<![CDATA[Idolator: MySpace Music]]> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/idolator.com.png <![CDATA[Idolator: MySpace Music]]> http://idolator.com/tag/myspace music http://idolator.com/tag/myspace music <![CDATA[CNet is reporting that the long-vacant CEO ... ]]> CNet is reporting that the long-vacant CEO post at MySpace Music is about to be filled, and somehow the name they're reporting isn't "Dan Gibson". Courtney Holt, MTV Networks' executive vice president of digital music and media, looks to be the choice to fill the position with her his "experience," "relevant executive background," and "computer that can access MySpace without crashing." The timing is good for Holt, as her his current employer is expected to make job cuts in several divisions including her his own. [CNet]

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http://idolator.com/5072256/ http://idolator.com/5072256/ Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:30:00 EDT Dan Gibson http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5072256&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[MySpace Music Warms To The Idea Of Indies (A Little)]]> There was some controversy around the role of indie labels in MySpace Music (the digital distribution center that was going to change the music world as we know it!); those labels wouldn't receive the same equity in the site's profits as the majors, essentially bringing the same stratification that exists in the old-time music business to the new music economy. MySpace still isn't offering equity to those labels, but it did manage to sign an indie collective featuring such high-profile names as Animal Collective and... Chairlift?



When Chairlift—better known as "oh, another act that's trying to ride the iPod ad train?"—is one of the "bigger" indie acts touted in a press release announcing a contract-signing, the breakthrough quotient of said deal might be called into question. Indeed, the signing of IODA seems to be more about quantity than quality.

On Thursday, however, MySpace unveiled a deal that should begin to quiet the critics. The News Corp. division announced it had licensed over one million tracks from IODA, a San Francisco-based digital distributor of independent music. IODA's artist roster includes indie faves such as Paw Tracks's Animal Collective and Kanine Records' Chairlift.

"The independent music community has been a cornerstone of MySpace Music," said Chris DeWolfe, co-founder and CEO of MySpace in a statement. We're thrilled to welcome IODA and its more than 50,000 artists to MySpace Music."

MySpace's critics said the social network was now turning its backs on the same artists who had been instrumental in its growth.

Frank Hajdu, executive director of MySpace Music, says nothing could be further from the truth. "There has been a lot of public misconception about MySpace and its involvement with the independents with the launch," he said. "We've always been committed to the independents from the outset."

He declined to discuss the terms of the IODA deal. Kevin Arnold, CEO of IODA, was more forthcoming. He said it had taken a while for IODA to strike a deal with MySpace because the social network had initially offered no guarantees, only a share of the music service's ad revenues.

IODA won't get equity in MySpace Music. But Arnold said MySpace had sweetened its offer in recent weeks. "We made significant improvements over the previous proposal," he said. "There are a number of things that are important to us-some guarantees and assurances that there will be revenue for streaming our music."

IODA does have some important imprints in its catalog (Arts & Crafts, Fat Cat, Relapse, Rounder), but for each of those labels, there's Kanine Records (home of Chairlift), Rave Police Records, and Geykido Comet Records. MySpace announced they were still in negotiations with Merlin—which is possibly the biggest fish in the indie pond (it has distributors like Domino, Koch and Beggars under their umbrella) and one of the most outspoken opponents to the existing payment structure for indies.

The question unlikely to be answered by the people at IODA is: Why sign on with Myspace Music? The deals being signed are unlikely to adquately serve as payback for the eyeballs indie labels have brought to MySpace in the past and (likely) the future, especially since the majors are getting partial ownership in the venture while indies are left to fight over the scraps. Are smaller labels just making sure they get something from the site, even if said wrangling results in setting a bad precedent for their music's value?

After uproar, MySpace signs indie music deal [CNN Money]
IODA Partners with MySpace Music [Marketwatch]

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http://idolator.com/5068272/myspace-music-warms-to-the-idea-of-indies-a-little http://idolator.com/5068272/myspace-music-warms-to-the-idea-of-indies-a-little Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:30:00 EDT Dan Gibson http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5068272&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[Oh, That's Annoying]]> After my fourth stream of the new Lily Allen single, an ad for a certain fast-food company that offers its wares to aspiring "Dollar Menunaires" popped up over the player, and I had to click it—and, you know, read it—in order to get things going again. Of course, I didn't realize what was gumming up the works until I clicked over to the tab, curious as far as why the music I was listening to had suddenly stopped. Ah, it's nice to see that MySpace Music is still reaching new heights in the battle to figure out a way to make music on the Internet even less convenient to legally consume than it already is!

