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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Maura</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- TIMER:start:[1338101867.79] --><!-- CACHE:REDRAW:start:[ice-post-5275132-0-1-1]{10000} --><img src="http://cdn.idolator.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/medium_nin1med-180x120.jpg" class="" style="height:120px;" alt="" /><br/>The AV Club's interview with Trent Reznor is a good read, but I of course liked what he had to say about the brave new digital-music world: "The thing that I learned from Radiohead is, I don’t want to ask you what you think it’s worth. 'Hey, I just worked a year on this thing.' 'Well, that’s worth 10 cents.' 'Hey, fuck you!' The Saul [<a href="http://idolator.com/340535/trent-reznor-on-niggy-tardust-sales-thanks-for-being-jerks-internet">Williams</a>] thing was a lesson. I naively thought at that time that if you gave the public the choice of do the right thing or not, I thought people would actually do it. Five bucks for an album? And I found that most people, no, they really don’t want to do that. I think I laughed about that and got shit-canned by everybody for whining about wanting to get paid for work that I did. The steps we’ve taken since then, I think, have gotten closer to something that approaches a business model. It doesn’t work for bands that nobody knows yet. These are things I’m thinking about." Much more at the link. [<a href="http://www.avclub.com/articles/trent-reznor-of-nine-inch-nails,32806/">AV Club</a>] <a class="more" href="http://idolator.com/5275132/5275132">More&#160;&#187;</a><!-- CACHE:REDRAW:end:[ice-post-5275132-0-1-1] --><!-- TIMER:end:[1338101867.8]{0.0145540237427} -->]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- TIMER:start:[1338101867.8] --><!-- CACHE:REDRAW:start:[ice-post-5275132-0-1-0]{10000} --><img src="http://cdn.idolator.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/medium_nin1med-180x120.jpg" class="" style="height:120px;" alt="" /><br/><p>The AV Club&#8217;s interview with Trent Reznor is a good read, but I of course liked what he had to say about the brave new digital-music world: &#8220;The thing that I learned from Radiohead is, I don’t want to ask you what you think it’s worth. &#8216;Hey, I just worked a year on this thing.&#8217; &#8216;Well, that’s worth 10 cents.&#8217; &#8216;Hey, fuck you!&#8217; The Saul [<a href="http://idolator.com/340535/trent-reznor-on-niggy-tardust-sales-thanks-for-being-jerks-internet">Williams</a>] thing was a lesson. I naively thought at that time that if you gave the public the choice of do the right thing or not, I thought people would actually do it. Five bucks for an album? And I found that most people, no, they really don’t want to do that. I think I laughed about that and got shit-canned by everybody for whining about wanting to get paid for work that I did. The steps we’ve taken since then, I think, have gotten closer to something that approaches a business model. It doesn’t work for bands that nobody knows yet. These are things I’m thinking about.&#8221; Much more at the link. [<a href="http://www.avclub.com/articles/trent-reznor-of-nine-inch-nails,32806/">AV Club</a>]</p>
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		<title>On The Borders: What People Aren&#8217;t Buying</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lucas Jensen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<!-- TIMER:start:[1338101867.82] --><!-- CACHE:REDRAW:start:[ice-post-5194950-0-1-1]{10000} --><br/><p>As part of book giant Borders' <a href="http://idolator.com/5151592/borders-to-have-a-really-big-sale-on-cds-in-preparation-for-decimating-its-inventory">slashing of its DVD and CD sections</a>, the store here in Athens, Ga., is selling its CD and DVD inventory at 50% off. The standard pre-liquidation price for a CD? $18.99. So at 50% off, most of the remaining inventory was still as much as it would have been at Best Buy, Target, or Wal-Mart. In fact, in most cases the prices were exactly twice what they were at the Big Boxers, particularly in the DVD/Blu-Ray section. I decided to document the dregs of Borders' music collection to see what people weren't buying, much like I did <a href="http://idolator.com/5112159/circuit-citys-island-of-misfit-cds-what-people-arent-buying">last year during the Circuit City fire sale</a>. All of the releases documented after the jump had at least four copies for sale.</p> <a class="more" href="http://idolator.com/5194950/on-the-borders-what-people-arent-buying">More&#160;&#187;</a><!-- CACHE:REDRAW:end:[ice-post-5194950-0-1-1] --><!-- TIMER:end:[1338101867.82]{0.00275611877441} -->]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- TIMER:start:[1338101867.83] --><!-- CACHE:REDRAW:start:[ice-post-5194950-0-1-0]{10000} --><br/><p><img src="http://cdn.idolator.com/assets/images/2009/04/custom_1238649137815_IMG_0504.JPG" width="340" height="255">As part of book giant Borders&#8217; <a href="http://idolator.com/5151592/borders-to-have-a-really-big-sale-on-cds-in-preparation-for-decimating-its-inventory">slashing of its DVD and CD sections</a>, the store here in Athens, Ga., is selling its CD and DVD inventory at 50% off. The standard pre-liquidation price for a CD? $18.99. So at 50% off, most of the remaining inventory was still as much as it would have been at Best Buy, Target, or Wal-Mart. In fact, in most cases the prices were exactly twice what they were at the Big Boxers, particularly in the DVD/Blu-Ray section. I decided to document the dregs of Borders&#8217; music collection to see what people weren&#8217;t buying, much like I did <a href="http://idolator.com/5112159/circuit-citys-island-of-misfit-cds-what-people-arent-buying">last year during the Circuit City fire sale</a>. All of the releases documented after the jump had at least four copies for sale.</p>
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The shelves are picked over. If all of the Borders are on the same timetable, you better hustle. I did see that awesome <em>Forever Changes</em> two-disc collection for 10 bucks.</p>
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This is endemic of what I saw. <a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged THE KILLERS" href="http://idolator.com/tag/the-killers/">The Killers</a>, <em>Bavarian Tradition</em>, and a 2009 Grammy Nominees CD, all lying on top of <em>Igor</em> on Blu-Ray. I don&#8217;t know why, but this is one of the saddest things I have ever seen.</p>
