VH1's list and charticle programming sorta resists any possible bitching and moaning, doesn't it? It's such a harmless, long-established shtick that hating on its kitschiness-at-all-costs worldview just makes you look like the kind of crank who gets worked up when a boy band member supposedly "devalues" rock history by namedropping a beloved indie act. But when reading lists like their new 100 Greatest Songs Of The '90s, which you can now vote on for the TV special to be broadcast late in the year, it's hard not to walk away with the feeling that VH1's programmers are almost trying to get a rise out of you if you're someone who self-identifies as a "music fan." And it almost always works:
(Unfortunately VH1's stupid voting system means I can't cut and paste the list in full, so go check it out and then come back and I will continue my rant.)
Okay? Anyway, I mean, "From a time when Hammer and Hootie reigned!" It's factually true, but do we really need to celebrate it? Enjoying pop, for seemingly a lot of people, has gotten tangled up with enjoying pap. Are there great songs on VH1's list? Songs that were on the charts and on the video channels and the radio and lodged in in the craw of popular culture while still being, you know, songs you legitimately want to listen to a decade later? With Mary J.'s "Real Love" or Janet Jackson's "That's The Way Love Goes" on there? No doubt. Right next to "The Macarena" and Kris Kross. And what on Earth is Wu-Tang's "Protect Ya Neck" doing in there, beamed in from galaxy far, far away from the forced, chipper high-school-reunion-style reminiscing that makes up the bulk of the list?
It's inclusions like that where you wonder just what kind of cheeky chicanery VH1 is up to. If nothing else, the channel keeps you guessing, which is probably why Entertainment Weekly seems upset, with nearly a straight face, that there's nothing from Morphine or Pavement or Juliana Hatfield on this list. You'd almost wonder if they just haven't been paying attention if "Cut Your Hair" showing up between Shawn Mullins and Primitive Radio Gods wasn't an honest possibility. You want to get irritable over the whole thing, but people who (rightly) take music as more than warm, nostalgic amniotic fluid to float around in while idylly remembering dumb/offensive trash that time has apparently transubstantiated into charming silliness are getting played (and playing themselves) if they take these lists as more than popcorn entertainment designed to be pointlessly argued over. Even if that means the kitsch/camp terrorists have claimed another decade as their own.
Anyway, the real problem is that so many of those songs are friggin' terrible. Edwin McCain? For chrissakes.
The Best Songs Of The 90s [Entertainment Weekly]
The 100 Greatest Songs Of The 90s [VH1]









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Excellent.
But I am impressed that they selected "Doll Parts" as Hole's entry on the list instead of, say, "Miss World" or "Malibu". And have we ever definitively decided whether Kurt Cobain ghost-wrote Live Through This?
"I want to be the girl with the most cake"...
WHERE THE FUCK IS SEVEN MARY THREE?!
Ripoff. Total ripoff.
For several of these choices, they got the right artists but the wrong songs...
Nine Inch Nails should be "Hurt" instead of "Closer."
Madonna should be anything from Ray of Light (my pick would be "Frozen") instead of "Vogue."
Public Enemy should be "Welcome to the Terrordome" definitely not "911 Is a Joke."
All kidding aside, that VH-1 system is stupid.
Do they already have segments for each song pre-taped? That way, they'd be able to slap the show together in an hour or two...
Shawn Mullins
I had honestly forgotten his existence. Was he ever alive?
Are you really surprised by Edwin McCain? If VH1 had been the mind-blowingly brilliant middle age whitey schmarm-shilling mastermind back then that it is today, Edwin would have been a "You Oughta Know" poster boy.
Shawn Mullins headlined a book festival in Atlanta last weekend. Not sure why a one-hit wonder is performing at a book festival, but whatever.
Dear EW- The Fugees are one there. See- "Killing Me Softly."
Anyway, it would be really boring to get a bunch of music critics together to bitch about which songs were, objectively, the best songs recorded in the 90's.
That said, this list kinda blows. Also- can't we just assume that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is gonna make it, instead of making people waste votes on it?
I'm having trouble coming up with a 10-best songs on the list...
Y'know, it was semi-respectable when they first started doing it. Their original 100 Greatest lists only really polled critics and musicians. Sure, the lists weren't perfect, but at least they avoided the shame of having "Sex and Candy" pop up.
