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Idolator At CMJ, Day Five: Does Anyone Really Give A Crap At This Point?

palndrom23 — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:31:51 EDT

lighten up, STATLER_HOAS. everyone knows that heckling bands is funny and makes for goodtimes.

also, it would be nice if anything related to CMJ was fun, especially, say, attending the shows.

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PandaPornMcAwesome — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:55:11 EDT

I could not possibly be more over CMJ. I'd rather see any of those bands in a normal setting at a normal show, rather than some long boring "showcase" brimming over with assholes wearing those stupid fucking badges.

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NoNewYork — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:32:46 EDT

umm... im pretty sure dan deacon wouldnt be much bothered by heckling.
this is pop music kid, this isn't fucking opera.

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dola — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:19:22 EDT

If they're still under 30 and have been playing shows and releasing albums for well over a decade, then it's probably going to be an entertaining show chock full of great songs and that chemistry you were missing. Using that rule of thumb people as varied as Jay Reatard and Kevin Devine did not disappoint.

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Dickdogfood — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:03:25 EDT

@Statler_HoaS: I've never booed or heckled a performer while they were onstage in my life. (I have heckled audience members, and before she became famous/infamous, booed Cat Power as she left a stage.) But as long as it doesn't shade off into outright harrassment (and that's obviously a tough call much of the time), and is largely done in the gaps between music, I think it's fine. Sometimes a virtue, even. Since a huge hunk of indie music isn't remotely interested in making people dance -- and with the schmuzzier end of noise/ambient, think or feel much of anything -- what the fuck kinda role is left for an audience other than a hivemind beaming back passive "respectfulness" onto the performers? Is a rock concert supposed to function exactly like a cello recital, only smellier? Heckling levels the playing field a little. Yeah, concerts are actually in fact about the audience too!

Also: once you start punching hecklers (or anybody), then you have become waaaaaay more of a concert-ruiner than just about any stupid heckler could be.

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Adam Bernard — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:02:40 EDT

I went to one CMJ event this year, begrudgingly, because I already knew I liked one of the bands on the bill. My main issue with CMJ is how spread out it is, both time-wise and space-wise. That being said, Warped Tour always seems to be run really well, so why can't CMJ take a cue from them, maybe with one day for the panels and another day where they just rent out a parking lot, set up a dozen stages and have everyone perform. A lot more people will see a lot more bands and there won't be that filthy "dirty locker room / smelly white guy" stench that seems to permeate current CMJ venues.

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Jack Szwergold — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:58:35 EDT

Wasn't the last time the term "College Music" was relevant was-like-in 1990? When people began to realize that kids at college radio stations were discovering acts/music?

It's 2007. We have the Internet and now there are so many sub genres that it's not worth the effort to have a "conference" anymore.

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mike a — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:44:02 EDT

I wasn't there, but from everything I've read, CMJ's problem is that it's an aging franchise. Like a fading strip in a destination city (think of Seattle's Broadway or University Way), it's still there, but is now coasting on its past and can only watch helplessly as those in the know go elsewhere. I guess that makes SXSW...Ballard?

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MrStarhead — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:54:52 EDT

Is Jehu a descendant of Drive Like Jehu? 'Cause that would be awesome.

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NoNewYork — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:49:39 EDT

you guys shoulda seen tell my horse at don hills last night. really amazing, and def. not like anything else out there. closest comparison is the birthday party, but you can dance to it, yet not in a post 2002 way. one of the best shows i've seen in ages.

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Baberaham Lincoln — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:37:23 EDT

Did anyone care in the first place?

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Statler_HoaS — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:33:40 EDT

Heckling terrible bands will not actually make you look bad. It will actually make you a better music fan

Because we need more people talking during the music? Are you auditioning for the role of "Hey, Asshole" posterboy?

This is a horrible idea which presupposes everyone shares the same musical taste. Given the polarizing nature of, say, Dan Deacon (whom I love, too), would you prefer too see him booed off the floor by every ninny who doesn't get The Countdown? Wouldn't it have been great had, early in his career, his entire act been shouted out of existence? Why don't we just keep a gong on the floor of every venue?

Just because you're not personally having a good time, you're going to bravely make the show about yourself? You have options. You can weather the performance and earn the right to bitch about it; you can go back to the bar and commiserate with friends; you can leave and -- especially during CMJ -- catch a billion other things.

But what's on the bill is what's on the bill. Unless the name on the ticket says "Jess Harvell," you don't have the option to ruin the show for fans of the music that's scheduled to be played. That's just infantile, and should you ever start barking shit out during my favorite song I'm going to fight fratboy behavior with fratboy behavior and heckle your face with my fist.

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not on the list — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:16:20 EDT

cmj needs a major overhaul. everything this year from the panels to the official shows left a lot to be desired. i ran around for four days to catch as much mediocrity as possible.

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