<![CDATA[ - Idolator Comments]]> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/idolator.com.png <![CDATA[ - Idolator Comments]]> http://idolator.com Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:22:47 EST Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:22:47 EST http://idolator.com/342338/ <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3621775 @chaircrusher: Yes, you are correct. The Electrifyin' Mojo influenced many DJs and artists and obviously not just in Detroit.

I think the issue with Aoki is similar to what many DJs have with Dorkwave in Detroit. They get their pictures taken a lot, they're hipsters and therefore easy targets, they tend to throw together established artists like Gang of Four with obscure European disco, and it's nothing new under the sun. And they get deified by everyone from Carlos D to the New York Times to local and international media outlets.

But is it a bad thing? All it really means is that these DJs know how to sell themselves. Unfortunately, that also means they'll try to sell us the worst crap that PR flacks can dish out to them, just so that flow of crap that occasionally has a nugget of corn in it doesn't get cut off.

rocknrollscience

]]> 33:342338:c3621775 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:22:47 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3617684 Umm... if there's one place there's nothing new under the sun, it's in DJing. I'm too old school to even know enough about Aoki to hate on. But wasn't the Electrifyin Mojo mixing up all sorts of dance, rock, and electro-pop on Detroit radio, like twenty years ago?

Sheesh. Anyone who would play a Tiesto record is lamer than the kids they sucker into listening to them. Kids can't help being ignorant -- DJs should know better.

chaircrusher

]]> 33:342338:c3617684 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 09:05:04 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3616660 Even little ol' Minneapolis! Ha

sovietpanda

]]> 33:342338:c3616660 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:48:04 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3615187 ah true...it does seem more fulfilling to simply comment snarkily on other's work than to actually do any of your own. I'd mail you one of my one meeeelion free Zunes to help you along in your sad existence if I only had an address.

Dodge : My Old Kentucky Blog

]]> 33:342338:c3615187 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:16:51 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3614445 @Dodge : My Old Kentucky Blog: ...it speaks volumes when the idea of a "cry-baby, bitchy, jaded, holier-than-thou, trust fund baby hang-ups hipster bitch commenter" is more appealing then the proprietor of StereogumJr.com.

ps. Say hi to Bill Gates for me next time he flies you out to Seattle.

silvermedal

]]> 33:342338:c3614445 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:23:21 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3612799 Mashups are the new mashups, apparently.

cerulgalactus

]]> 33:342338:c3612799 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:53:21 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3611963 New to "the whole blog world" (Jesus wept) but not yet introduced to the term "criticism."

Murk

]]> 33:342338:c3611963 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:04:44 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3611637 @aluberalles: good point and you're right, I'm not defending Aoki or his scene. Dee liked the cd which all she was trying to express, but definitely got carried away with the hyperbole. I'm sure she's learned a valuable lesson, but I, personally, will cut her a break as she's pretty new to the whole blog world.

Dodge : My Old Kentucky Blog

]]> 33:342338:c3611637 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:42:43 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3611500 @Dodge : My Old Kentucky Blog: I know you were defending you're writer, and not Aoki, but i think "jaded, holier-than-thou, trust fund baby ... hipster bitch" are terms more aptly applied to him and his Last Night's Party/Cobrasnake/Misshapes fanbase than to Idolator commenters...

AL

]]> 33:342338:c3611500 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:32:03 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3610958 "sigh" Look, as it seems we all agree, Aoki didn't pioneer anything new. He just put a lot of photos up to replace what a lot of DJs have been doing for many years now. Once indie bands started putting more steady beats in the music, it made sense to try and get more of the indie kids dancing, hence the switch. Aoki had some good ears for his label, and Dim Mak has put out stuff that I like, but he is only one in a line of "superstar DJs" who really haven't done anything that fresh or exciting, just had their photo taken a bunch of times. I personally apologize for the "kill" comment. I'm too old to be saying stuff like that. Just seeing Aoki, Tiesto, and "indie" together made me cranky.

rogerniner

]]> 33:342338:c3610958 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:56:10 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3610558 Does this cover qualify for the 2008 Worst Cover Art contest?

pinder

]]> 33:342338:c3610558 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:26:59 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3610502 Suddenly, I want to hear Amy Fisher spin.

Tenno

]]> 33:342338:c3610502 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:23:57 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3610469 "Devolved"? Music blogging had no evolved state to devolve from. It has always been the province of mediocre writers (well, all right, often the writers are much worse than mediocre) and their indefatigable deployment of clichés and platitudes (even their shopworn phrases come bedecked in journalistic patter they probably don't even recognize as prefabricated). Thank the webgods Idolator is here to cherry-pick the funnily bad from the infected tree of simple badness, or whatever.