Any list that includes "No Diggity" is alright by me.
This is nothing. According to the "Class of '88 Trivia" section of my High School's 20th anniversary reunion website, George Michael's Faith beat out GnR's Appetite for Destruction for album of the year in '88.
How many songs are on that nominations list, anyway? I tried to count and gave up but it looked like maybe 200? I have to at least give VH1 credit for sticking to their guns and mostly listing the same songs they played constantly during the 90's, as opposed to the dishonesty of putting huge chunks of their old playlists on those "awesomely bad" specials. One thing EW is right about: it's downright shocking that "Bittersweet Symphony" isn't on there, although I'm not going to shed a tear over that.
@DHMBIB: How is that surprising? "Doll Parts" was Hole's breakthrough hit and way bigger than "Miss World" (I can't even remember what "Malibu" sounds like, but I'll give you that one since apparently it charted higher on modern rock radio).
@Clevertrousers: Faith is an awesome record. I can do the whole rap from "Hard Day" at the drop of a hat.
@tigerpop: I like the way you work it. I want to bag it up.
@Ned Raggett: Shawn Mullins went to my high school. I'm here to tell you, he certain made the ladies feel alive.
In their naughty bits.
In a chaste way.
Cuz he was so dreamy.
Perfect example of how the music industry kicks itself in the ass by blowing a perfect opportunity to resurrect careers in need of a boost. Most glaring omissions: Black Crowes, Soul Asylum, Toad the Wet Sprocket, Dave Matthews Band, Matthew Sweet, Gin Blossoms, The Verve, Ben Folds Five. And God Forbid they include Neil Young or Tom Petty - can't have anybody who was older than 40 on this list, for chrissakes, unless it's that f&*%$^g Macarena guy.
The only way you could counter this pop-smacked list of garbage would be to do a "100 Greatest from 120 Minutes". Come to think of it, why the hell aren't they doing that instead anyway?
VH-1 - "Nostalgia For Clueless Idiots"
It really looks like they just pulled from the track listing of Whatever: The 90s Pop and Culture Box Set to come up with that list. It could represent the best of the 90s if all you did was watch MTV and listen to the local modern rock station.
EW also pointed out that there was only one track per band. That bugs me more than some of the song selections.
@Lucas Jensen: Yeah, but every hesher on the planet can recite the words to "Sweet Child O' Mine".
Now I remember why I started hating music in the '90s... Marcy fucking Playground? Ugh!
"Smooth" came out in '99? Damn, I'm getting old.
And that EW commenter was right. Mariah's "Fantasy" was a far better choice, but I guess "Vision of Love" is the obvious one.
Spice Girls! Hell yeahs.
Amy Grant! And the Wallflowers! And DMB! Lililth Fair! My crazy obession with Ben Affleck! MxPx too!
Serious, I should drive back to my parents house this weekend and get those CD's out of my closet. They deserve another spin. Maybe I'll put some safety pins in my JNCO's and dance around in Van's. Go shopping at Abercrombie.
The 90's were kick ass.
I love hating things as much as the next person, though not nearly as much as Aquemini. That said, VH1 isn't exactly worth the hate.
We need a pithy "sticks and stones" type rhyme for music fans and best of lists. Like: "Revolver and Thriller are pretty good albums, but best-of lists don't really concern me."
Also, I really miss New Jack Swing.
There were 100 songs released in the '90s? I don't seem to remember this.
Could they have picked a worse Liz Phair song? Horrible list, but then again, these lists are more geared towards someones mom or aunt....
I resent this article's Hammer-hating.
I don't know what everyone is complaining about.
They listed 'Creep' which everyone knows is Radiohead's best song in the 90's.
God, fucking NO!
I guess it had to happen eventually, though.
@Fried Bologna Is Back!: Ewww! I just got what "bag it up" means!!!
1. Wonderwall
2. Lovefool
3-100. Do not want
@Charlie Kerfelds Jetsons Tee:
Where the fuck is Seven Mary Three? Playing two shows a night at the Holiday Inn by the airport, I think.
That list is terribly US-centered.
Why hasn't anyone mentioned the absence of the Foo Fighters!?!?! They rocked then and they STILL rock!
Ridiculous.
WTF no Linkin Park no "Smooth Criminal" this list was sad imo there was alot missing and alot that never should have been on the list. I mean Nirvana is good but #1 i donno
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