<![CDATA[ - Idolator Comments]]> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/idolator.com.png <![CDATA[ - Idolator Comments]]> http://idolator.com Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:04:29 EST Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:04:29 EST http://idolator.com/355524/ <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4179980 Somebody call the WAAAAAAAAAH-mbulance!

Jonah Bayer's all "neh-neh-NAYEH-nuh strawman fallacy neh-neh-neh" and I'm all "dood ur dumb" I win! lulz.

And when that doesn't work? DO IT AGAIN.

Congratulations! You win one internet! (Not redeemable for actual journalistic integrity or respect.)

KinetiQ

]]> 33:355524:c4179980 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:04:29 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4178410 @Clevertrousers: Yeah! White people music stinks!

Thesemodernsocks

]]> 33:355524:c4178410 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:23:50 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4177601 @stephenbush, don't you mean Chairs Missing, and Lungs?

Substitute "liberal" for hipster and it's just another wingnut blog.

Dowdydiva

]]> 33:355524:c4177601 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:43:30 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4177591 @Clevertrousers: The best thing about "Rip It Up and Start Again" was that it gave me just enough context to feel snobbish by proxy about a bunch of records that I can't imagine myself listening to and forming an opinion on. (I'm not sure if I'm kidding or not.)

"Pink Flag" I actually got into before that book was even written. Can't say the same for most of "Our Band Could Be Your Life."

SuperUnison

]]> 33:355524:c4177591 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:43:17 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4175380 I thought Scharlping and Wuster were just filler after Ken and Andy's show on FMU?

Clevertrousers

]]> 33:355524:c4175380 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:19:27 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4175349 "I like this list better because "Pink Flag" is genuineley that good. I always bring that one out whenever someone talks about The Ramones or the Sex Pistols." - Yeah, you and everyone else who read Simon Reynolds' book. LOLz This is the reason I lost interest in white people music 20 years ago.

Clevertrousers

]]> 33:355524:c4175349 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:18:09 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4175288 As good as Pink Flag and Songs About Fucking are, I think a *true* music snob would prefer 154 and Atomizer...

stephenbush

]]> 33:355524:c4175288 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:16:04 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4174953

    Toto should totally be on that blogger's list! Steve Luthaker played Gibson guitars back in the 70s, on guitar-driven stuff like "Hold the Line." That was before he figured out that outfits like Ibanez, Valley Arts, and MusicMan would pay him to play their guitars. "Love isn't always oh-on tie-yime!

AcidReign

]]> 33:355524:c4174953 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:05:57 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4174535 Also, if he really wants to send this thing through the roof for the third [inevitable] edition of this column, he should just cite 10 Tzadik albums. I'll start him off: Yagi Michiyo's Shizuku, Electric Masada's At The Mountains Of Madness, and Anthony Coleman's The Abysmal Richness of the Infinite Proximity of the Same.

Mordy

]]> 33:355524:c4174535 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:54:17 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4174303 Where, outside obviously High Fidelity, did people get the idea that music "snobs" can't be enthusiastic about any music? ("Do we like these ones as well? Who knows? Have you ever noticed that hipsters and music snobs will never really, fully commit to liking anything?") If anything, I've noticed that music nerds, myself included, get super enthusiastic about music all the time. That's, actually, what makes us nerdy. Most of my friends enjoy music, but none of them stop in the middle of a conversation to sing along to a jukebox (or get distracted and just start singing without a jukebox). I'm always in LOVE with a brand new album that I JUST HEARD and all my friends HAVE TO HEAR IT NOW OMGOMGOMG CAN'TCATCHMYBREATH.

Mordy

]]> 33:355524:c4174303 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:48:18 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4173461 Anyone else want to hear that Bad Religion album?

How about Loveless? This guy's a bozo.

baxtbm0

]]> 33:355524:c4173461 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:23:30 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4172893 @JudgeFudge: It was the same joke about the same guy, which is what threw me. Whatevs, no grudge. Cultural drainage.

SuperUnison

]]> 33:355524:c4172893 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:04:15 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4172792 @Matt Cibula: My bad -- nothing against the Cleve. So, will you please, please take him back and let him be a hoity-toity yuppie snob over there?

the rich girls are weeping

]]> 33:355524:c4172792 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:01:28 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4172281 @SuperUnison: You are totally right, superunison. I am stealing all your shit - no one but you is making Diablo Cody jokes these days.

You might even say that "I drink all your milkshake".

JudgeFudge

]]> 33:355524:c4172281 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:45:21 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4171970 Hate the asshat, not the Cleve.

Matt Cibula

]]> 33:355524:c4171970 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:35:48 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4171895 Haha, pwned.

Moimeme

]]> 33:355524:c4171895 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:32:55 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4171862 I've seen this asshat on the subway, I think. Or, you know, some other "music journalist" who looks just like him. UGH.

