<![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are - Idolator Comments]]> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/idolator.com.png <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are - Idolator Comments]]> http://idolator.com Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:44:15 EDT Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:44:15 EDT http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c8299049 @IamnotStarJones:

Sounds like yr ego is just as big & deluded as Aretha's! She is not the only queen out there ya know. She needs to show the queen of rock (Tina) more respect & stop being so silly & childish.

mandles

]]> 33:355865:c8299049 Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:44:15 EDT <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c8298911 Aretha may be considered the queen of soul to many but she needs to show Tina more respect. Tina has been known as the queen of rock & in many cases the queen of many styles so what was Aretha's problem with Beyonce acknowledging that? It was childish & only highlights her insecurity. Tina sells out more stadiums & arena's than any other female artist (except Madonna) & people travel far & wide, spending tons of money just to see her live. Aretha can have her title queen of soul but she needs to realise she is not the only queen out there & NO ONE called Tina the queen of soul, they called her THE QUEEN which, given how verstatile Tina is with musical styles, I think is very fitting. She is not just the queen of soul...there are kings & queens & then there is Tina Turner standing tall above them all & if u don't believe that then just check the world records for concert attendance for a female artist. In addition, Tina doesn't even have an ego about this & is very humble. You'd never have heard her kicking up if it had been Aretha who Beyonce had hailed THE QUEEN. And that is how a true queen should be - graceful.

mandles

]]> 33:355865:c8298911 Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:39:16 EDT <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4265993 Bonjour
Tina Turner and Aretha Franklin are not in the same category....I have seen both of them on stage and believe me Tina Turner is a QUEEN, greatest performer of all time and Classy...and you understand the words when she sing...Aretha is a screamer and Patti Label and Co.. Aretha pls see a doctor, you are not looking well..
charlie



dastous

]]> 33:355865:c4265993 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:12:10 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4254955 I'm with Aretha Franklin on this on being the Queen of Soul and on saying something about it. Respect must be paid to the Queen.

IamnotStarJones

]]> 33:355865:c4254955 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:36:26 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4228344 Beyonce is so shallow intercourse is prohibited on grounds that serious injury could occur poolside... Seriously, that self-serving list of divas is interesting but it says more about Beyonce's obsessive competitive streak. She is not very bright and a real show pony. What she lacks is an identity or any true genius. Every one of the women she mentioned have that which Beyonce lacks- at this point in her career.
Very talented but I can't get register a real presence yet. She reminds me of a showy athlete/cheerleader but she has yet to jolt a single emotion out of me.
Now for Aretha, I love the Queen but that woman is so fat she looks like she ate the royal family of Tonga. I have a difficult time respecting someone that lays around watching television all day gorging herself on processed food. She had every right to have issue with Beyonce being such a vapid little show boat. But where does she get off disrespecting Tina Turner? SInce when was there only one Queen? That whole show bored the hell out of me. The world has gone to hell in a hand basket and our artists lack the empathy and compassion to so much as sing a single note for the people caught up in all this mess. Makes me want to hollah

Maahes

]]> 33:355865:c4228344 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:28:44 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4200888 @lucasg: Splendidly said! If Aretha's career had ended after "I Never Loved a Man The Way I Love You," she would still be the undisputed Queen of Soul.

DaeSu

]]> 33:355865:c4200888 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:50:53 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4200267 Madison Bumblebees trombone shout choir during Aretha's gospel medley >>>>> anything I've seen from the Grammys so far.

JordanC

]]> 33:355865:c4200267 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:25:44 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4193519 1. The mistake was using the word "Queen" at all. That word is practically trademarked at this point. Any other word, she probably would've gotten away with that intro.

2. However annoying her packaging and Clive are, Alicia Keys will remain fundamentally all right with me (and way, way better than John Mayer) so long as she comes up with at least one better-than-most-of-the-radio track per album. However meh the Diary and As I Am albums are as a whole, I'd say her streak ("Fallin'," "You Don't Know My Name," "No One") is pretty much unblemished at this point.

