<![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive - Idolator Comments]]> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/idolator.com.png <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive - Idolator Comments]]> http://idolator.com Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:02:16 EST Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:02:16 EST http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4228760 @teknohed: But...why can't we just sing the guys' songs? Better than they sing them?

Moimeme

]]> 33:353131:c4228760 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:02:16 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4109653 and i response to righteousmaelstrom, i would like to think that mark e smith, tom waits, and nick cave are representing the malefolk.

NoNewYork

]]> 33:353131:c4109653 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:54:17 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4109631 "When it comes to this year's crop of Grammy Awards newbies, it looks like there may just be some truth to the playground taunt "Girls Rule, Boys Drool."

....aaaaand i want to kill myself.

NoNewYork

]]> 33:353131:c4109631 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:52:56 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4098219 Or the constant trend of shitty music "journalism."

Laurrel

]]> 33:353131:c4098219 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:46:30 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4097225 Perhaps this article has hit upon something we all need to pay more attention to: the alarming increase in drooling among male musicians.

westendgirl

]]> 33:353131:c4097225 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:14:15 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4093732 "Since 1992, women have either dominated or equaled men in the new artist category. The difference was that back in the day there was always a Hootie and the Blowfish or Kid Rock to represent for the guys."

I don't remember ever agreeing to let Hootie and Kid Rock represent me!

righteousmaelstrom

]]> 33:353131:c4093732 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:05:44 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4090896 "Few people blink an eye when a girl plays sports or chooses a career in law."

who are these "few people", and why are they stuck in the 1930s? Shouldn't he have written "nobody blinks an eye..."? But then, that makes the whole sentence and article redundant. Oops!

BakerStreetSaxSolo

]]> 33:353131:c4090896 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:03:20 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4088818 I'm still bitter about how fucking underrated Marnie Stern is. Last time I saw her play, it just felt like a sustained, fever-dream epiphany.

SuperUnison

]]> 33:353131:c4088818 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:30:47 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4087913 Tony Sclafani is an East Coast-based arts and entertainment writer. And a big fat moron.

© 2008 MSNBC Interactive

VanillaXtraDry

]]> 33:353131:c4087913 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:01:51 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4087815 You make me want to go away
You make me want to go away
You make me want to... CROCHET!!

Seriously, wasn't it because of crap like this that most of the musicians associated w/riot grrrl pretty much stopped doing interviews?

mr.mykul

]]> 33:353131:c4087815 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:53:18 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4086644 Has anyone here played Rock Band? Well let me tell you, in my experience all my female friends love it. But they all want to sing. And it doesn't take long to work through the handful of songs with a female vocalist.

Hearing my friend trudge her way through In Bloom and Black Hole Sun is pretty funny, but it has had this concept of "Chick Rock" on my mind. In fact I was even wishing that they'd release a "women in rock" disc so that I'd have more for my buddies to enjoy when they came over.

Now I fee like a close minded sexist...but it feels so right to want more songs by the Breeders, Siouxsie, Elastica, and No Doubt.

teknohed

]]> 33:353131:c4086644 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:07:01 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4085050 @jetsetjunta: Actually, I think this new word "phenonmenon" sums up Amy Winehouse fairly accurately.

SAShepherd

]]> 33:353131:c4085050 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:17:19 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4084949 @mike a: Arrested Development, anybody?

HONEYBFLY

]]> 33:353131:c4084949 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:11:09 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4084586 no you were right to stay away. it gets worse, with gems like the following:

"No discussion of women in music can be complete without mentioning the influence of music videos. Where videos were once mostly focused on the female form, they've now become a female forum - at least in the pop world. In pop, women are no longer relegated to supporting roles in guy's videos; these days they can use whatever type of femininity suits them to communicate their message."

Indeed. I can hardly talk to women without thinking about the video for "Cherry Pie." I couldn't bring myself to read the section entitled "The Winehouse phenonmenon," nor to find out what a "phenonmenon" might be. Way to go MSNBC copy department!

jetsetjunta

]]> 33:353131:c4084586 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:50:59 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4084561 I'm just trying to figure out the creative process that would lead a professional writer to kick off a story with "girls rule, boys drool."

Anyway, is ruling the Best New Artist category really progress? Ask Christopher Cross how it worked out for him.

mike a

]]> 33:353131:c4084561 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:49:51 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4084556 I think it gets worse:
"Where videos were once mostly focused on the female form, they've now become a female forum - at least in the pop world."

Poubelle

]]> 33:353131:c4084556 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:49:24 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4084548 @TheContrarian: Aren't girls just supposed to sew or something?

Lucas Jensen

]]> 33:353131:c4084548 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:48:54 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4084352 I couldn't agree more, this is a great example of lazy journalism at its finest.

With the lone exceptions of John Legend in '06 and Maroon 5 in '05, the Best New Artist category has traditionally gone to solo females or female-fronted bands (i.e. Shelby Lynne, Xtina, Evanescence, Lauryn Hill, Alicia Keys, Paula Cole, Carrie Underwood)

What this could signify is simply that the female demographic makes up a larger percentage of the top-40's/Pop Music audience than males, so naturally labels will push new artists aimed at capturing their attention.

Like, duh!!

HONEYBFLY

]]> 33:353131:c4084352 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:39:44 EST <![CDATA[Someone Figured Out A Way To Make The "Women In Rock" Concept Even More Offensive]]> http://idolator.com/353131/someone-figured-out-a-way-to-make-the-women-in-rock-concept-even-more-offensive#c4083587 "Few people blink an eye when a girl plays sports or chooses a career in law."

Man, I blink myself silly. My eyes also pop out of my head like a starving cartoon man who hallucinates a giant cartoon pork loin. Yowza!

TheContrarian

]]> 33:353131:c4083587 Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:07:05 EST