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		<title>By: DocStrange</title>
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		<dc:creator>DocStrange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/5139279/lil-wayne-just-wants-to-rock++but-will-rock-radio-let-him#c10307982&quot;&gt;Eugene Langley&lt;/A&gt;: Now this is where we get into a band like the Oakland indie trio Why?, who can effortlessly pull of alternative hip hop (&quot;A Sky For Shoeing Horses Under&quot;), jangely indie rock (&quot;Fatalist Palmistry&quot;) and a combination of the two (&quot;The Hollows&quot;) in the span of one album, which is one of the reasons why they&#039;re limited to the alternative stations of the Northeast and to college radio: they&#039;re too hard to playlist.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also, it seems that artists on the anticon and Def Jux labels - even if they don&#039;t do what Why? does - are ignored by hip-hop stations for not being dancey enough, and only being limited to new music programs on alternative stations (WFNX has &quot;First Contact&quot;, WBRU used to have an untitled indie rock-oriented freeform hour on Wednesday nights)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also in my big paragraph I first posted, I forgot Atmosphere. They had one hit on both charts, both with different songs - &quot;Modern Man&#039;s Hustle&quot; (2002, #18 Rap) and &quot;You&quot; (2008, #38 MR).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Anyway, it&#039;s too late for &lt;I&gt;Rebirth&lt;/I&gt; to do anything on the Modern Rock Tracks chart without involving the Beastie Boys and/or Linkin Park in a very large capacity.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/5139279/lil-wayne-just-wants-to-rock++but-will-rock-radio-let-him#c10307982">Eugene Langley</a>: Now this is where we get into a band like the Oakland indie trio Why?, who can effortlessly pull of alternative hip hop (&#8221;A Sky For Shoeing Horses Under&#8221;), jangely indie rock (&#8221;Fatalist Palmistry&#8221;) and a combination of the two (&#8221;The Hollows&#8221;) in the span of one album, which is one of the reasons why they&#8217;re limited to the alternative stations of the Northeast and to college radio: they&#8217;re too hard to playlist.</p>
<p>Also, it seems that artists on the anticon and Def Jux labels &#8211; even if they don&#8217;t do what Why? does &#8211; are ignored by hip-hop stations for not being dancey enough, and only being limited to new music programs on alternative stations (WFNX has &#8220;First Contact&#8221;, WBRU used to have an untitled indie rock-oriented freeform hour on Wednesday nights)</p>
<p>Also in my big paragraph I first posted, I forgot Atmosphere. They had one hit on both charts, both with different songs &#8211; &#8220;Modern Man&#8217;s Hustle&#8221; (2002, #18 Rap) and &#8220;You&#8221; (2008, #38 MR).</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s too late for <i>Rebirth</i> to do anything on the Modern Rock Tracks chart without involving the Beastie Boys and/or Linkin Park in a very large capacity.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Shipley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Shipley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/5139279/lil-wayne-just-wants-to-rock++but-will-rock-radio-let-him#c10307982&quot;&gt;Eugene Langley&lt;/A&gt;: Judging from &quot;Prom Queen,&quot; &lt;I&gt;Rebirth&lt;/I&gt; will be actually rock songs played by a live band, not just hip hop beats with sung vocals and squealing guitar loops. I have no idea who the audience is, if anyone, though, or what Wayne&#039;s inspiration is. I think he&#039;s just moving in this direction as the logical next step in his whole &quot;I am a Martian&quot; campaign to show how different and unique and unusual he is.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/5139279/lil-wayne-just-wants-to-rock++but-will-rock-radio-let-him#c10307982">Eugene Langley</a>: Judging from &#8220;Prom Queen,&#8221; <i>Rebirth</i> will be actually rock songs played by a live band, not just hip hop beats with sung vocals and squealing guitar loops. I have no idea who the audience is, if anyone, though, or what Wayne&#8217;s inspiration is. I think he&#8217;s just moving in this direction as the logical next step in his whole &#8220;I am a Martian&#8221; campaign to show how different and unique and unusual he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Langley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Langley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c10304413&quot;&gt;Al Shipley&lt;/a&gt;: The Shop Boys question was really more about me trying to figure out if Weezy is actually interested in rock music.  The Shop Boys seemed not be.  Like you said, an empty gesture.  But most of the other artists you mentioned, with the exception of maybe the Beastie Boys, weren&#039;t really all that into making rock music either.  Their music just appealed to rock music fans, or rock station playlist makers.  Is &lt;i&gt;Rebirth&lt;/i&gt; just gonna be &quot;Party Like a Rockstar&quot; on a larger scale with more of the actual trappings of rock music?  Is it meant to be music that appeals to rock fans, or actual rock music, or neither?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c10304413">Al Shipley</a>: The Shop Boys question was really more about me trying to figure out if Weezy is actually interested in rock music.  The Shop Boys seemed not be.  Like you said, an empty gesture.  But most of the other artists you mentioned, with the exception of maybe the Beastie Boys, weren&#8217;t really all that into making rock music either.  Their music just appealed to rock music fans, or rock station playlist makers.  Is <i>Rebirth</i> just gonna be &#8220;Party Like a Rockstar&#8221; on a larger scale with more of the actual trappings of rock music?  Is it meant to be music that appeals to rock fans, or actual rock music, or neither?</p>