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http://idolator.com/5067899/oh-thats-annoying http://idolator.com/5067899/oh-thats-annoying Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:45:00 EDT Maura Johnston http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5067899&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[YouTube Starts Selling Music, I Think]]> Nearly two years ago, Google dropped $1.65 billion on YouTube. As one can imagine, the company's imagineers are trying to come up with all sorts of fun ways to make money, including a doohickey that links to Amazon's MP3 store and iTunes from videos. There are also plans to sell concert tickets and merch and other things. Sounds neat, right?



Well, sort of. Instead of allowing this to become a thriving and exciting new marketplace for artists to promote and sell their wares, is this move really about more than Google/YouTube's bottom line? YouTube garnered a reputation as something of a major copyright-infringer in its earliest days, but it's recently started playing more nicely with major labels like EMI and Universal Music Group. With its copyright battle still raging with Viacom, Google is probably, more than anything, trying to placate its biggest content partners—the major media conglomerates. Basically, it's another way of the site saying, "Look, we're all in this together... now you can make even more money off the kid who taped the video off MTV and posted it!"

This is worrying:

Music labels could choose to place the e-commerce links next to their own videos or on videos uploaded by users, whose images or soundtrack they identified using YouTube’s Content ID system, which allows content owners to find unauthorized material on the site.

It all sounds great until you get to that part about "unauthorized material." I can see the major labels using a wide definition of the term, one that asks the question "who gets to monetize what?" If an artist released a song on two different records on two different labels, and it's a live video of said song, who gets the cut of that? Is there a pecking order based around which company has more money to throw at lawyers?

For example, this godheadSilo cover of "In The Air Tonight" I'm about to post for no reason other than it's totally boss. W gets the MP3 link on that, if anyone does? What's to stop Virgin or Atlantic from coming through and linking to Phil Collins from this, since the song was written by "their" artist? Or will users just bypass the helpfully embedded links and, if they're inspired by buy something, head to their old reliable sources for digital music? Just like MySpace Music, record companies assume that "access and convenience" automatically equals "sales," and that's not necessarily a truism. (Artists, of course, have zero control over any of this.)

Google Puts Tunes From YouTube A Click Away [New York Times]

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http://idolator.com/5061143/youtube-starts-selling-music-i-think http://idolator.com/5061143/youtube-starts-selling-music-i-think Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:30:00 EDT Lucas Jensen http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5061143&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[Someone In The Digital Music Business Making Sense Shocker!]]> I'm not ready to forgive Last.fm for what its application did to my computer (although I should probably update my Commodore 128, so that might not be their fault), but the social-music site's COO, Spencer Hyman, talked to Forbes about the company's place in the post-MySpace Music economy—and he might have established himself as one of the few sane voices in digital music in the process.



Hyman disses MySpace for not having the database to back up its much-hyped initiative, scolds the music business for being slow on streams, and discusses outdated pricing models. After spending so much time reading about the doomed premise behind something like Comes With Music, this is all a breath of fresh air, especially coming from someone employed by CBS.

Forbes.com: MySpace Music just launched. Like Last.fm, it's owned by major media and sells advertising against online music streams. Is there room in the market for both?

Hyman: MySpace is great as a social network: I've got an account. But music discovery is really much more than that. It's about being recommended new stuff, being told new stuff. To do that, you need a huge database of information....

But aren't recommendation algorithms old hat on the Internet by now?

It's not just the recommendation engine; it's all the stuff that goes with it. So I like Tina Turner, there's an amazing group for Tina Turner on Last.fm, and I think probably before Tina Turner even knows she's going to be in concert, they know where she's going to be doing it. And that's just invaluable....

Legal, free streaming is a newer phenomenon on the Internet. What's the issue?

