Bands That Send You Into “Two Minutes Hate” Mode

In a comment on his Morrissey review earlier this week, fellow Idolatorian Mike Barthel mentioned that his antipathy toward Animal Collective was so strong, he couldn’t even understand why other people liked them:

Why do I hate AC? I’ve gotten into it elsewhere, and yeah, like Maura said, there hasn’t really been a proper platform to air any writer’s grievances at length. I just really, really don’t like them, to the point that I don’t even really understand why other people like them. I actually spent about an hour today talking to a former AC-hata who was trying to talk me into liking the new album, and I gave it an honest, serious try, and it made me want to stab knitting needles in my eyes.



That’s some serious hate there, but I completely understand. There are some bands that I loathe so much that it clouds my reason. The rational centers of my brain are so opposed to them that I can’t understand why any thinking bidepal creature would ever deign to listen to such garbage.

There’s a definite divide between the bands that give me the Hate Shakes™ and bands that I just don’t like. For example, I get why high school kids dig the Doors (I know I did), and, heck, I can even see why kids got into the horrid nu-metal of the late ’90s/early ’00s. Sure, the thought of a Limp Bizkit song’s existence makes my kidneys want to jump out through my eyeballs, but I sort of understand the band’s underlying appeal.

But then we have a band like Kings of Leon. I know what you are thinking. They’re harmless and mediocre, right? Yeah, I know, but context has to be part of this kind of intense hatred. The Kings of Leon garner so much acclaim for their hook-free, watered-down faux-Southern rock garbage when more deserving bands (like everyone else in the world making music) don’t get covered with the same fervor, and it fills me with loathing. Adding fuel to this fire is that most of their fans seem to agree that the band is getting worse, yet the coverage is almost always praiseworthy. (This happens a lot when artists become “feature” bands that garner features over reviews. Features are generally fawning puff pieces meant to sell mags or generate clicks, so who cares if some Grumpy Gus in the back thinks the band sounds like putrified dog squeeze?) God, just talking about this band gives me the Hate Shakes™. You see? I’m so blinded by hate that I can’t even elucidate a tenable position on this. I just shake and hate and shake some more. Blergh!

How about you? Whom do you hate so much that you can’t even fathom why someone would ever listen to them? Who gives you the Hate Shakes™?

Also, Nine Inch Nails sucks! Haha. Kidding. I just wanted to feed the beast.

 

  • FuckAnimalCollective
    Great article. I don't recommend this but if you really want to go into a blind rage, read the first review on itunes of Animal Collective's album that has a lot of yellow on the cover. Also Steve Miller Band, Jimmy Buffet, MOE 2-4 on the worst band ever list just below Animal Collective.
  • FuckAnimalCollective
    Great article. I don't recommend this but if you really want to go into a blind rage, read the first review on itunes of Animal Collective's album that has a lot of yellow on the cover. Also Steve Miller Band, Jimmy Buffet, MOE 2-4 on the worst band ever list just below Animal Collective.
  • Anonymous

    coldplay. - Hate. Hate. Hate. Bland and insepid. I want to run chris martin over with my car.


    Fall Out Boy - I don't think there is anyone as ugly as Pete Wentz. And their music sucks

  • Anonymous

    I spend a disturbing amount of time and energy defending my overarching hatred of pop country. I do myself no favors with my love of folky rocky sometimes country twinged music "but what do you call kathleen edwards if not country music"


    No band makes me as inexplicably angry as Rascall Flats. I actually feel like my eyes glaze over and I can't function except to blurt out curse words. GAhhhhh, just THINKING about them! Its like a physical reaction that I actually cannot control.

  • gLAZYeyes

    What a gross, tedious exercise this thread is. Not good for anyone.


    That said, Cup My Balls Say Ah is horrid, overrated anti-rock.