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<a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged THE AIRBORNE TOXIC EVENT" href="http://idolator.com/tag/the-airborne-toxic-event/">The Airborne Toxic Event</a> and <a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged LOUDON WAINWRIGHT III" href="http://idolator.com/tag/loudon-wainwright-iii/">Loudon Wainwright III</a>: together again for the first time. These guys were all over the place, never where they were supposed to be. Not a bad deal on TATE, if you&#8217;re into that sorta thing.</p>
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There was plenty of Sinatra to be found, all of it originally overpriced. These are great records, sure, but they had Super Savers in there for $16.99!</p>
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Maybe someone at Borders was a big <a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged ANDRE RIEU" href="http://idolator.com/tag/andre-rieu/">Andre Rieu</a> fan. There were at least 30 of his CDs all told. Looks like a nice enough guy. He&#8217;s really going for on the cover of <em>New Year&#8217;s in Vienna</em>.</p>
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Not to pick on Mindi Abair, but she joined Andre Rieu as the most un-bought artist at Borders. There was another stack there, next to a whole bunch of Michael Franks and Earl Klugh. Who did Borders&#8217; stocking? The Weather Channel? My dad?</p>
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You could get &#8220;snowed under&#8221; in <a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged SNOW PATROL" href="http://idolator.com/tag/snow-patrol/">Snow Patrol</a> CDs (haw haw), probably because this CD+DVD combo was priced at $21.99 originally.</p>
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Nothing against Atmosphere, but there was absolutely no reason for Borders to have ordered eight copies of this in our current music-selling climate. You can always order more. You can&#8217;t order less.</p>
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I&#8217;d like to think that <a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged SAUL WILLIAMS" href="http://idolator.com/tag/saul-williams/">Saul Williams</a> was here <em>en masse</em> because everybody had already downloaded it, but I&#8217;m not so sure of that. Borders&#8217; selection was overall more interesting than <a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged CIRCUIT CITY" href="http://idolator.com/tag/circuit-city/">Circuit City</a>&#8216;s, if a little more mystifying.</p>
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<a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged INGRID MICHAELSON" href="http://idolator.com/tag/ingrid-michaelson/">Ingrid Michaelson</a> was well-represented. &#8220;As heard on <em>Grey&#8217;s Anatomy</em>&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean what it used to, but this thing was priced to sell and didn&#8217;t. It looks like a 90s cut-out bin record, like it should be laying next to Ednaswap and Echobelly.</p>
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I have this and have never listened to it. What am I afraid of? Oh, yeah&#8230;it sounding like the artwork.</p>
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Delta Spirit was out in force. I don&#8217;t have any good puns for this.</p>
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Wow! I wonder why this never sold? As a music consumer, I can think of no more inspiring words in the year 2009 than &#8220;<a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged GOO GOO DOLLS" href="http://idolator.com/tag/goo-goo-dolls/">Goo Goo Dolls</a>, Vol. 2.&#8221;</p>
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The theme song is on this. &#8216;Nuff said.</p>
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There was lots of <a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged JOHN LEGEND" href="http://idolator.com/tag/john-legend/">John Legend</a> on display; maybe people heard him sing at the Academy Awards.</p>
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Now this is just a shame. Who doesn&#8217;t love &#8220;Lido Shuffle&#8221;?</p>
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<a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged PLAIN WHITE T'S" href="http://idolator.com/tag/plain-white-t.s/">Plain White T&#8217;s</a>: One of those bands that seems more popular in theory.</p>
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I know Switchfoot and <a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged NICKEL CREEK" href="http://idolator.com/tag/nickel-creek/">Nickel Creek</a> are popular, but seven copies of the collaboration between members of those bands is probably overestimating demand just a bit.</p>
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Turn away, Maura! Turn away!</p>
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These Melissa Etheridges were like this when I got there.</p>
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No love for <em>My Love</em> by Celine Dion.</p>
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This Atreyu package would be a good deal if I liked them at all.</p>
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Some around these parts will feel no small amount of schadenfreude at this picture.</p>
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These things were everywhere, a symbol bit of music industry detritus.</p>
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Just plain odd. Somebody must have a really bad back. It shows you how much they cared about the aesthetics of the music section.</p>
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<a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged HOWIE DAY" href="http://idolator.com/tag/howie-day/">Howie Day</a>: the loneliest featured CD ever.</p>
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Who thought this was a good idea?</p>
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This is my version of hell.</p>
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Oh, no, wait. This is.</p>
<p>Overall, in most cases, it&#8217;s not hard to see why what&#8217;s not selling is not selling. A lot of times it what the pricing, but a lot of it had to do with target markets. This is a Borders in Athens we&#8217;re talking about&mdash;the chamber of commerce practically hands you cardigans, ironic mustaches, and plastic-framed glasses when you move here, so it&#8217;s no wonder Dream Theater DVDs aren&#8217;t moving out the door.</p>
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