We always said to the labels, "You have to let us do this," because what's happening at the moment is people are getting the recommendations off of Last.fm and then they're just going to all the illegal peer-to-peer sites.

They're more than familiar with that problem. What's the state of the digital music business today?

I think what you've got with the Internet is the fact that the labels and the collective side have realized that they need to make sure there is proper sharing of all the revenues which are generated with all the content creators. And I think that's correct. I think the problem, though, is that there is a lot of posturing going on, on both sides, as to what the right model is to monetize that. The [potential] market is huge, but at the moment, it's all on the peer-to-peer networks

What's refreshing about this interview is that Hyman doesn't blame the consumer or the P2P networks themselves for the dominance of piracy in today's music marketplace, but the music business itself for not learning the lessons from the popularity of the "free music" model. Then again, we still live in an era when labels won't allow people to embed their favorite artist's music video on their blog, so it might be a while before the "posturing" comes to an end. Hyman recognizes that as well.

Where does that leave digital music going forward?

I think everyone understands that as the market matures, the economics will need to be revisited and re-looked at. Because it's much better that you get 10,000 people [listening at] one-tenth of a cent [per stream] than it is to get 10 people [listening at] $.01 [per stream]. The aim of this game is to get as much money overall as possible. It's not to get hung up on a per-stream rate or a minimum share of revenue.

It must be tough to align everyone with so many interests involved.

The music industry is blessed with a cornucopia of lawyers.

I would have liked to hear the tone in his voice as he uttered the word "blessed".

The Digital Music Fight, Round Two [Forbes]

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http://idolator.com/5060057/someone-in-the-digital-music-business-making-sense-shocker http://idolator.com/5060057/someone-in-the-digital-music-business-making-sense-shocker Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:30:00 EDT Dan Gibson http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5060057&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[Techcrunch's Michael Arrington—a long ... ]]> Techcrunch's Michael Arrington—a long proponent of never paying for recorded music ever because musicians don't deserve it and anyone can write a song that he wants to hear so why should he ever have to worry about things like quality control (see, in his world, the only people who should ever make money for their labors are people who start companies that make semi-useless Facebook widgets)—thinks MySpace Music is totes awesome. Why? Well, because it involves more free music for him, of course. Of course, all that free music comes via streams, which makes me wonder if dude is going to try and jumpstart the trend of hauling around his laptop on one shoulder, a la the way people carried around boomboxes back in the '80s? UPDATE: Haha, looks like there's a much simpler explanation: He's sleeping with the head of MySpace's PR department. Ah, geek love... [Techcrunch]

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http://idolator.com/5055209/ http://idolator.com/5055209/ Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:30:00 EDT Maura Johnston http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5055209&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[MySpace Music Will Not Let You Buy Whatever Popular Single You Like]]> whatever.jpgThe just-launched MySpace Music is all about making money for the labels, right? So it would behoove them to have songs that the people want to buy available for purchase on the service, no? Come with me as I try to buy the top 10 songs on this week's Hot Digital Tracks chart by using MySpace's widgetry:



1. Pink, "So What"
Streamable from Pink's MySpace page; not available for purchase via MySpace Music widget, despite presence on Amazon.

2. Kanye West, "Love Lockdown"
First 1:30 streamable from West's MySpace page; not available for purchase via MySpace Music widget, despite presence on Amazon.

3. T.I., "Whatever You Like"
Streamable from T.I.'s MySpace page; not available for purchase via widget, despite presence on Amazon.

4. Taylor Swift, "Love Story"
Seems to be bypassing MySpace Music's official player/commerce widget, opting instead to pre-sell her forthcoming album on MySpace (with the option to buy a $75 box set!) and give people the download for "Love Story" instantly.

5. Rihanna, "Disturbia"
Streamable from Rihanna's site; official version available for purchase if the user uses the album pull-down menu and selects Good Girl Gone Bad.

6. M.I.A., "Paper Planes"
Streamable from M.I.A.'s MySpace page; official version available for purchase if the user uses the album pull-down menu and selects either Kala or the "Planes" remix EP.