  • KikoJones

    @eyeball_kid:


    I should've clarified my statement. What I meant to say was that for a lot of these hipster types "anyone who has clearly discernible talent in a classic sense--ie they can play their instrument at an above average level and/or can actually sing--is immediately suspect." Pure instrumental dexterity--or lack thereof--should not be the main criteria to judge something, unless it becomes an actual hindrance to the music.


    But Yngwie is a great example: before consigning him to the dust heap he should be listened to before dismissing him. I did and I did.


    I guess my point was about judging music on its own merits and what it may or may not mean to you, as opposed to what so-called arbiters of taste--dubious and otherwise--have deemed it to be.

  • kajsa

    I'm with the Morrissey haters...I have no problem with Johnny Marr, in fact, I kind of love him, so I've tried several times to get into The Smiths, but as soon as I hear his voice I want to cause damage to my surroundings.


    I also think I am allergic to Coldplay. There is nothing wrong with it per se, it's just so damn blah I don't understand the point.

  • Anonymous

    What kind of music do you people even listen to? A lot of the stuff people have listed is pretty bad, but some of it not so much. Led Zeppelin? Pavement? Frank fucking Zappa? I mean c'mon!


    I really can't work up the energy to hate music. I've grown to the point where I can tolerate a lot more than I used to and what I can't tolerate I can usually understand how someone could like it. I don't really like Red Hot Chili Peppers, but they are good musicians who write pretty good songs. I don't ever want to listen to Rush but I guess I can understand why someone would. Death metal bothers me, but, again, I can see where a fan is coming from. On the flip side of the coin, I can understand why someone would hate, say, "On the Corner," but I'd like to think I can articulate to them why it's so awesome.


    Oh, and Fleet Foxes? If I woke up one morning and I could write songs that tight and pretty I'd probably shit my bed.

    Animal Collective haters? Have you heard "Grass"? To find any other songs that beautiful I'd have to dig into, like, "Mingus Ah Um."

  • Anonymous

    OAR


    I was totally ambivalent toward them until I had the accidental misfortune to catch them live a few years ago. At first they were just a poor man's DMB. Then they had the temerity to sing "Sunday Bloody Sunday." For an encore. At a Christmas show. With a saxophone in the instrumentation.


    Who does that?


    I don't hold U2 or Bono on any pedestal, but this song is pretty special. And if you're not U2 or even from fucking Ireland you should NOT be performing this song.


    I also loathe Ray LaMontaigne.

  • Anonymous

    I realize this thread is long enough that another person posting is kind of pointless, but that's ok, I'll add my overly-long two cents in.


    rant:

    I don't usually dislike particular bands, I save all my hate for entire scenes. I steer clear of the Next Big Blog Band not because I dislike the music, but because I hate the entire hipster scene. Your holier-than-thou style and music preference is conformism at it's worst! Down with Pitchfork!


    Ack, it seems other people have the same problem as I do, (like KikoJones). Hipsters, you're not cool because you listen to something every other clueless kid your age listens to, just because you're the first in your group of friends to read about it on Stereogum.


    I've always figured emo scene kids go to college and become hipsters, then they move out to the suburbs and become soccer moms. They pride themselves on their scene, not actually the music, and then they grow out of it... and into another stereotype they can comfortably live in.


    I overcompensate because I'm fat, so I just don't listen to any bands that resemble the indie/hipster scene. You'd think that I was bitter because some hipster did something to spite me long ago. Unfortunately, I can't even use that as an excuse. I'm just blindly nonconformist (which is a drawback as well). Death to cliques!

    /rant

  • Maura Johnston

    @How do I say this ... THROWDINI!: the hate posts ALWAYS get more traffic. it is an internet truism.

  • MayhemintheHood

    @kevink.: RHCP...totally agree. Good call.

  • encyclopediablack

    Jim Jones

    Kiss


    Steely Dan


    The Backstreet Boys

  • Tauwan

    Hate is such a strong word, one I don't normally toss out when it comes to music cause I listen and/or purchase a lot of shit, but if you were to ask me something I just don't care for, I would have to go ahead and say, oh I don't know Linkin Park.