You know what's sad about stuff like this, though? Not that it isn't "obscure enough" -- no his bigotry and classism shines through the "humor."

But hey, now I know who to blame for the high class prose that passes for writing in Alternative Press.

Whatever, guy -- drink your coffee in front of Balthazar and have the temerity to bash No Wave. You're so part of the problem, go back to Cleveland.

the rich girls are weeping

]]> 33:355524:c4171862 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:31:44 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4171532 @JudgeFudge: Quit jackin' my jive! [idolator.com]

SuperUnison

]]> 33:355524:c4171532 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:20:36 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4171226 I like this list better because "Pink Flag" is genuineley that good. I always bring that one out whenever someone talks about The Ramones or the Sex Pistols.

@JudgeFudge: Quit going Carlos Mencia on my shit ([idolator.com]). I made that joke almost two weeks ago about the last list. Are you just getting around to jacking "milkshake" stuff from "There Will Be Blood" as well?

SuperUnison

]]> 33:355524:c4171226 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:10:26 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4171067 Hipsters don't play Kiss on the jukebox, even ironically. When is Toto finally going to get the wink wink respect they so rightly deserve?

Come on.

"somethin' somethin' somethin' AAAAAfricaaa"

jmb112485

]]> 33:355524:c4171067 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:05:14 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4170481 OK, Jess/Maura, which one of you is moonlighting? This is just too easy.

mike a

]]> 33:355524:c4170481 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:47:03 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4170167 Okay, come on, wasn't this all covered by Music Snob's Dictionary (or whatever) in Vanity Fair like six years ago?

Feh Am Legend

]]> 33:355524:c4170167 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:38:10 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4169987 We were on this yesterday, and actually got Jonah to comment on our blog post about his first article.

Burst Labs

I have to admit, I at least feel like he knows how pointless his article is this time.

PopIsNotDead

]]> 33:355524:c4169987 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:32:38 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4169931 @JudgeFudge: honest to blog?

Lax Danja House

]]> 33:355524:c4169931 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:31:00 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4169705 Jonah Bayer, you are that which you despise. And you know it.

heyzeus

]]> 33:355524:c4169705 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:23:51 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4169672 I think this actually might be Juno screenwriter Diablo Cody writing under a pen name. There's just nothing hipper than being too modest to like the hip stuff.

JudgeFudge

]]> 33:355524:c4169672 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:23:00 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4169507 @lax_dangerhouse: Write a stern letter of complaint to the Times in London, old man. It'll do you a world of good.

Ned Raggett

]]> 33:355524:c4169507 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:18:18 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4169469 So the first list wasn't the top ten? I don't know about you chaps, but I simply cannot tolerate hyperbole on my internets.

Lax Danja House

]]> 33:355524:c4169469 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:16:44 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4169266 @Michaelangelo Matos: Sectarian strife.

Ned Raggett

]]> 33:355524:c4169266 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:10:08 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4169171 where does this dude do his record shopping? 45 bucks for on the beach? it's good but it ain't that good.

iantenna

]]> 33:355524:c4169171 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:06:59 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4169010 @brasstax: Oh this album?
Haven't you heard this? Yeah, I've had it for a while now. I thought it was cool at first, but now I can see how derivative it is. But if you haven't even heard it, there's really no point in even discussing it, is there?


Thesemodernsocks

]]> 33:355524:c4169010 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:01:55 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4168855 This guy has staked out a really interesting position. His writing is so frustratingly contemptuous of not just music snobbery, but music, yet it's impossible to call him on anything because that just makes his argument stronger.

I really wish I'd thought to do it FIRST!

brasstax

]]> 33:355524:c4168855 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:57:59 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4168813 He blogs for Gibson?

Yeah. That about sells it all.

Utterly ridiculous.

Charlie Kerfelds Jetsons Tee

]]> 33:355524:c4168813 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:56:47 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4168781 That would actually be John Trubee, wouldn't it?

Dickdogfood

]]> 33:355524:c4168781 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:55:36 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4168729 For those of you unfamiliar with the duo, Scharpling and Wurster are essentially the Jerky Boys for the indie-snob sect.

For those of you unfamiliar with the duo, Scharpling and Wurster are essentially the Jerky Boys for the indie-snob sect.

For those of you unfamiliar with the duo, Scharpling and Wurster are essentially the Jerky Boys for the indie-snob sect.

For those of you unfamiliar with the duo, Scharpling and Wurster are essentially the Jerky Boys for the indie-snob sect.

For those of you unfamiliar with the duo, Scharpling and Wurster are essentially the Jerky Boys for the indie-snob sect.

Michaelangelo Matos

]]> 33:355524:c4168729 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:53:48 EST <![CDATA[]]> http://idolator.com/355524/#c4168657 Maybe I'm a snob, but the idea that anyone would take him seriously blows my mind.

loudersoft

]]> 33:355524:c4168657 Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:52:03 EST