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		<title>By: LostTurntable</title>
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		<dc:creator>LostTurntable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Since modern rock radio seems hell-bent on destroying rock music I don&#039;t see why they wouldn&#039;t play Lil&#039; Wayne. I&#039;m not saying this because he&#039;s a rapper, I&#039;m saying it because his attempt at &quot;rocking&quot; is ungodly bad - he should fit in between Hinder and Doughtry quite nicely.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since modern rock radio seems hell-bent on destroying rock music I don&#8217;t see why they wouldn&#8217;t play Lil&#8217; Wayne. I&#8217;m not saying this because he&#8217;s a rapper, I&#8217;m saying it because his attempt at &#8220;rocking&#8221; is ungodly bad &#8211; he should fit in between Hinder and Doughtry quite nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: doctaj</title>
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		<dc:creator>doctaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c10303858&quot;&gt;Eugene Langley&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i always took &quot;party like a rockstar&quot; as a huge parody of &quot;white&quot; rock culture.  t-t-totally, dude.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i wonder what role masculinity is playing in all this: with the exception of MIA, whose crossover didn&#039;t raise nearly the stink Weezy et. al is, every single rap artist whose supposedly controversial rock crossover mentioned in the article is a dude.  sure, some people noted that there&#039;s a huge indie influence on &quot;Kala,&quot; but that didn&#039;t seem &quot;daring&quot; or &quot;controversial&quot; in the way Weezy playing the guitar seems.  and then there&#039;s Peaches, an electro-party rapper who also plays a lot of guitar (and talks about how much she likes to play guitar on a COS track...).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c10303858">Eugene Langley</a>:</p>
<p>i always took &#8220;party like a rockstar&#8221; as a huge parody of &#8220;white&#8221; rock culture.  t-t-totally, dude.</p>
<p>i wonder what role masculinity is playing in all this: with the exception of MIA, whose crossover didn&#8217;t raise nearly the stink Weezy et. al is, every single rap artist whose supposedly controversial rock crossover mentioned in the article is a dude.  sure, some people noted that there&#8217;s a huge indie influence on &#8220;Kala,&#8221; but that didn&#8217;t seem &#8220;daring&#8221; or &#8220;controversial&#8221; in the way Weezy playing the guitar seems.  and then there&#8217;s Peaches, an electro-party rapper who also plays a lot of guitar (and talks about how much she likes to play guitar on a COS track&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: Al Shipley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Shipley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/5139279/lil-wayne-just-wants-to-rock++but-will-rock-radio-let-him#c10303858&quot;&gt;Eugene Langley&lt;/A&gt;: I&#039;m allowed to not love &quot;Hey Ya!&quot; I checked the law books, it&#039;s OK.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Shop Boyz fall under the &quot;empty gestures towards &#039;rock stardom&#039; that have little or nothing to do with rock music&quot; category.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/5139279/lil-wayne-just-wants-to-rock++but-will-rock-radio-let-him#c10303858">Eugene Langley</a>: I&#8217;m allowed to not love &#8220;Hey Ya!&#8221; I checked the law books, it&#8217;s OK.</p>
<p>Shop Boyz fall under the &#8220;empty gestures towards &#8216;rock stardom&#8217; that have little or nothing to do with rock music&#8221; category.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Langley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Langley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was with you until &quot;not a particular fan&quot; of &quot;Hey Ya!&quot;  Incomprehensible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, where do the Shop Boys stand in all of this?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was with you until &#8220;not a particular fan&#8221; of &#8220;Hey Ya!&#8221;  Incomprehensible.</p>
<p>Also, where do the Shop Boys stand in all of this?</p>