  • How do I say this ... THROWDIN

    Damn, over 100 comments already. That's a lot of haterade/hatorade.


    Lucas, Maura -- Looks like its time for an idolator poll, which band give you hate shakes the most.

  • mattowles

    Velvet Crush circa 'Teenage Symphonies to God or, actually, Velvet Crush circa anything but "Walking Out on Love" now that i think about it.


    really any powerpop of that kind makes me squirm.

  • Anonymous

    A couple oldies but baddies for your consideration. If I happen to catch even a note of a Chicago or a Journey song as I spin the radio dial the hair on the back of my neck will stand up and my palms begin to sweat. High school memories come rushing back as the Hate Shakes overtake my limbs, causing me fumble with the dial as I frantically try to change the station! The torture, the torture!

  • NeverEnough

    @Ned Raggett: Gene?! GENE??!


    I'm so breaking up with you.

  • Chris B.

    A few years ago, when the hot-shit bands were The Strokes and The White Stripes and I was looking for The White Stripes' first two albums in a record store and I asked the clerk if he had either of them and he told me that he didn't but they had the latest (first?) Linkin Park record. I thought I was going to have seizures from the hate shakes I had then.

  • Anonymous

    I too hate Bon Iver, and I haven't even heard anything by he/she/it! I read that the name is a shortened version of some phrase in a foreign language, and it just sounded Pretentious As Hell. Irrational, I know.


    If The Boss or Pink Floyd come on the radio, I'm immediately out.


    On the flip side, I have an everlasting love for Game Theory/Loud Family, but very few seem to share my passion.

  • Michaelangelo Matos

    Guided by Voices.

  • Anonymous

    WINGS, y'all.

  • KristaJulieva

    Dave Matthews Band is the only outfit worthy of Hate Shakes to me. They feed on people who should know better, whose musical development was probably no different from yours or mine up until, say, late high school/early college. Then they came to a fork in the road. Down one road was music that didn't suck. Down the other road was Dave Matthews' stupid face and voice, and fiddling. And they were seduced. You see a guy from your high school on facebook whose sole entry under favorite music is "DMB"--and you just lower your head in mourning. It's like they've been eaten by zombies. But that means they themselves have become a zombie. And that ain't no trip to Cleveland.

  • Handsome Pete

    Mates of State.

  • Anonymous

    The Devil Wears Prada.
    worst. fucking. rat slowly gurgling to death.. screamo. band. ever.


    and we the kings.
    over-glorified pop-punk, heard it a million times shit.

  • Invisible Circus

    anybody that my 'trendy hipster' friends like.


    Vampire Weekend makes me get the HS for ten minutes, screw that 2 minute thing.


    The Kills- we're going to make howling noises for two minutes like a half assed ting tings (atleast they have the decency to annoy with pep and englishness)


    maybe its more of the fools at urban outfitters who'll only listen to whatever everyone else isn't...whatever THAT is, I'm not into it.


    I'm getting hate shakes trying to remember who the hell I get hate shakes from, thanks guys

  • Invisible Circus

    @Lucas Jensen:


    most of shaggy's repertoire gives me that.


    then vomits.


    its terrible.

  • revmatty

    @brownham: Thanks for the reminder: The kid from Bright Eyes. Anything he's involved with pretty much bores me to sleep.

  • Maura Johnston

    50 Fucking Cent.


    God I can't wait for Before I Self-Destruct to, well, you know.

  • Chris Molanphy

    Just 'cuz we've gotten this far and no one's mentioned them...and I hate them so much I specifically told our wedding DJ, not only to not play them, but to ignore any (probable) requests for them from my Italian relatives...


    Bon Jovi.

  • NeverEnough

    @Lucas Jensen: I know, I know. When I originally registered I had a cold and was a bit loopy of cough syrup. I THOUGHT I had typed "NeverStop" (a nod to my beloved Bunnymen). D'oh!

  • Ned Raggett

    Brownham, are you just listing the roster of Coachella 2010 or something?