7. Katy Perry, "Hot N Cold"
Streamable from Perry's MySpace page; not available for purchase via widget, despite presence on Amazon. (On the bright side, the awfulness of having to visit Perry's page was mitigated slightly by a pop-up ad for Ted Leo & The Pharmacists. Teach the children, Ted!)

8. Jason Mraz, "I'm Yours"
Streamable from Mraz's MySpace page; official version available for purchase if the user uses the album pull-down menu and selects the right version of the "I'm Yours" digital single.

9. Estelle feat. Kanye West, "American Boy"
Streamable from Estelle's MySpace page; not available for purchase via widget, despite presence on Amazon. (It would appear that the Estelle insta-tribute band the Studio All-Stars don't have a MySpace page.)

10. David Archuleta, "Crush"
Streamable from Archuleta's MySpace page; available for purchase if you select "Crush" from the pull-down menu in the widget.

So, out of the ten most saleable songs in the U.S. right now, MySpace Music is letting its users purchase four of them—and all four have to be navigated to, instead of them being presented to the user straight off. Can someone tell me why Tom & Co. felt like they had to launch this thing today, before it was ready for prime-time at all? I know that the site's supposed to be "iterative," but not having six of the top ten singles for purchase on what is being pitched as a track-by-track marketplace is not unlike trying to open an outlet of The Gap that's missing jeans.

Earlier: MySpace Music Gets Ready For A Big Amazon Affiliate Check

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http://idolator.com/5054743/myspace-music-will-not-let-you-buy-whatever-popular-single-you-like http://idolator.com/5054743/myspace-music-will-not-let-you-buy-whatever-popular-single-you-like Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:30:00 EDT Maura Johnston http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5054743&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[MySpace Music Gets Ready For A Big Amazon Affiliate Check]]> A week and change after schedule, the much-ballyhooed MySpace Music—in which the fading social-networking service and the major labels come together in hopes of making at least some money off their technology—has launched. Some clicking around reveals that it's not really that much of a great leap forward as far as the consumer experience goes; the number of streamable songs from artists on participating labels (Universal, Sony, and Warner; EMI has signed on, too) is way up in some cases, thanks to the new site's desire to be the biggest Amazon affiliate ever. But the big innovation—aside from an upgraded music player that also has links to Amazon's MP3 store embedded within—being the ability to create playlists from songs that are streaming on the service. Streaming playlists with Amazon affiliate links attached? It's like 2005 all over again!



Independent labels are still absent from the "streaming for dollars" portion of the service, as is the catalog of EMI. (Update: EMI's catalog will apparently trickle in soon.) This results in a few browsing hiccups; when you visit Coldplay's profile, for example, and select Parachutes from the pull-down menu, you are greeted with one streamable song: "Trouble," which was uploaded to the band's page long enough ago for it to have received some 3.8 million plays. The same hiccupy browsing goes for indie bands like Ponytail. Why the discography feature was turned on for artists whose labels aren't participating in the revenue-sharing program is beyond me; it creates something of a dead-end for users, who can browse the songs the bands have uploaded by album, which is semi-pointless and usually results in users heading back to the "Featured Playlist" (which is code for "songs that were streaming from the site before today's changeover").

There are a few other quirks. Some new releases, which one would think would be high-priority for a venture that's expressly designed for making bank, are missing: Fall Out Boy's new single is streamable, but not available for purchase, and I couldn't find Ne-Yo's Year Of The Gentleman for streaming or purchasing, despite him being the No. 10 major-label artist on the site. The merging of Amazon's data with the streaming player also results in a few glitches in the discographies, although I suppose merge failures like that are to be expected with large-scale launches such as this. (And I seriously doubt anyone is looking at MySpace Music as a possible All Music Guide alternative.)

It's details and flaws like these that make the MySpace Music that launched today look like a rushed, desperate attempt to just get something to market, despite the amount of energy and press-gladhanding that was poured into it in the run-up to its launch. Will it result in a slight uptick for Amazon MP3's music revenues in the short term? Perhaps. But I suspect that a year or so from now, we'll be looking back on today much as we did on the day that Snocap first introduced its "buy this MP3" widgetry to the site—as a bump in the road, but nothing all that special in the long run.

