<![CDATA[Rick Rubin Wants To Get In On This Web 2.0 Thing - Idolator Comments]]> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/idolator.com.png <![CDATA[Rick Rubin Wants To Get In On This Web 2.0 Thing - Idolator Comments]]> http://idolator.com Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:00:47 EDT Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:00:47 EDT http://idolator.com/tunes/gurus/rick-rubin-wants-to-get-in-on-this-web-20-thing-296094.php <![CDATA[Rick Rubin Wants To Get In On This Web 2.0 Thing]]> http://idolator.com/tunes/gurus/rick-rubin-wants-to-get-in-on-this-web-20-thing-296094.php#c2311215 rubin comes off great in that piece; its his Epic partner barnett who represents every reason the industry is all but dead. majors like epic are holding on to 20th century strategies . no way will the majors all get along & agree on subscription format. I still buy cds by my favourite old & new acts but im the only 1 I know . there needs to be a subscription service offering every song ever off vinyl, CD & bootlegs . thats worth $5-20 a month . rubin endorses that; barnett says NO . labels rip off bands right & left & the idea that labels want to share in merchandise & concert grosses shows they are still greedy in 2007 as they breath their last gasps

the earl grey

]]> 33:296094:c2311215 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:00:47 EDT <![CDATA[Rick Rubin Wants To Get In On This Web 2.0 Thing]]> http://idolator.com/tunes/gurus/rick-rubin-wants-to-get-in-on-this-web-20-thing-296094.php#c2310429 A great recap from Idolator.
Anybody else get the Rick Rubin - Orson Welles vibe? Like, "Citizen Kane" to voice of a Transformer?
Or, if Natalie Dixiechick and the author have us believe there is an apotheosis coming. Rubin wouldn't have to bother saving the industry, considering his Buddha Nature.
Besides, this whole Word-Of-Mouth(tm) marketing strategy is patently deceitful. It stinks of Zune-sponsored frat parties, and the "Anti-Truther" trolls squirling around the web. Mind control, anyone?

OingoBobo

]]> 33:296094:c2310429 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:33:28 EDT <![CDATA[Rick Rubin Wants To Get In On This Web 2.0 Thing]]> http://idolator.com/tunes/gurus/rick-rubin-wants-to-get-in-on-this-web-20-thing-296094.php#c2306333 Nothing like an aging huckster to try and squeeze every last dollar out of a real, working artist! But lest I forget, where would This Band or That Band be without a guru to guide them along into the A&R slaughterhouse? Starry-eyed groups who seek the approval of someone like Rubin probably deserve to be buried alive with their own ego and cash advances, and really shouldn't be making music in the first place, anyway.

In other words, see you at the swap meet in 2 years, Columbia!

CloudCarrier

]]> 33:296094:c2306333 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:56:16 EDT <![CDATA[Rick Rubin Wants To Get In On This Web 2.0 Thing]]> http://idolator.com/tunes/gurus/rick-rubin-wants-to-get-in-on-this-web-20-thing-296094.php#c2306296 RICK RUBIN IS THE MOST AMAZING, UNDERGROUND PRODUCER WORKING IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW. ALL MY COOL FRIENDS ARE LISTENING TO HIS STUFF, IT'S SO HOT RIGHT NOW ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES AND IN EXCLUSIVE UNDERGROUND CLUBS LOCATED IN PLACES LIKE BROOKLYN. YOU GUYS ARE SO RIGHT TO POST ABOUT RICK, AND AHEAD OF THE CURVE AS USUAL. OK, LATER EVERYBODY, I HAVE TO GO DOWNLOAD SOME TRACKS OFF ITUNES TO PLAY ON MY IPHONE!

Audif Jackson Winters III

]]> 33:296094:c2306296 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:54:02 EDT <![CDATA[Rick Rubin Wants To Get In On This Web 2.0 Thing]]> http://idolator.com/tunes/gurus/rick-rubin-wants-to-get-in-on-this-web-20-thing-296094.php#c2305283 Of course, after Spank Rock, his name is never just "Rick Rubin" in my head, it's "Rick Rubin Rick Rubin Rick Rubin Rick Rubin..."

