen:purchased music for both “good” and “bad” artists is pretty similar.

]]> By: Anonymous http://idolator.com/5114182/an-early-christmas-gift-from-the-riaa/comment-page-1#comment-801112 Anonymous Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:53:57 +0000 cf2198e2217e0722f3b6acd4a4c3b314#comment-801112 <p>I've been rattling my saber at the RIAA for nigh unto three decades now, and I find it hard to swallow anything that they put forward in a press release. While they <i>say</i> that they're moving away from suing the consumers that pay their salaries in favor of working with ISPs to solve the problem of music downloading, they're trying to fix the game behind the scene with draconian legislation in Congress.</p> <p>Methinks that instead the RIAA and its masters, the Four Families of the recording industry, should get over their nearly ten-year-old obsession with music downloading and start coming up with ways to actually <i>sell</i> something that the music consumer wants to buy! Start by releasing better music and move towards the future from there....</p> I’ve been rattling my saber at the RIAA for nigh unto three decades now, and I find it hard to swallow anything that they put forward in a press release. While they say that they’re moving away from suing the consumers that pay their salaries in favor of working with ISPs to solve the problem of music downloading, they’re trying to fix the game behind the scene with draconian legislation in Congress.

Methinks that instead the RIAA and its masters, the Four Families of the recording industry, should get over their nearly ten-year-old obsession with music downloading and start coming up with ways to actually sell something that the music consumer wants to buy! Start by releasing better music and move towards the future from there….

]]> By: revmatty http://idolator.com/5114182/an-early-christmas-gift-from-the-riaa/comment-page-1#comment-801122 revmatty Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:40:05 +0000 cf2198e2217e0722f3b6acd4a4c3b314#comment-801122 <p>I think if they provided you with basic phone service they would be meeting their obligation as far as the FCC is concerned.</p> I think if they provided you with basic phone service they would be meeting their obligation as far as the FCC is concerned.

]]> By: NoOneCaresAboutYourFuckingBlog http://idolator.com/5114182/an-early-christmas-gift-from-the-riaa/comment-page-1#comment-801132 NoOneCaresAboutYourFuckingBlog Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:18:51 +0000 cf2198e2217e0722f3b6acd4a4c3b314#comment-801132 <p>Can oligopolies even deny you service? I think they can get in trouble with the FCC for this.</p> Can oligopolies even deny you service? I think they can get in trouble with the FCC for this.

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