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		<title>By: Audif Jackson Winters III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Audif Jackson Winters III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;P&gt;@&lt;A href=&quot;http://idolator.com/5139279/lil-wayne-just-wants-to-rock++but-will-rock-radio-let-him#c10302626&quot;&gt;DocStrange&lt;/A&gt;: Those bits about Eminem tracks appearing on the MR chart reminded me of that brief moment where KROQ made the decision (which was strangely discussed on the air in various ways) to start playing his stuff. It was a really obvious gesture that they had jumped on nu-metal far too much, realized it was horrible, and more importantly, realized that the audience had realized it was horrible.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The &quot;we play Eminem at KROQ now&quot; experiment didn&#039;t last all that long, I think.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://idolator.com/5139279/lil-wayne-just-wants-to-rock++but-will-rock-radio-let-him#c10302626">DocStrange</a>: Those bits about Eminem tracks appearing on the MR chart reminded me of that brief moment where KROQ made the decision (which was strangely discussed on the air in various ways) to start playing his stuff. It was a really obvious gesture that they had jumped on nu-metal far too much, realized it was horrible, and more importantly, realized that the audience had realized it was horrible.</p>
<p>The &#8220;we play Eminem at KROQ now&#8221; experiment didn&#8217;t last all that long, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Raggett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned Raggett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;Why do rappers like Coldplay so much?&quot; may very well be the inane watercooler observation of the 21st century.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s because of Coldplay.  Coldplay makes any observation inane by definition.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Why do rappers like Coldplay so much?&#8221; may very well be the inane watercooler observation of the 21st century.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s because of Coldplay.  Coldplay makes any observation inane by definition.</p>
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		<title>By: kicking222</title>
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		<dc:creator>kicking222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@&lt;a href=&quot;#c10302626&quot;&gt;DocStrange&lt;/a&gt;: I don&#039;t disagree on Everlast&#039;s other hits being forgettable as far as the music-purchasing (and music-remembering) public is concerned, but I am a huge fan of Everlast&#039;s solo career (aside from his most recent album, which I&#039;ve never heard), and though &quot;What It&#039;s Like&quot; is undoubtedly his best single, I&#039;d say that &quot;Ends&quot; and &quot;I Can&#039;t Move&quot; are close behind.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, as far as the main question of this well-written piece- who will play &lt;i&gt;Rebirth&lt;/i&gt;?- I&#039;d argue that if the first single is any indication, nobody will, but only because &quot;Prom Queen&quot; is awful. But let&#039;s say the album is somewhat good- Rolling Stone gives it 3 1/2 stars, some douchebag writing for Pitchfork gives it a 6.1 but claims it has moments of true Weezy brilliance, etc.- then I think rock radio will give it some spins and let its listeners decide if stations should keep playing it. This is 2009, and everybody knows who Lil Wayne is- my dad has at least heard the name, and he thinks every rap song ever written is about &quot;ganking bitches&quot; and &quot;fuckin&#039; the hos&quot;. Rock radio (like any other format) is willing to play whatever they think will attract listeners, and conceivably, the first rock album by the person who made the top-selling album of last year will create more than enough curiosity to attract listeners... unless, of course, the album is garbage.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c10302626">DocStrange</a>: I don&#8217;t disagree on Everlast&#8217;s other hits being forgettable as far as the music-purchasing (and music-remembering) public is concerned, but I am a huge fan of Everlast&#8217;s solo career (aside from his most recent album, which I&#8217;ve never heard), and though &#8220;What It&#8217;s Like&#8221; is undoubtedly his best single, I&#8217;d say that &#8220;Ends&#8221; and &#8220;I Can&#8217;t Move&#8221; are close behind.</p>
<p>Anyway, as far as the main question of this well-written piece- who will play <i>Rebirth</i>?- I&#8217;d argue that if the first single is any indication, nobody will, but only because &#8220;Prom Queen&#8221; is awful. But let&#8217;s say the album is somewhat good- Rolling Stone gives it 3 1/2 stars, some douchebag writing for Pitchfork gives it a 6.1 but claims it has moments of true Weezy brilliance, etc.- then I think rock radio will give it some spins and let its listeners decide if stations should keep playing it. This is 2009, and everybody knows who Lil Wayne is- my dad has at least heard the name, and he thinks every rap song ever written is about &#8220;ganking bitches&#8221; and &#8220;fuckin&#8217; the hos&#8221;. Rock radio (like any other format) is willing to play whatever they think will attract listeners, and conceivably, the first rock album by the person who made the top-selling album of last year will create more than enough curiosity to attract listeners&#8230; unless, of course, the album is garbage.</p>
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