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Oh also, I forgot to say that RepentTokyo is being a feminine hygiene product.</p> <p>blobby</p>]]></description>
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Although I enjoyed this post for the same reason that some others have mentioned (i.e. providing a small-scale perspective to what has been often written up as a monolithic "TREND"), I agree that BitTerrorist definitely should have been pressed more on the morality of illegal downloading, especially since he/she/it seemed to have such a sense of entitlement about getting free music illegally. </p>
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And I think the central point is that it is indeed stealing.  As someone who has illegally downloaded hundreds of albums (though not off p2p sites or torrents), I fully recognize that my acts are criminal, and in fact are not really any different than shoplifting.  The only reason I continue to do so is that the temptation for me is too great not to; though, in my defense, I now use the site lala.com to get a lot of music cheaply and legally, and I have never downloaded a band's entire catalog (if you like a band so damn much,  support them instead of just exploiting their labor).  Nonetheless, just because you don't like a law doesn't mean you don't have to obey it, and since no one has been able to explain to me why the laws against downloading are somehow immoral or harmful, I will continue to recognize the illegality of filesharing (referring, of course, to that which has not been authorized by the band or label).  At the same time, I realize as long as I continue to illegally download music for free, I am being somewhat hypocritical.  However, my unwillingness to obey the law does not mean that I think the law is immoral, but merely that I am a sucker for free music and don't bother to justify my illegal habits. What is truly hypocritical is the bullshit rationalization that supporting a band through buying merch and attending concerts makes up for stealing their music-- it doesn't, so stop pretending.</p>
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Glad I got that off my chest!</p> <p>blobby</p>]]></description>
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I download flies. </p>
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Beat that , suckers.</p> <p>BlimpyMcFlah</p>]]></description>
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		    <pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:32:19 EDT</pubDate>
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This post is some weak sauce for (most of) the reasons mentioned above.</p>
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An actual interview with someone who founded or helps run a high-traffic, music-sharing torrent community would be far more interesting. Maybe those crazy kids over at Dime A Dozen, or something, will talk to you, if the Powers That Be at Oink don't want to?</p> <p><a href="http://sparkletone.net">sparkletone</a></p>]]></description>
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"It's like you interviewed yourself, with all of your prejudices kept intact."</p>
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very interesting point, Mozfather</p> <p><a href="http://www.repenttokyo.com">RepentTokyo</a></p>]]></description>
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Yeah, this guy's attitude creeps me out.  And I really feel like Viv let Bitterrorist off the hook on the guilt issue.  Unfortunately, I agree a bit with the Mozfather...if NOBODY is making money then I worry that the high dollar good stuff like the Soft Bulletin doesn't get made.  As an artist, I would give my record to pretty much anybody who really wanted it and couldn't afford it.  But I can't shake the feeling that heavy-duty bittorrent folks don't consider what I do a job.  It is, and it's a crap one sometimes.  I'm kind of flattered when someone downloads my stuff, but I almost wish that they'd check with me, you know?</p> <p><a href="http://www.thecropper.com">Lucas Jensen</a></p>]]></description>
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		    <pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:26:29 EDT</pubDate>
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It could have been a better "get" but I still enjoyed it.  Even though a lot of us have probably bitorrented things, it's interesting to see the particulars of it hashed out.  But I do have to say:</p>
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Da_BitTerrorist: I don't really know. Asking why you don't feel guilty about something isn't really a question you know how to answer. </p>
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Is the stupidest moral excuse I've ever heard.  </p> <p>gregcoff</p>]]></description>
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Would you guys please stop mentioning SLSK. Just shut up and smile.</p> <p><a href="http://silverfuture.blogspot.com">Silverfuture</a></p>]]></description>
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Uhm, RepentTokyo went over the top, but this is a pretty weak post. Rather than interview someone, say, from the Pirate Bay, or Oink itself, you interview someone who uses these services. And you all seem to be in the dark about Soulseek, which offers a much better service for downloading albums. It's like you interviewed yourself, with all of your prejudices kept intact.</p>
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As for the only interesting fact in the interview - Bitterrorist's guilt/the legality of the issue - WTF? Just because he/she FEELs that it's not wrong doesn't mean it isn't. Shouldn't our Idolator be pressing the person more on this issue? As music consumers, we claim to love music, but we are helping destroy the very industry we love. Is this a good/bad thing? Why? This is a question that so many people have such a knee-jerk reaction to, and I would have liked to have seen a more in-depth analysis.</p> <p><a href="http://pageblank.blogspot.com">The Mozfather</a></p>]]></description>
