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		<title>By: How do I say this...Throwdini!?!</title>
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		<dc:creator>How do I say this...Throwdini!?!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-994122&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;swankster&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;i&gt;[D]id weezer really just suck all along and we didn’t know it? OR were they always the same band and only recently are we understanding this?&lt;/i&gt;

This is THE question about Weezer, and one that has been debated many, many times on these pages.  My personal take isn&#039;t that Weezer sucks (or has ever sucked) per se, but that Rivers&#039; love of the cheesier side of rock and bubblegum pop is what drives him musically, and ever since Matt Sharp left the band, there is no one there to reign in those cheesier impulses.  Accordingly, we get songs like Beverly Hills and Pork and Beans.  Catchy, but empty.

The lone exception is, of course, Pinkerton, which I believe most Weezer fans cite as their favorite Weezer album.  That record is awkward and awesome.  Its is heartbreaking, while at the same time hopeful.  I&#039;ve always believed the theory that Rivers&#039; wrote those songs when he was in a really dark place after the sudden, monsterous and probably, unexpected success of the Blue Album, and he holed himself up in that apartment off the 10 freeway writing those songs trying to make sense of it all.  

Whatever the reason (happiness I guess (I hope)) he&#039;s never going to go there again, and without another strong band member to pull him back from his Seacrestian-side, we are stuck with meme-mining songs from here on out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-994122" rel="nofollow">swankster</a>: <i>[D]id weezer really just suck all along and we didn’t know it? OR were they always the same band and only recently are we understanding this?</i></p>
<p>This is THE question about Weezer, and one that has been debated many, many times on these pages.  My personal take isn&#8217;t that Weezer sucks (or has ever sucked) per se, but that Rivers&#8217; love of the cheesier side of rock and bubblegum pop is what drives him musically, and ever since Matt Sharp left the band, there is no one there to reign in those cheesier impulses.  Accordingly, we get songs like Beverly Hills and Pork and Beans.  Catchy, but empty.</p>
<p>The lone exception is, of course, Pinkerton, which I believe most Weezer fans cite as their favorite Weezer album.  That record is awkward and awesome.  Its is heartbreaking, while at the same time hopeful.  I&#8217;ve always believed the theory that Rivers&#8217; wrote those songs when he was in a really dark place after the sudden, monsterous and probably, unexpected success of the Blue Album, and he holed himself up in that apartment off the 10 freeway writing those songs trying to make sense of it all.  </p>
<p>Whatever the reason (happiness I guess (I hope)) he&#8217;s never going to go there again, and without another strong band member to pull him back from his Seacrestian-side, we are stuck with meme-mining songs from here on out.</p>
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		<title>By: Swankster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swankster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a little snippet on Weezer after some soul searching early in the summer.  

http://www.merryswankster.com/archives/2009/06/retrohump_does.html

I&#039;ll summarize - a lot of us think weezer started to suck after the first two albums, but did weezer really just suck all along and we didn&#039;t know it?  OR were they always the same band and only recently are we understanding this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a little snippet on Weezer after some soul searching early in the summer.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.merryswankster.com/archives/2009/06/retrohump_does.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.merryswankster.com/archives/2009/06/retrohump_does.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll summarize &#8211; a lot of us think weezer started to suck after the first two albums, but did weezer really just suck all along and we didn&#8217;t know it?  OR were they always the same band and only recently are we understanding this?</p>
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		<title>By: Audif Jackson Winters III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Audif Jackson Winters III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m more or less agnostic about Weezer, but the reaction to their 2000s stuff by their fans/the blogosphere/etc. always perplexes me.  When did Rivers Cuomo ever claim to Ian Curtis? These guys busted out of the gate with what pretty much amount to novelty songs as singles. I&#039;ve never listened to PINKERTON, but doesn&#039;t one of the tracks on it start with the lyric, &quot;Goddamn you Japanese girls&quot; or something like that?  Point being, you can&#039;t sell out by being what you&#039;ve pretty much been from day one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m more or less agnostic about Weezer, but the reaction to their 2000s stuff by their fans/the blogosphere/etc. always perplexes me.  When did Rivers Cuomo ever claim to Ian Curtis? These guys busted out of the gate with what pretty much amount to novelty songs as singles. I&#8217;ve never listened to PINKERTON, but doesn&#8217;t one of the tracks on it start with the lyric, &#8220;Goddamn you Japanese girls&#8221; or something like that?  Point being, you can&#8217;t sell out by being what you&#8217;ve pretty much been from day one.</p>
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		<title>By: dyfl</title>
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		<dc:creator>dyfl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just bought this on the aforementioned $4 deal. I&#039;m a Weezer fan and have stuck with them as the album-quality curve has reset itself to its current level, and I can tell you that it&#039;s a modern Weezer album: a few tracks that indisputably stand right alongside their best pop singles, and then a bunch of songs that could be there or not. Their best-of is still going to be beyond sick someday. Enjoy the promo campaign (Snuggies! Kenny G!). Add &quot;...I Want You To&quot; to your Weezer iTunes playlist. Life goes on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just bought this on the aforementioned $4 deal. I&#8217;m a Weezer fan and have stuck with them as the album-quality curve has reset itself to its current level, and I can tell you that it&#8217;s a modern Weezer album: a few tracks that indisputably stand right alongside their best pop singles, and then a bunch of songs that could be there or not. Their best-of is still going to be beyond sick someday. Enjoy the promo campaign (Snuggies! Kenny G!). Add &#8220;&#8230;I Want You To&#8221; to your Weezer iTunes playlist. Life goes on.</p>
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		<title>By: ObtuseIntolerant</title>
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		<dc:creator>ObtuseIntolerant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say...I had grown fairly bored of Weezer, in a current sense. But the absolute rage and disgust with which the &quot;blog-rock acolytes&quot; have received this album, it has captured my attention and my affection and I haven&#039;t heard Raditude yet.  &lt;i&gt;Extremely catchy, fist-pumping, escapist pop?&lt;/i&gt;  Well sure! Can&#039;t say I don&#039;t love to be contrary, depending on the critics in question. Looking very forward to listening to the album tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say&#8230;I had grown fairly bored of Weezer, in a current sense. But the absolute rage and disgust with which the &#8220;blog-rock acolytes&#8221; have received this album, it has captured my attention and my affection and I haven&#8217;t heard Raditude yet.  <i>Extremely catchy, fist-pumping, escapist pop?</i>  Well sure! Can&#8217;t say I don&#8217;t love to be contrary, depending on the critics in question. Looking very forward to listening to the album tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: Audif Jackson Winters III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Audif Jackson Winters III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Album is 4 bucks at amazon today.</description>
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		<title>By: Maura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the Warrant-worthy ode to post-puberty&quot;

O RLY???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the Warrant-worthy ode to post-puberty&#8221;</p>
<p>O RLY???</p>
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