MySpace Music [MySpace]

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http://idolator.com/5054654/myspace-music-gets-ready-for-a-big-amazon-affiliate-check http://idolator.com/5054654/myspace-music-gets-ready-for-a-big-amazon-affiliate-check Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:30:00 EDT Maura Johnston http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5054654&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[MySpace Music Screenshots Leak: Can You Spot The Differences?]]> MySpace Music—the joint venture between the social-networking site and the major labels that is apparently going to revolutionize digital music by putting opportunities to actually buy songs and other music-related widgetry right into artists' profile pages on the site—is still trudging toward its now-one-week-late launch, and I guess to remind people that we're supposed to be excited about the whole thing, someone leaked a few blurry screenshots of the project. (Kind of odd that the screenshots of a site that's all about making money for Big Music were leaked to the nerd-insider site TechCrunch, which is firmly in the "music should be free at all times" camp, but I'm sure the fine people at MySpace know exactly what they're doing in the PR department. Cough.) What new, exciting changes will you see the next time you visit your favorite band's MySpace page? Let's do a side-by-side comparison of these alleged prototypes and what they're replacing.



The current versions of these pages are on top; the "new" versions are on bottom.

SCREENSHOT 1: THE MAIN PAGE





I guess it looks slightly cleaner. Although one has to wonder, with all the service's indie label-related issues, whether or not the removal of the Top Artists section was an easy way to de-emphasize artists whose albums aren't distributed by one of the site's major-label revenue-sharers. Especially since the always-sketchy "top artists" list, which currently features a bunch of artists whose material is pushed by Atlantic Records in its "indie" list, remains. Although I guess that could also be looked at as a strategic move.

SCREENSHOT 2: THE PROFILE PAGE





Well, I'll give them this: That commerce interface is sure more elegant than the old Snocap widgets. I eagerly await half of the musicians on the site having their 1,945 embedded Flash widgets curl up and stop working as a result of mysterious incompatibilities with it.

There's a third screenshot that TechCrunch is saying is a "user admin panel," although it looks like it may be cleaned-up version of Song History to me:

Much like the future of MySpace Music, however, it's way too blurry to make out.

Leaked MySpace Music Screenshots [TechCrunch]

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http://idolator.com/5053509/myspace-music-screenshots-leak-can-you-spot-the-differences http://idolator.com/5053509/myspace-music-screenshots-leak-can-you-spot-the-differences Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:00:00 EDT Maura Johnston http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5053509&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[MySpace Music Ad Un(?)intentionally Surrounded By Reminders Of Music Business' Glory Days]]> The probably delayed launch of MySpace Music has coincided with the social-networking service buying ad space in New York's Times Square and on Los Angeles' Sunset Boulevard—because when an online service pours a lot of money into ads, it's always a good sign about the viability of its business, right? But what's more notable about the Times Square ad (pic above, via Songs For Soap) isn't the fact that one of the Jonas Brothers looks like he's hoisting an Urban Sombrero above his head. It's what's in the immediate vicinity of the ads, and how they represent big music's accelerated decline in the new millennium.



Take your field of vision past the Planet Hollywood banners, and what do you see? On one side, you have the Virgin Megastore, which was once a monument to the power of music retail and is now waiting to be brought to its knees by commercial real estate developers. (That is, of course, if the whole market for retail floor space doesn't crater sometime in the next six months.) On the other, you have banners for albums like Christina Aguilera's Stripped and Elvis Presley's #1s, both of which came out in the comparatively SoundScan-soaked days of 2002, and both of which come as a result of said building serving as the headquarters of the German conglomerate Bertelsmann—a company which, of course, is trying to extricate itself from its music-business ties as I type this.

Nice positioning, guys. You couldn't have angled for a spot near, say, the Hard Rock Cafe?