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Dude, you are missing point.  I learned something from this interview that I didn't know before and it was an interesting insight into Oink.</p>
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I don't need an interview with an iPod user, because we all know about that already.  </p> <p><a href="http://www.merryswankster.com">Swankster</a></p>]]></description>
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@<a href="#c1260981">RepentTokyo</a>: </p>
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I sense jealousy that you weren't the downloader interviewed for the piece. </p>
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Seriously, I get what you're getting at, that it's small-scale stuff. But it was still an interesting read. What gets lost in all of wide-lens stories about "The Man" (RIAA, the majors) taking our music away, is the individual downloader perspective. We've gone through this massive perceptual shift in the past 7-8 years, whereby music is no longer a good to be purchased, but data that is grabbed out of the ether and discarded just as easily. Do you think dude really listened to all 1500 of those cds? Music is disposable now. What I'm becoming more and more interested in these days is the motivations of those who are behind the transformation of music into tapwater.   </p>
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So, dude, I must say you are a douche.</p> <p>MC</p>]]></description>
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		    <pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:19:53 EDT</pubDate>
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i think you guys are missing the point - you all just read an interview with someone who DOWNLOADS FILES!  doesn't that just blow your mind?</p>
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maybe tomorrow idolator can post an interview with that guy who sits beside you on the bus listening to his IPOD!</p> <p><a href="http://www.repenttokyo.com">RepentTokyo</a></p>]]></description>
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plus, didn't Idolator get kicked off of Oink for talking about it? why would they talk them up if they got banned? </p>
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sure, this wasn't my cup of tea. but it's music related and it's fair game. now put some girl talk up so everyone can REALLY start hatin on technology.</p> <p>sarahrose</p>]]></description>
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		    <pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:49:37 EDT</pubDate>
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@<a href="#c1260095">RepentTokyo</a>: I believe the broom up your ass may be chafing a bit.  You may want to rethink this strategy.</p> <p>King of Pants</p>]]></description>
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@<a href="#c1260095">RepentTokyo</a>: I think Idolator only mentioned Oink last <i>week</i>, and I'm pretty sure there wasn't any shilling involved.</p>
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Besides, it's invite only.  How can someone shill for something that you need to find an Oink user to join?</p> <p>rad_matter</p>]]></description>
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@<a href="#c1260095">RepentTokyo</a>: </p>
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You on the rag or something? Dude chill. </p> <p>MC</p>]]></description>
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If OiNK is a sponsor of Idolator, they've got some pretty funny ways of showing support! Also, I think OiNK users could only really be considered suckers if they had to pay to get in. </p> <p>Kate Richardson</p>]]></description>
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I read Idolator daily, and usually enjoy the AnonIMous interviews, but what on earth were you thinking when you decided today to post an "interview" with someone who USES BIT TORRENT??  Are you that hard up for content that you have taken to posting weak "interviews" with SOFTWARE USERS?  How exactly does someone who knows how to use one of hundreds of peer to peer softwares warrant any kind of attention?  This is possibly the weakest article I have ever seen on your site, and it really makes me want to give up on you altogether.  What's next?  People who stream live video?  That would be a real nail-biter.  Or maybe you could interview those people who make their own anime music videos.  I bet that would please your readership.</p>
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To add insult to injury, you call this person a "big time file sharer" because they have been using the software for 3 years and have downloaded 1500 albums?  That is beyond pathetic.  Why not interview the people who are actually behind these peer to peer applications, or someone who really IS a "big time file sharer" and moves terabytes of data per month?  Is Oink a sponsor?  Is that why you are constantly flogging their service?</p>
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Personally, I find it bizarre that there are suckers out there who are still falling into the trap of ratio-based bit torrent sites when there are plenty of non-ratio filesharing programs that offer as much musical content.  The user mentions that on Oink they could download 50 albums a month "easily".  On a service like Soulseek you could do 50 albums a DAY.  Easily.  And without any ratio garbage or membership b.s.</p>
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But please, continue to shill for Oink and provide us with dazzling journalistic feats of wonder like this article, and see how long readers like me stick around.</p> <p><a href="http://www.repenttokyo.com">RepentTokyo</a></p>]]></description>
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;_; now i want to oink!</p> <p><a href="http://www.deceptionproject.com">Tenno</a></p>]]></description>
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