  • moomintroll

    @Tardy: You made me spit out my cocoa! For real who does that?

    I'm on the OAR haterade wagon with you. I remember a few years ago (5?) when they became popular with my college friends and I'd just think "what are you saying? oooohhaaayyarrrggh? what? Do you say it like the oar of a boat?"


    I felt the same about MGMT, do you say emmgeeeemmmteee or managmement?


    But yeah, OAR...um, no, just no.

  • UFO DNA

    PETER. BJORN.

    AND JOHN.


    Whistling in general makes my ears gag, but a the whistled, playground-taunty hook in "Young Folks" nearly turned me into a violent criminal.

  • brownham

    THE MOUNTAIN GOATS


    NO AGE


    ABE VIGODA


    THE BIRD AND THE BEE


    GREGORY AND THE HAWK


    MIA

  • brownham

    THE HOLD STEADY


    OKKERVIL RIVER


    THE DECEMBERISTS


    KID ROCK


    COCO ROSIE

  • revmatty

    90% of the artists played on classic rock stations, and most bands that were popular when I was in high school/college.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for this thread.

    Bands/artists I would like to never hear again:


    Jimmy Buffet

    Madonna


    Styx


    Ted Nugent


    Billy Joel


    Creed


    Nickleback


    Linkin Park


    Kanye West


    Chick Corea


    Yanni


    AC/DC


    Journey


    Kenny G


    Golden Earring


    Girl Talk


    Rush


    The Offspring


    The Eagles


    Sheryl Crow


    Coldplay


    Joe Satriani


    Animal Collective


    and bands that try to sound like the above list.

  • Eugene Langley

    Best comment bait ever. For the sake of completeness, though I think these have already been covered:


    80s and 90s Aerosmith is a no brainer


    M.I.A. besides "Paper Planes" - the awesomeness of which actually makes me hate her even more (and by extension, Diplo, I suppose)


    Devendra Banhart - I can now see why so many people are anti-hippie

  • Anonymous

    i can deal with any music on this earth except for freakin'


    ICP


    That actually makes me want to smack people.

  • kevink.

    ^^^could not be more on the money

  • KurticusMaximus

    Also, can we institute a ban on bitching about hipsters on music blogs? The hipster haterade is universal. We all get it. Move on already.


    Besides, isn't that sort of like hanging out in a biker bar all the time, and then bitching about how much you hate bikers?

  • KurticusMaximus

    Can this become a weekly feature? It may get repetitive, but once a week there should just be an open thread where everybody gets to list the things they hate.


    Gotta let it all out, people. Don't hold back.


    Also; grunge, and post-grunge shlock. I'm looking at you, Puddle of Mudd.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, didn't mean to post twice.

  • Anonymous

    @kevink.:


    Oh jeez, I forgot about the Red Hot Chili Peppers. I think even if I theoretically liked one some of their melodies or lyrics (gag), I would still be unable to get over my hate for that horrible, slimy groove that underlays every single one of their songs. "Otherside" is ok, but all the rest is ocular acupuncture.

  • Anonymous

    @kevink.:


    Oh jeez, I totally forgot about the Red Hot Chili Peppers. I think no matter how much I theoretically liked any of their melodies or their lyrics (gag) I would never be able to get over the horrible slimy groove that underlays every single one of their songs. "Other Side" is ok, but everything else is like ocular acupuncture.

  • Anonymous

    I live in Venice, so I feel the Jack Johnson...I hear it blaring at every surf-house party within 6 blocks every weekend....but the one I have NEVER gotten is Joan Baez....her voice defines the word "shrill" to me.


    And ANYthing made with Auto-Tune.

  • kevink.

    @cookiedough: lol, you're kind missing the point entirely, but w/e.


    RHCP
    DMB

    dashboard confessional (basically any nu-emo)

    fleet foxes

  • Anonymous

    @KikoJones: Also, anyone who has clearly discernible talent in a classic sense--ie they can play their instrument at an above average level and/or can actually sing--is immediately suspect.


