Idolator

I would imagine you have to burn the songs to CD and rip them back as an mp3 to get rid of the silly DRM- just like with an Ipod.

These ridiculous proprietary formats are why I have not yet paid for music online. If you want me to buy it, sell me a plain old mp3/flac, just like the one I'd get if I bought the CD and ripped it. Anything else is an insult to the intelligence of the consumer.

drjimmy - I think you're half right. If you can convert the Zune Marketplace (that's a fucking mouthful) song into mp3, you can transfer it to another Zune.

But the 3 day/3 play DRM still applies, whether the song came from a CD, you recorded it yourself or it came from the Zune store.

how long do you think it'll be before every Zune in the world becomes the virus infested fodder like it's big proud poppa PC parents?

yes that was a lot of "P" words.

but still, it's virtually a trojan horse for hackers.

and there has to be a reason Steve Jobs is still smiling --
something is being planned.

in idolator's review of the zune, didn't they mention that non-drm mp3's can be transfered via wifi and kept forever? is there a definitive answer on this?

also, with the zune will you be able to go on a friend's computer and pull all non-drm tracks to your player without any problems?

those are deal-breakers.

So I guess Zune users who also happen to be Stones fans can't get no satisfaction, huh?

Har.

unfortunately, we didn't get to review the zune. but i believe that all music files, no matter what their original format, will be wrapped by the three-day-or-three-play restrictions.

you know, i actually pay for downloads from emusic. i have been a subscriber for years. straight up mp3s, no b.s. and once you download a song or album, it's in your account permanently. for example, last week, after the 'the evens' post, i bought the album from emusic, and downloaded it on both my home and work computers. can't beat that! they have a huge library, and they have lots of rare and out of print stuff too.
and lots of stoner rock! i'm not trying to shill for them, but i really like the service.

Weezy - From everything I'm reading, the 3 day/3 play limit applies to all wifi-shared songs, regardless of origin. Now, I was wrong when I wrote "3 day/3 play DRM still applies", since Zune isn't actually putting any DRM on the file.

You can, however, stick your Zune onto your friend's computer and enjoy limitless pirated music.

good god i somehow mixed you guys up with gothamist, very sorry about that.

nooooooooo!

Isn't the significance of this story that its the first time Jagger ever gave a crap about fans and consumers?(or appeared to?) Microsoft just needs to buy another Stones song for their ads...