The Mozfather

]]> 33:296094:c2305283 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:42:28 EDT <![CDATA[Rick Rubin Wants To Get In On This Web 2.0 Thing]]> http://idolator.com/tunes/gurus/rick-rubin-wants-to-get-in-on-this-web-20-thing-296094.php#c2304724 who can forget the wonderful PaloAlto?

strapsy

]]> 33:296094:c2304724 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:00:34 EDT <![CDATA[Rick Rubin Wants To Get In On This Web 2.0 Thing]]> http://idolator.com/tunes/gurus/rick-rubin-wants-to-get-in-on-this-web-20-thing-296094.php#c2304696 Good writeup. The piece mostly made me sad for Rubin, because even as a longtime industry tool his core instincts (old model=dead) are right, and his heart, to some extent, is in the right place. But you're right that he hasn't been out of his hermetically sealed soundroom in years if he thinks label-sanctioned buzz or the subscription model (called "the future" in, like, 2001) are the Way Forward.

Basically, I trust Rick to be a Mo Ostin-like judge of talent and a glorified über-A&R man. I don't trust him to be the post-Steve Jobs.

Chris Molanphy

]]> 33:296094:c2304696 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:58:31 EDT <![CDATA[Rick Rubin Wants To Get In On This Web 2.0 Thing]]> http://idolator.com/tunes/gurus/rick-rubin-wants-to-get-in-on-this-web-20-thing-296094.php#c2304600 Someone nees to compile a "classic to crap" ratio for all the production Rick has done over the years to see where his median lies. For every Run-DMC he has, the man probably has a dozen paloalto's laying around.

TheMojoPin

]]> 33:296094:c2304600 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:51:34 EDT <![CDATA[Rick Rubin Wants To Get In On This Web 2.0 Thing]]> http://idolator.com/tunes/gurus/rick-rubin-wants-to-get-in-on-this-web-20-thing-296094.php#c2304285 Maura, another very well-written piece by you about the music industry. I enjoy your daily humor and quips, but these more serious-minded pieces that appear occasionally are equally as good, if not better. You should take over from whiny old Lefsetz and start the Maura Memorandum.

Vince Neilstein

]]> 33:296094:c2304285 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:26:39 EDT <![CDATA[Rick Rubin Wants To Get In On This Web 2.0 Thing]]> http://idolator.com/tunes/gurus/rick-rubin-wants-to-get-in-on-this-web-20-thing-296094.php#c2304135 "...and a pie-in-the-sky plan to have all the majors band together in their time of woe, Care-Bears-Stare style."

Thank you, Maura. This is why I visit Idolator.

Rilo-Andy

]]> 33:296094:c2304135 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:15:41 EDT <![CDATA[Rick Rubin Wants To Get In On This Web 2.0 Thing]]> http://idolator.com/tunes/gurus/rick-rubin-wants-to-get-in-on-this-web-20-thing-296094.php#c2303971 All good, cogent points - the invocation of the subscription model is always a dead giveaway of an outmoded idea.

Can we also make fun of Lynn Hirschberg for calling the active-since-1999 Gossip "a new band" in the very first graf?

mike a

]]> 33:296094:c2303971 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:02:20 EDT <![CDATA[Rick Rubin Wants To Get In On This Web 2.0 Thing]]> http://idolator.com/tunes/gurus/rick-rubin-wants-to-get-in-on-this-web-20-thing-296094.php#c2303943 But the best part was when Steve Barnett compared Rubin to Marshall Faulk...!


Also, love Rubin's Jedi Mind Trick mentality: "I felt like I could be a force for good. In the past, I've tried to protect artists from the label, and now my job would also be to protect the label from itself."


Did anyone count how many times paradigm shifts or the like were given empty lip service? OMG, sad.

the rich girls are weeping

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