    That's a slippery slope, lest we fall victim to Yngwie Malmsteen. Unless you're into him, then that's, um, cool, I guess.

  • KikoJones

    @eyeball_kid: And hipsters hate musical hegemony, so any large, rabid fanbase generates a lot of backlash.


    Tru dat.


    But their ignorance is an even worse trait. Case in point: The first time I heard The Decemberists "Here I Dreamt I Was an Arquitecht" I thought it was Al Stewart. But no hipster would ever be caught dead listening to Mr. Year of the Cat, so they'll diss him--if they even know who he is--and listen to their own version.


    Also, anyone who has clearly discernible talent in a classic sense--ie they can play their instrument at an above average level and/or can actually sing--is immediately suspect.

  • Anonymous

    @T'Challa: Haha, "it's not like he was Timbaland or anything" completely correct w/r/t the worth of Dilla, I think, though comparing the two is kind of random.


    As for me, the Shins 100%. God do I hate them.

  • Anonymous

    Jack fucking Johnson. Talk about Hate Shakes. Having to listen to his aggressively mellow shit is like trying to stay in a room that has a hidden high-frequency squeal that you can't identify the source of. Literally drives me up the wall. I'm thrilled that he seems to have receded back into the woodwork.


    Nthed on the Lenny Kravitz. Hate it, hate it, hate it. Music designed for bad commercials.


    Train. I liked "Meet Virginia" ok, but at some point their blandness crossed some line and morphed into Hate Shakes.

  • MayhemintheHood

    @Ned Raggett: Ones that come to mind that made me get the Hate Shakes real bad are Millionaires, Paris Hilton mofos(or whatever they're called) and The Shark That Ate My Friend. Those types of groups are seriously so bereft of talent that it's infuriating to see any attention paid to them. From memory, I don't think you were involved with any of those pieces. OC Weekly does do some great coverage every now and then, though. A couple months back you guys wrote about one of my favorite OC bands, Baby Champ, which was cool(even though they were breaking up that same week).

  • Anonymous

    @T'Challa: @natepatrin: It's LFTR PLLR y'all!

  • cookiedough

    Ever since the last album I absolutely hate of Montreal. I think that Kevin Barnes is trying WAAAAY too hard to shock people (which makes him strikingly similar to Marilyn Manson, whom I also hate with a passion), and that leads to OM's fans being incredibly douchey about how weird they think they are. It's all "Oh, look at me, I like this guy who rides a horse on stage and gets naked." Hissing Fauna was actually shocking in that he was dealing with his life with such disturbing lyrics, but Lamping is just pathetic. And the music isn't nearly as good.

  • Anonymous

    The Steve Miller Band.

  • KikoJones

    Oh, so many crappy bands so little time: off the top of my head I'm gonna say Animal Collective, Kiss, Modest Mouse, The Moldy Peaches, and Vampire Weekend. But to be honest, with the exception of Kiss, I have more of a problem with the people that like these bands and defend them; who wear their fandom as a badge of coolness or something. Like walking around proud of having taken a dump in your pants.

  • Anonymous

    I think a lot of hatred comes more from what the bands represent or the makeup of their fanbase than anything intrinsically musical. Some bands just suck, sure, (i.e. Creed and Nickelback) but there's either a common "uncoolness" (i.e. Phish, The Eagles) or a common "too coolness" (i.e. The Strokes) to a lot of the bands people mention. And hipsters hate musical hegemony, so any large, rabid fanbase generates a lot of backlash.


    A lot of people loathe the Eagles, but I love their hits, for the most part. The vocal harmonies on "Seven Bridges Road" alone are worth liking them for. Bring it on.

  • Ned Raggett

    @MayhemintheHood: Hey, I'm open to suggestions of who to pitch a story about!

  • Dick Laurent is dead.

    Phish

    The Eagles


    Fall Out Boy


    ...I should stop or I'll be here all night.