Murk

]]> 33:342338:c3610469 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:22:10 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3610171 heeeeey now! Dee was editor of her university newspaper, a huge music fanatic and is a professional writer in the corporate world...you may not like what she posted, but she's never cut and pasted from a PR release.

what i like most about her though is that she has none of the cry-baby, bitchy, jaded, holier-than-thou, trust fund baby hang-ups that most of Idolator's hipster bitch commenters do.

Dodge : My Old Kentucky Blog

]]> 33:342338:c3610171 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:04:17 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3609881 every time i see the name aoki i think of aoli, which is home-made mayonnaise. i do not eat mayonnaise.

loudersoft

]]> 33:342338:c3609881 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:47:34 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3609306 @sparkletone: I think he does that on all of them.

SAMPLE: "Fans of The Strokes, The Futureheads and The Rakes should take note. Neimo crafts taut, guitar-driven pop with a flirtatious wink and confident swagger, but that doesn't mean they've sacrificed quality for catchy. The lyrics are intelligent and charming, with some sex appeal thrown in for good measure, setting them apart from those three aforementioned bands and many others."

Anyone else here getting the sense that music blogging has almost completeley devolved into trading bro-isms?
I mean, if you just want to regurgitate whatever mediocrity comes down the pipe just street team for whoever is on Victory these days and be done with it. At least you get free stickets with skulls on them that way.

As for Aoki, I just want to be rid of him. If he gets out now, I'll remember him for Envy, Kill Sadie, and the bearable aspects of Bloc Party.


SuperUnison

]]> 33:342338:c3609306 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:13:47 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3608755 Sigh indeed. That picture says it all, doesn't it? DJ Douchie Douche droppin' all the hot new alternative mixes from the cutting edge! Will 2008 become the new 1994?

Covebum

]]> 33:342338:c3608755 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:46:24 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3608021 I could also get really snobby about Mr. Aoki's tracklist, but I'm unused to being annoyed on both the bad-music-blogging and DJ-snob fronts at the same time that I don't quite know how to react.

The best I can come up with is suggesting he change his stage name to Faceless Indie DJ.

sparkletone

]]> 33:342338:c3608021 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:14:23 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3607134 @hypnotyza:

"aoki" sounds wayyyy too much like "keoki", which is a whole other mess of issues that i can't get into emotionally right now."

I thought the exact same thing! It's like one hack passed his lack of taste and skills to another hack!

rogerniner

]]> 33:342338:c3607134 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:41:09 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3607113 Somebody's bored today and has been copying and pasting what the PR people send him instead of writing real posts! Guess how I can tell.

sparkletone

]]> 33:342338:c3607113 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:40:03 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3606833 @GovernmentNames: AGREED! the first name that comes to mind when thinking "no talent DJ hack" is.....TIESTO!!!

"aoki" sounds wayyyy too much like "keoki", which is a whole other mess of issues that i can't get into emotionally right now.

hypnotyza

]]> 33:342338:c3606833 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:30:08 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3606567 *vomit*

Dick Laurent is dead.

]]> 33:342338:c3606567 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:21:13 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3606429 @ihatethekids: He's not even a pioneer in that field, surely there were plenty of no-talent DJ hacks before him.

Al Shipley

]]> 33:342338:c3606429 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:17:08 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3605925 And just who is this musical visionary you ask?

[www.thecobrasnake.com]

Next you're gonna tell me that Pitchfork pioneered indie rock!

The Van Buren Boys

]]> 33:342338:c3605925 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:01:23 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3605338 Wait, when the hell did dishwater dull trance ass Tiesto become the King Of Electro?
When was that coronation? Was Egyptian Lover there? Did Afrika Baambata hand out the crown? Did they play Drexciya as the ceremony march while Tiesto limply skipped down the aisle towards the alter?

rogerniner

]]> 33:342338:c3605338 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:43:19 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3605248 ah yes! It's been a while since we felt the sting of the Idolator wrath! I only wish I could take the credit this time.

Dodge : My Old Kentucky Blog

]]> 33:342338:c3605248 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:40:08 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3605105 (was going to comment, but instead needed to go lie down and not think of ways to kill this blogger and/or Aoki.)

rogerniner

]]> 33:342338:c3605105 Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:35:04 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/342338/#c3605090 the only thing aoki pioneered is being a no-talent DJ hack. he should stick to running a label, when he's not too busy $elling it to the maddens.

right?
right.

thanks

thanks for ruining everything steve

and you too danny masterson, you shouold know better.
wait, acually no - probably not.

you got that 70's curse!

haha

nosebleed

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