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That's priceless - especially the Ultragrrl bit. This whole piece reminds me of one that I wrote a few years ago - which was also considered witty and insightful at the time.

The next Nirvana already happened. I won't tell you what it was, but its initials were P.2.P.

Please, MTV, please tell us what to like and what to listen to, we're lost without your direction.

And what, no Good Charlotte interview about this? WTF?

P!ATD, FOB, and MCB, quit circle jerking each other and listen up. There will be another Nirvana type band someday, in fact there will probably be more than one. It's the nature of the industry. It won't be you.

I remember being really offended when I read that post by Ultragrrrrrrrrrl back then, until I remembered she sucked The Killers' collective cock.

hey you never know, one well-timed suicide and fall out boy could be on their way....

Let's just be glad Ultragrrrl had the self-restraint not to add the Oohlas or fucking Monty Are I to the conversation.

All these bands need a new tshirt.

After reading the MTV article, I never would have thought the Disturbed dude would have the most reasonable answer.

The question itself is pretty ridiculous, so Draiman's talking briefly about the setting in which he discovered the album and then reflecting a little bit about the "if" -- and no more than a little bit -- is the best answer.

I have a feeling the people in question were asked an additional question alongside "Will There Be Another Nirvana" and that is "Who do you think would qualify as the next Nirvana today?", which is even more ridiculous.

"Will There Be Another Nirvana?" is a 'Yes' Or 'No' And Here's Why I Think So question, not a Who Will Be question. So, I blame MTV for misrepresenting the original premise in the article, and hence this Idolator entry following along with it.

You guys missed the real gem in Ultragrrrl's commentary: "My Chemical Romance...did it in a very uncalculated way."
This about a band with its own label-managed line of clothing...Gimme a break. I bet they've got focus groups to figure out how much eyeliner Gerard should wear in the next video.

So following Wentz's logic, that means there's a shadow of a chance that Fall Out Boy will commit suicide with a shotgun someday? They should record that for posterity. It will be the one interesting thing they've done (though, true to their nature, also derivative).

Ultragrrrl also mentioned they had an army of fans which 1) don't most bands have an "army of fans" and 2) the Kiss army would crush their army. I think Draiman's answer was good but I think Brent Hinds hit it on the head.

The "next Nirvana" could be closer than we think. Nirvana rose from the ashes of shitty metals bands who wore too much eyeliner.

The next one will rise from the ashes of shitty faux-metal/emo/pop-punk bands who wear too much eyeliner.

So in a way, P!ATD/MCR/FOB are all contributing to the cause...

Although I don't know where exactly "posting pictures of your bass players penis online" fits into the equation.

One time I was shopping at Nordstrom and I came across a t-shirt that had the phrase "Hang the Rich" scrawled across the top. Below it were pictures of a noose and an embroidered skull. It cost $65.00. It kind of made me have a little brain attack and I almost fell into a rack of Lacoste shirts. This time I was smart enough to pull up a chair when I saw the words "Pete Wentz."

Ryan from Panic! at the Disco proves he is one sharp tack - saying that there won't be another band like Nirvana - then saying in the next breath that his friend's band is that next best thing. Good job buddy!

It's funny. Nirvana was a dynamic and (relative to the mainstream, at least) groundbreaking band who made their mark on rock music with 4 chords and a lot of aggression. Fall Out Boy has taken the same 4 chords, robbed them of their aggression, emotion and relevence, added in a ton of studio magic (and stupdio musicians *cough cough Petey Wentz doesnt play bass on the albums cough cough*) and turned it into carbon copy schlock completely devoid of anything lasting or important.

I bet they have banged a lot of 14 year olds, though.

There won't be another Nirvana, but Rob Thomas will sing lead on a star-studded tribute album. First song is going to be a completely unironic version of "Radio-Friendly Unit Shifter" with Fall Out Boy.

Angry as I am at Ryan Ross's vainglorious comment, perhaps he is saying it to piss people off, which I have to admit is pretty punk rock. Too bad punk is dead.

The answer is yes there will be another Nirvana because too many shitty manufactured bands like these are more interested in how their music will sell to the masses as opposed to how the music will be enjoyed and judged. Sad these kids can only name check bands that are their friends or contemporaries. But considering a quote like, "I listened to the Pet Shop Boys and thought that Nirvana was, like, devil music." explains a lot.

I can't quite pinpoint why this article makes me so unbelievably angry but I know it HAS to have something to do with MTV assfucking my intelligence by thinking I'll value the opinion of a guy that takes boner pictures. Oh, and could they use this as a launching pad to promote their friends bands (that sound exactly like their bands) any more?

"There will never be another Nirvana."

- The original Nirvana, ca. 1966

To me, MTV is actaully the single biggest reason why there will never be another Nirvana. When Nevermind came out, the channel was still playing videos reguarly. If they really got behind something, people knew about it. This provided a mechanism for an underground phenomenon to become a mainstream phenomenon very quickly. Now, music listening is so fragmented and word of mouth based. Without some sort of national, mainstream base for consensus, I don't think you could see a band make an impact on that kind of scale again. Whether that's a good thing or a bad one is probably the more interesting question.

see, one thing that i remember about nirvana breaking all huge when they did was they were completely different than anything that was happening in mainstream music at the time. it was nothing but hair bands, more or less. and kids were sick of it.

now we're getting close, i guess- there's a lot of kiddy-punk and the like, a lot of 80's revival type stuff, and it all seems to be the same old same old. but a few years ago, it was rap-metal everywhere, and we got no new nirvana from that. i suppose i don't see much difference between kiddie-punk and rap-metal. so, i guess the conditions might be right for something new for the kids, BUT...

in the years since nirvana broke, the internet got invented! back in 1990 or 1991, you had the radio and mtv, and that was pretty much it. (magazines, i guess- i used to read about bands in 'thrasher' magazine, and seek them out.)there was only a few pipes for music and the like to flow out of. with the advent of the internet where bands can get signed from having myspace exposure alone, i don't see much in the way of a band breaking huge like nirvana did. also, there are still crappy bands that still sound almost note-for-note like nirvana, i.e., seether.

i'm guessing no, there will never be a band with a breakthrough album so catchy that it spawns an entire 'revolution' of sorts with what comes down the mainstream pike.

Pete Wentz has some serious balls, comparing FOB to Nirvana and throwing around the word "globalization." Just because you make the same music as bands from 20 years ago doesn't mean that you're building on an established scene. Nirvana was inspired. FOB's just uncreative.

Wasn't Nirvana the last band that (purely by what the music press became after them) by default, ended the 'next (x popular band thing?)'

Its like when Bright Eyes was supposed to be the next Bob Dylan, that worked out really well for him.

The bigger question is "do we NEED another Nirvana?"

The best thing that came from Nirvana was Foo Fighters.

Nirvana weren't the next Beatles, or the next Clash -- hell, they weren't even the next Replacements.

Their music was great, but not legendary or classic. Their style was as put together as Ashlee Simpson's. They just gave their stylists different directions.

The real answer: Whatever band has a member (preferably a lead singer and/or songwriter) that offs himself will be the next Nirvana.