  • Lucas Jensen

    What's up with all of the Neil Young hate around here?

  • Rock You Like An Iracane

    Nickelback.

  • moomintroll

    @eyeball_kid: Oooh that's a great idea for a post too. I have tons of bands that I like and can't for the life of me justify why. Kaiser Chiefs are one of them. I understand that their music is pedestrian, and all their songs are exactly the same (lacking any sort of nuance or experimentation and way overdoing the "wooooooaaaaaaahhhhhhhs") but I just feel happy seeing Ricky Wilson jumping around on stage.


    As far as music I hate beyond reason? Probably Pink Floyd (post Syd), Flogging Molly, AC, My Morning Jacket, and Of Montreal.

  • AL

    Social Distortion

  • brasstax

    There was a time when I could've filled this thread with 80 comments all by myself, but those days are gone. I don't think there's any band I hate rationally or irrationally anymore. If the time comes that good bands have to step out of the way and stop making music just so all the bad bands have room to do it, I might revert to my old positions. But right now, I'm in a live and let live music world.


    God, I sound like a hippie.

  • MayhemintheHood

    During lunch, I thought about how there are usually a few bands I read about every now and then in the OC Weekly(I live in Orange County) that seriously make me go off on rants for the entire day. Nothing worse than a local magazine choosing to cover only the crappiest bands they can find to rep the county.

  • scott pgwp

    When their new album came out I was sort of surprised to find that I have the Hate Shakes for TV on the Radio. I loathed Cookie Mountain enough to continue loathing Dear Science without hearing more than a couple songs. Now just the sound of TVotR sets my teeth gnashing. And don't get me started on Bon Iver, either.


    If I spent more time with 'em, I'd probably develop the Hate Shakes for the Hold Steady, but I think I saw right off that the band just wasn't for me so I just don't pay attention.


    I recognize that these examples have not a little to do with hating a band's hype in tandem with hating a band's music, which is such an indie douche thing to do. So to balance that out, I'll also say I've hated the Eagles since I was a lad, as well as "American Pie" (though I like "Vincent"). And the utter betrayal that was Metallica's black album still stings to this day.

  • itsmejill

    K.T. Tunstall


    Van Morrison


    I'm on the hating Fall Out Boy train, too.


    Katy Perry and all of the people that like her.


    I had to DJ a big old party on NYE and after a while I made myself a sign that said "DJ reserves to right to not play your song if she thinks it sucks". I didn't play a LOT of songs that night.

  • T'Challa

    @natepatrin: Lifter Puller! Minneapolis represent!!

  • Guy on the Windscreen

    For me right now it's Fall Out Boy. I really tried to give them a chance again a few days ago when that video was posted but right from the start I thought the song totally blew, then I started getting worked up about that stupid band name, and Pete Wentz and his stupid hair and his stupid wife, and the stupid shit he says in interviews, and how he's on the cover of every goddamn tabloid all the time, and shit I'm shaking now just thinking about them. Fall Out Boy. The name of the goddamn band is Fall Out Boy. AAAAAGGGGHHHH!

  • natepatrin

    @eyeball_kid: @T'Challa: Double hi-5s! I'd have a hell of a lot more to say in a Bands You Defend thread than this one.


    (PS: I liked Springsteen before I liked the Hold Steady. I also liked Lifter Puller before I liked the Hold Steady.)

  • amyk

    Steve Miller Band.
    Animal Collective (I was pissed they got a headline slot at Pitchfork over Jarvis. I mean it was JARVIS).

    Dave Matthews

    Neal Young

    Sheryl Crow

    Sufjan, et al...

    I actually understand that they have redeeming value but I just can't hack it.


    Most music they play at Lincoln Park trixie bars. I remember spending a night out with co-workers (on their turf) and muttering to myself 'I am in hell, I am in hell' everytime people started singing along to the classic rock and bad pop. I love music and it was just too much to listen to that crap and drink overpriced bad beer. They finally threw on 'The Whitest Boy Alive' at the end of the night and cut it off halfway through to turn the lights on. 1 good song the whole night and it cuts off and the bar tried to blind me.
    /rant

  • exposition

    Frank Zappa. Guy was smart, funny, and politically astute, but MAN do I find his music awful.