MySpace Music Becomes Physical, Not Virtual, Reality [Songs For Soap]

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http://idolator.com/5051376/myspace-music-ad-unintentionally-surrounded-by-reminders-of-music-business-glory-days http://idolator.com/5051376/myspace-music-ad-unintentionally-surrounded-by-reminders-of-music-business-glory-days Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:30:00 EDT Maura Johnston http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5051376&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[The launch of MySpace Music—you know, ... ]]> myspacesuckstshirt.jpgThe launch of MySpace Music—you know, the joint venture between MySpace and the major labels that's going to change everything, or at least get the biz some semi-positive press for a couple of days after it launches—is rumored to be delayed until at least next week. Or maybe later. Where can I place a bet on this thing actually launching before the end of the quarter? I'm feeling lucky! [Silicon Alley Insider]

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http://idolator.com/5050765/ http://idolator.com/5050765/ Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:15:00 EDT Maura Johnston http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5050765&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[MySpace Music, the ass-saving joint venture ... ]]> myspacemusic.jpgMySpace Music, the ass-saving joint venture between the major labels and the buggy place for friends that was supposed to launch today but will instead bow sometime this week, is apparently hoping to raise "well over $100 million" in anticipation of it being worth—hold on to your hats—some $2 billion. (Or more!) Can someone please explain to me how this might work, what with investment banks being kind of in a bad place right now and the concept of people paying for music being in an even worse spot? Sure, the service is locking up a ton of advertisers (can't wait for "Toyota Tuesdays," dude!), but $2 billion for what's essentially a social-networking gloss on an Amazon affiliate program? How does that work—I really need to know. [Techcrunch]

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http://idolator.com/401118/ http://idolator.com/401118/ Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:30:00 EDT Maura Johnston http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=401118&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[An Open Letter To The MySpace Music People]]> myspacesuckstshirt.jpgDear MySpace HR department: I know you guys are having a hard time finding a CEO for your big joint venture with the music business, having asked a ton of people, all of whom have turned you guys down. Sure, the whole structure over there is a mess, with people from Universal Music and News Corp. making demands, and there's no particular structure through which to make money. But if Andy Schuon, formerly of CBS Radio, doesn't take the gig, I'm probably still available. CNet mentions that your company should consider someone from iTunes, and I've compiled quite a few Essentials for the site on a freelance basis. That sort of counts, I think. I don't have all that pride baggage of needing to make the site successful to feed my own ego, so that should help when the whole thing ends up shuttering in a year or two. Give me a call and we can talk benefits. [CNet]

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http://idolator.com/400952/an-open-letter-to-the-myspace-music-people http://idolator.com/400952/an-open-letter-to-the-myspace-music-people Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:30:00 EDT Dan Gibson http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=400952&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[MySpace music: It's about as well-thought-out ... ]]> MySpace music: It's about as well-thought-out as you would expect, i.e. it still doesn't have a CEO or a launch date even though it was announced to much fanfare back in April. Anyone want to offer up odds on this thing actually launching by the end of 2008? [Silicon Alley Insider]

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http://idolator.com/399070/ http://idolator.com/399070/ Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:00:00 EDT Maura Johnston http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=399070&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[Surprise! Indie Labels Probably Won't Make As Much Scratch From MySpace Music As Majors Will]]> Are indie bands going to get screwed by MySpace Music, the social-networking site's joint venture with Sony BMG, Universal Music Group, and Warner Music Group? If by "screwed" you mean "not getting as much of a share of the ad revenues as the big boys, if they get any at all," then the answer is "of course." Listening Post had a little chat with MySpace co-founder Chris DeWolfe on the topic of spreading MySpace Music's wealth, and he said that there were just too many bands out there to give a share of ad revenue to every single group of guitar-toting bros with a page on his site. And if they don't like it, they should remember how they should be happy that their bands got access to the "free platform" that MySpace has to offer, what with its unparalleled ability to connect bands with fans from all over the world... and then make those fans think that they're spammers after their accounts get phished.

Wired: Is MySpace Music open to giving equity deals to digital distributors such as The Orchard or Ioda?

DeWolfe: We're open to extending our equity deals to the right partners, but at a certain point, you can't extend equity to everyone. What we originally set out to do was create a platform where every artist in the world would not only have a free promotional platform like they do right now — we're providing a free service — but also to create additional revenue streams for them.

A nice non-answer there, right? But it gets better!

Wired: Will unsigned bands on MySpace Music have a way to participate in the ad revenue?

