Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire? - Idolator Comments

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Nunya B — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:00:16 EST

@kisskisskiss: That should say "stop letting Jezebel steal all your moves."

Nunya B

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Nunya B — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:00:00 EST

Editors of Idolator: For the love of God, stop letting Jezebel steal all your mo....

Nunya B

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

katieee — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:58:57 EST

Mr. Potato Head and a Bucket of Cash.

katieee

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Tenno — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:28:36 EST

@MTS: It'd be a dark week of lolcats, hip-hop jabs, hometown bands and Rickrolls my friend; hardly what the masses need.

Tenno

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

ppunchy — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:05:04 EST

@extracrispy: Seriously? Could you stuff a little more hay in your strawmen? Or maybe return the "real v. mersh rap" argument to 2001?

ppunchy

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

MTS — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:16:52 EST

With all the content kvetch on this thread, sounds like Idolator needs to do a "Reader Produced" day, week, etc.

MTS

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Tenno — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:22:21 EST

@rad_matter: Yes, it'd be like an interactive minefield that would never, ever let you down, or hold you back.

Tenno

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Tenno — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:21:14 EST

@extracrispy: Ah but Soulja Boy allows for snark and humor. You can't crack wise on The Roots, most of us like them too much.

Tenno

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

rad_matter — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:39:30 EST

@Tenno: And any variations of Rickrolls crammed within the SXSW coverage.

rad_matter

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

extracrispy — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:31:16 EST

Perhaps I exaggerated about the number of hip-hop posts. But I stand by my point that the hip-hop coverage on Idolator has increased significantly over the last year.

I guess the reason I find the rap posts so glaring is that the vain, over-commercialized, dumbed-down world of today's hip-hop seems so contrary to the sharp, sardonic, independent spirit of blogging, particularly the Gawker blogs. If you're gonna cover hip-hop, at the very least write about The Roots or Talib Kweli instead of fucking Soulja Boy and T-Pain.

extracrispy

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

stuckingoshen — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:53:46 EST

@extracrispy: Yeah, you're right in pointing out Jezebel's favorite love songs post and how many gigundo hits it got. It could've been an idolator post easy.

stuckingoshen

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Feh Am Legend — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:34:21 EST

@mackro: You're not implying the Fleshbot is dumb, right? Sleazy it may be but they seem a pretty sharp bunch over there. Sure, smut's fun but it's pretty hard to take seriously, and they seem to get that.

Erm, not that I ever visit it...

About our humble hosts: I, too, have been reading, on and off, from the git-go, and it's all the American Idol posts that make my eyes glaze over. But, I guess, that's the music industry these days. And I'm old, so what do I know? But, hell, they haven't booted me yet, so I'm pullin' for 'em.

Feh Am Legend

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Tenno — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:32:39 EST

Oh dammit. 'is just butter'.... sigh.

Tenno

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Tenno — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:32:11 EST

I'm secretly guessing that Perez leans more towards musicals and the campiest of camp. Anything else i just butter on the roll for him.

Tenno

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Varina — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:22:01 EST

@extracrispy: I don't notice a lot of hip-hop oriented posts at all. If anything, I wish there were more posts in general on Idolator! Jezebel has a lot of posts and a lot of interesting discussions going on. Is there not enough stuff happening WRT the music world that merits a post?

On topic: not all of Perez's suggestions are horrible but the fact that he might become a nationally-recognized pseudo-tastemaker makes me shudder. He also tends to gush over artists that most respectable music blogs have already covered.

Varina

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Tippy and Bad Girl — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:48:53 EST

I want the lede Perez jpg as a life-sized poster. Make it happen, Idolator.

Tippy and Bad Girl

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Tenno — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:31:48 EST

[www.pineconeattack.com] ^_^

Lol.

But seriously, Perez? =( sad face.

Tenno

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

mackro — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:17:53 EST

(NOTE: talking about blogs who specifically try to zing more popular blogs on their own comments turf, that is)

mackro

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

mackro — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:15:31 EST

Also, lol at cobwebs-and-crickets blogs who take stabs at more popular blogs while trying to promote their own, shocker.

mackro

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

mackro — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:14:00 EST

There's only two roads for blogs these days.