  • Ned Raggett

    @Freakytrigger: Bless you, sir.

  • indiefolkforever

    How could I forget Death Cab for Cutie? And Sara Bareilles, whose Love Song makes me tremble with Hate Tremors.

  • Anonymous

    @How do I say this ... THROWDINI!:Right with you on Keane.

  • the rich girls are weeping

    @superineficaz: I'm so crushing hard on you right now.

  • Freakytrigger

    The La's. One of the first threads on ILM was called "WHY IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS HOLY DOES ANYONE LIKE THE LA'S" and of course a big fan turned up and was all reasonable and hurt and I thought oh no, I have been an asshole, but then I thought BUT IT'S THE LA'S. Magic 60s dust. That one about the ship. Fucking "Doledrum". "It was a hit and nobody realised it's about heroin". Playing the same wretched songs at every gig for 12 years. Endless endless albums of demos of those same songs. It seems to be dying down a bit now in the UK probably because we had a few bands idiotic enough to try and sound like the La's and everyone realised what a bad idea it was. But I remain vigilant.

  • T'Challa

    @eyeball_kid: good point!


    I will always ride for the late/great hip-hop producer Jay Dilla. I literally had to leave a party when someone insisted that he was "overrated" and then had the audacity to add, "It's not like he was Timbaland or anything." I've never wanted to hit someone so badly in my life.

  • Anonymous

    The Eagles.


    God. They suck SO bad.


    But, I don't understand getting the Hate Shakes from say, Fleet Foxes or Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, or even to some extent AC- but I guess their cult is particularly annoying. But these mostly seem like casual distates. I fucking hate the Eagles.

  • How do I say this ... THROWDIN

    @walkmasterflex: I'm right there with you on Antony and the Johnsons. That voice; those songs. Absolute crap.


    I also hate, hate, hate Keane. The whole we-don't-have-a-guitar thing pisses me off. (Its not that I care that they don't have a guitar; hell a lot of my favorite early 80s music is guitarless. Its just that they seem so douchey about it.) Except, of course, whenever I hear a Keane song on the radio, I think to myself "this song is pretty good" and then when I figure out the artist, I feel ashamed and pissed off at myself for liking a Keane song. Fuck you Keane (shakes fist in the air).

  • superineficaz

    how fitting that animal collective would begin the piece: i swear on anything, whatever makes their music appealing to some people must be recorded in tones that only straight people can hear.


    as a counterpoint, rufus wainwright need sing only four bars before all-consuming lasers of hate come shooting from my eyes. for the love of god, if one absolutely MUST become a singer, would it kill one to maybe attend a few speech therapy classes?


    also, i hate everything neil young has ever touched. with a passion. and leonard cohen. so, basically, i despise male canadian singer-songwriters.


    and animal collective.

  • T'Challa

    @Mike P.: Amen, brother! Whenever someone starts going on about the HS, I usually counter with an offer of "The Wild, The Innocent and the E Street Shuffle." And I'm not even mad at the HS, but come on.

  • Anonymous

    I think this topic also brings up an interesting flip side to the Hate Shakes, which would be those bands that you love, and for which other people harbor (to your mind) irrational hatred. The band that stands out for me immediately is Pink Floyd, since where I see borderline genius in much of their music, I've known and heard from a large number of people who have an almost visceral negative reaction to them. When I listen to the instrumental intro to "Shine on You Crazy Diamond," I have a really hard time seeing how someone could feel so strongly against it, and no difficulty understanding why someone could be amazed by it. I'm not an obsessive fan by any means, but just don't get the idea of really HATING their music as a whole.


    As for the Hate Shakes... The Offspring.

  • Mike P.