Chris Molanphy

]]> 33:355865:c4193519 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:42:23 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4192863 quite simply, you DO NOT fuck with aretha franklin. period. she has certainly earned the right to any ego she might have. if she wants to wear a fur coat to a PETA rally, that should be cool with everyone involved. aretha franklin is a national treasure. if she comes in to your house and poops on the rug, you just smile and take it.

lucasg

]]> 33:355865:c4192863 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:20:43 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4192780 @DHMBIB: Somehow I still find John Mayer to be the more insufferable of the two. I don't know if it's his massive smug emissions or his "I'm-the-sensitive-pop-acoustic-guy-wait-no-I'm-totally-a-legit-musician-I have-a-Trio!!!" career arc. And a thousand dittos on those reheated SRV/Clapton licks. Mayer's like the dude working at the guitar shop who says "Let me show you how this axe handles" and then noodles flashily up and down the pentatonic scale.

PrinceHal

]]> 33:355865:c4192780 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:18:51 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4192537 @DHMBIB: Hopefully this means we've all been able to pick every last scrap of that song from our respective brains and sent it packing...that's right, "Irreplacable", pack all that shit you own in that box to the left, to the left

HONEYBFLY

]]> 33:355865:c4192537 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:11:41 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4190579 @Aleb: @Maura Johnston: I realized yesterday that Alicia Keys=the female John Mayer. With less personality (wait - would that make her the female John Legend instead?).

Think about it: both are reasonably talented musicians, both appeal to teens and boomers, both are seen as part of "classic" lineage (Marvin, Donny, Oleta for Keys, James Taylor and Sting for Mayer), both are utterly boring and unoriginal songwriters (in Mayer's case, throw in loads of second-hand SRV and Clapton guitar licks).

Thierry

]]> 33:355865:c4190579 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:10:43 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4189638 I'm surprised no one has mentioned the name-drop for "Irreplaceable", which leapt off the stage for me on Sunday nite.

Rob Murphy

]]> 33:355865:c4189638 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:41:57 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4189516 Let's be honest, Tina Turner, Beyonce, Whitney, Donna Summer, Janet Jackson... Lump em together and they don't equal one Aretha. (Note: this is not a fat joke). I would know; my ghost played with her often (see her splendid rendition of The Weight).

GhostOfDuane

]]> 33:355865:c4189516 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:38:40 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4189138 @Maura Johnston: I think "Diary" is a pretty good album. I already suspected she had not much substance though, and "As I Am" revealed just that.

She's desperately trying to sound classic, thinking that the whole world is gonna believe she's good just because, you know, she can play an instrument and she dueted with Frank Sinatra, OMG!

Problem is, the world is buying it, and that's really frustrating...

Aleb

]]> 33:355865:c4189138 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:26:00 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4188760 Am I the only one who was horrified that, after listing all those 'influences', B busted out a "jazzed-up" version of the lyrically incompetent "Deja Vu"?!

I can't imagine any of the afore-mentioned ladies of song would have attached themselves, in any way, to that craptastic tune.

HONEYBFLY

]]> 33:355865:c4188760 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:12:29 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4188566 @Aleb: To me it's not as offensive as Clive's constant attempts to elevate Alicia Keys to the pantheon of legends, but maybe that's because I've been weary of her "omg prodigy!!" push since Diary.

Maura Johnston

]]> 33:355865:c4188566 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:06:16 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4188336 @Maura Johnston: I think it was. I totally expected a part about Leona Lewis too.

Maybe it's just me, but doesn't the list of Beyoncé's influences shows a bit of arrogance on her part? Or was it just a way to give people the illusion that she actually has a personality?

Aleb

]]> 33:355865:c4188336 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:57:02 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4188123 @Chris N.: I'm guessing that was a Clive-mandated line.

Maura Johnston

]]> 33:355865:c4188123 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:48:49 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4187935 It was the "beautiful melodies of Whitney" part that threw me. Just sounded odd.

Chris N.

]]> 33:355865:c4187935 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:40:36 EST <![CDATA[Aretha Franklin More Annoyed With Grammy Writers Than We Are]]> http://idolator.com/355865/aretha-franklin-more-annoyed-with-grammy-writers-than-we-are#c4186715 Aretha is an amazing talent - that is clear - but her ego needs a healthy adjustment. The fact that she's getting upset over a stupid monologue shows just how insecure she is. This almost a moot point because Tina and Aretha are appples and oranges anyway. I'm not a Beyonce fan by any means but it seems like she owes more to Tina (in terms of spectacle, NOT vocal talent) than Aretha anyway.

Christian John

]]> 33:355865:c4186715 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:41:13 EST