DeWolfe: We don't really have the mechanism right now to develop an affiliate program or a payout structure for millions and millions of bands.... We started with the major music companies, and we're talking to the consortiums because the indie bands are really the heart of MySpace — it's how MySpace Music started. We value their contribution, and one of our initial missions was to help artists that didn't get signed by major labels to create a living based on their art.

We first did that by creating this free platform where they could get fans from all over the world that they otherwise wouldn't have been able to reach; and provide a platform for those fans to become friends with those independent artists. And when those independent artists go on the road, they can sell out their shows and make money through touring and merchandise and tickets and all of that. We're trying to extend those revenue streams to the independent artists. This is all meant to be a very, very positive movement for them.

So maybe bands who are affiliated with the Orchard and IODA will see some money... someday. But I'd file that last claim under "I'll believe it when I see it."

MySpace Music Won't Give Equity to Indie Bands [Listening Post]

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http://idolator.com/381676/surprise-indie-labels-probably-wont-make-as-much-scratch-from-myspace-music-as-majors-will http://idolator.com/381676/surprise-indie-labels-probably-wont-make-as-much-scratch-from-myspace-music-as-majors-will Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:45:00 EDT Maura Johnston http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=381676&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[This Just In: Major Labels And MySpace May Not Have Indies' Best Interests At Heart]]> So, MySpace Music! It's going to change the distribution of recorded music as we know it... or at the very least entice people into giving their credit card numbers over to the site, thus setting themselves up for a lifetime of fake Macy's gift card offers. No, but seriously, it's going to be an incredible leap forward for the entire industry, because it'll give money to artists and labels and allow people to listen to said artists' and labels' music for free, right? Well, actually, that whole "giving money" part may not be true for the many independent labels out there whose bands account for millions of pages on the site, but who aren't part of the joint venture that MySpace has entered into with three of the four major labels. A letter from the indie-leaning digital distributor The Orchard outlines some of the concerns that those not affiliated with a major label might have about the service:

* News reports indicate that this new service is a joint venture between MySpace and at least three of the four major labels, and that in exchange for supplying the store with their music, among other possible contributions, the major labels have been given equity in the new venture

* If news reports are true, it is unclear whether and how the equity the participating major labels received will be shared by them with their artists, or with the independent labels they simply distribute (yet count in their overall market share, and whose music they presumably intend to include in the MySpace service

* To our understanding, independents have not been offered any equity. However, we will make a strong and unequivocal commitment to you: very simply, if we negotiate for and receive equity, we will share it with you

* We appreciate MySpace as a unique social phenomenon and the fact that many of you rely on MySpace as an important part of your web presence and fan connection. Thus, we engage with MySpace respectful of the role MySpace plays for many of you. We do not take this opportunity lightly, and we will constructively but aggressively advocate for you ... as we always do

* Digital retail is fairer than physical brick-and-mortar retail ever was. iTunes led by example and helped to shift music industry dynamics towards a more level playing field for all industry participants (for example, in their continued efforts to further standardize pricing, and their reasonably democratic way of dealing with placements on the site). In that light, if reports are true, the apparent MySpace licensing approach is troubling. It hearkens back to a time none of us wants to revisit ... Where independent artists and labels were third-class citizens in the global music economy, instead of the second-class citizenship (with a good chance for an upgrade to first) that we enjoy today

So let me get this straight... you're worried about major labels possibly engaging in a practice that might knock those uppity indies back into the role they were in before digital distribution up and made everything go haywire, thus taking money out of the majors' pockets and spreading it around to more people. Really, how could you even think that they wouldn't want to engage in a little bit of anticompetitive chicanery, The Orchard? Have you not read Hit Men lately?

Full Text Of Orchard's MySpace Letter To Labels [Hypebot]

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http://idolator.com/377773/this-just-in-major-labels-and-myspace-may-not-have-indies-best-interests-at-heart http://idolator.com/377773/this-just-in-major-labels-and-myspace-may-not-have-indies-best-interests-at-heart Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:15:00 EDT Maura Johnston http://idolator.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=377773&view=rss&microfeed=true