    @Ted Striker: I dunno; I suspect there are Hold Steady fans who used to sneer at Springsteen and bar rock.


    I hate them, BTW.

  • the rich girls are weeping

    @BawstonSean: Haha. A few comments back I was like ooooh, Vertical Horizon! TRAVIS.

  • SomeSound-MostlyFury

    @natepatrin: I was just thinking the same thing. Completely insufferable!

  • BawstonSean

    @Ned Raggett: Gene! Damn, that opens old wounds. And since we're at it, let's ad Vertical Horizon, Train and Third Eye Blind to the list...

  • Anonymous

    Vampire Weekend.


    The Shins.


    The Grateful Dead.


    Katy Perry, of course, but hating her doesn't strike me as irrational at all. There are plenty of sensible reasons to despise her.

  • natepatrin

    "In a comment on his Morrissey review earlier this week..."


    BAM. Hate Shakes right there. He's why rave needed to happen.

  • the rich girls are weeping

    @Nunya B: Nooo, don't shatter my illusions. I want to like that pablum without feeling guilty about it!

  • AquaLung

    @Lucas Jensen: I will give you Kravitz's early, early, early stuff, but yeah, it's mostly his hot-shit, designer-tailored, style-over-substance attitude in the face of his crushingly mediocre music that does it.

  • Nunya B

    @the rich girls are weeping: Google for some interviews with her and hopefully you'll come to the conclusion that she should be shot on sight like I have.

  • indiefolkforever

    Ray LaMontagne...and his indiefied cousin Bon Iver. The latter, mostly due to the baffling consensus of love around his only-OK album.

  • Nicolars

    @boozyj: Hell yes. I hate her so much.

  • the rich girls are weeping

    @walkmasterflex: I loved The Hold Steady until they sold out.


    @miryam: I hated Death Cab for Cutie until they sold out.

  • Anonymous

    @Lucas Jensen: Aha Hate Heartbreak


    mostly Led Zep for me, they're an immediate channel change, kneejerk, no matter the song, but that's a purely musical response, no taking into account 'hype' or 'cred' or any of those things that make ppl hate, say, the Strokes.


    Funny I was trying to 'splain AnmlColl to a friend just today (let the backlash begin) and I was all "you know maybe that break in Tomorrow Never Knows, or that real ambient floaty thing on Pet Sounds? Yeah Animal Collective turned that snippet into not just a song or an album, but a career!" thing is, I like that pulsating harmonic arythmic 60 second break on those tracks so I like AC.

  • unperson

    I spend most of my music-listening life kinda cocooned within a few specific genres, so it's tough for a band to earn my hatred these days, mostly because I just won't encounter a lot of what's under discussion in the larger world. That being said, all the piano-girls VH1 plays in the mornings drive me insane. I thought Fiona Apple had some damn good songs, but all these singer-songwriter girls who've come along in her wake have been without exception horrible.


    Also, jam bands. The Disco Biscuits are the worst band on Earth. Phish are right up (down) there. The Dave Matthews Band? I'd rather jam flaming chopsticks in my ears.

  • Ted Striker

    @walkmasterflex:


    I think The Hold Steady question all comes down to whether or not you use "bar rock" as a compliment or an invective.

  • the rich girls are weeping

    @Nunya B: Oh, I hadn't noticed! Do they? I didn't get the impression that she takes herself too seriously!


    This is a weird one, because people always assume I will like: Captain Beefheart. UGH.


    @Jon Can Dance: I'd mention Radiohead, but I assumed that would be understood, really.

  • miryam

    Death Cab for Cutie. I'm even having trouble articulating why, I've got the hate shakes so bad. I find them to be insincere for a start. They remind me of a certain kind of "sensitive dude" who seems nice at first but will then stalk you and write songs about you and generally creep you the hell out. Also, whiny. Grrr.

  • sicksteanein

    @Marth: Yes! Anything East Coast here in Canada just kills me.


    Great Big Sea. That goddamn Spirit of the West song.

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