* Be a smart blog that takes risks
* Be a blog that guarantees hits but has to either a) be dumb and sleazy, b) offer free downloadable shit, and/or c) be purely tech/geek oriented. The former two overlap somewhat. In all cases, a popular blog has to suffer inane/spammed-out comments boxes for its eternity.

See the popular Gawker sites, and the patterns are clear.

mackro

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

slowburn — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:46:56 EST

@extracrispy: Every other post is about hip-hop? Have we been reading the same site?

slowburn

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Tenno — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:45:47 EST

Imagine if you will.

[www.collegehumor.com]

Tenno

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Tenno — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:44:49 EST

If I could have one wish, one wish only. It'd be for the Idolator collective to descend like blogging locusts on SXSW in force and wreak ye havoc there.

Rick Astley style.

Tenno

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

extracrispy — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:28:27 EST

@Chris Molanphy: There may not be a downswing in Idolator traffic, but there's no growth either. February '08 looks real similar to February '07.

My personal feeling (and I've been a reader since day one) why Idolator continues to hover near the bottom of the Gawker network is because it seems like every other post nowadays is about hip-hop. Regardless of how one feels about hip-hop, I suspect that the typical Gawker reader is not that interested in rap. And the rest of the Gawker network is Idolator's biggest marketing opportunity.

On Valentine's Day, Jezebel did a simple post about favorite love songs that received 799 comments. Why that wasn't originally posted on Idolator and cross-linked to Jezebel, I'll never know.

extracrispy

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Tenno — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:12:26 EST

@Maura Johnston: I should have clarified myself better, I was thinking of comments vs. views, and even then just my personal observation (flawed, I know). Doesn't change the fact that this is the second site I go to, every day since I first found it.

I had thought the amount of interaction in posts had gone down, which has nothing to do with views.

I know, I know. Foot in mouth.

Tenno

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

JohnDoe — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:42:10 EST

@Charlie Kerfelds Jetsons Tee:just a fan

JohnDoe

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

JohnOO — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:21:50 EST

@cockfightbarmitzvah:
Couldn't have said it better myself!

JohnOO

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

loudersoft — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:16:15 EST

@kisskisskiss: This is the methodology used to justify the U.S.'s relentless purchase of goods manufactured in China. Look what it's done for us.

loudersoft

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Charlie Kerfelds Jetsons Tee — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:13:47 EST

@Charlie Kerfelds Jetsons Tee: Sorry. Dough.

Charlie Kerfelds Jetsons Tee

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Charlie Kerfelds Jetsons Tee — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:11:53 EST

@JohnDoe: THE John Doe?!

Charlie Kerfelds Jetsons Tee

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Maura Johnston — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:58:11 EST

@kisskisskiss: i love that analogy!

Maura Johnston

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Nunya B — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:57:38 EST

@loudersoft: yeah i can't say i disagree there. for someone whose tastes are so clearly derivative of first-line for-real music bloggers like mr popjustice and arjan of arjanwrites, he gets a lot of undeserved attention. especially in the UK where publicists use his mentions to create the illusion of international presence for their hometown artists (leona lewis comes to mind here). i'd much rather see a popjustice record label than a perez hilton record label, not just because one of the two websites does not send me into agonies of hatred, but because the popjustice record label would be unfiltered, at least. perez's taste in music is kind of the blogger equivalent of forever 21, really, and why buy forever 21 if the high-end brand you're knocking off is free?

...or something.

Nunya B

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Jess Harvell — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:56:40 EST

well i dunno if i'd go that far.

j/k.

Jess Harvell

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Chris Molanphy — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:51:57 EST

@Tenno: Whatever the motivations for Idolator dropping MP3s last year (and sure, we all miss them), the so-called "downswing" of which you speak is basically illusory. Pageviews 'round these parts have generally gone up.

I mean, every day here, we chronicle the ways in which this entire industry is fucked, which is the simplest explanation for Idolator's low ranking in the Gawker universe. But within that fucked music universe, I'd say Idolator commands an outsize and -- forgive my flattery here to my friends in the peanut gallery -- smarter-than-average readership.

Chris Molanphy

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

loudersoft — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:46:09 EST

@kisskisskiss: He doesn't have horrible taste in music, but his presence at anything remotely interesting is instantly polarizing. I've had enough Courtney Love moments for one lifetime, I don't need Perez moments to go with them. That being said, Perez has never been anything but nice to me. I just don't understand people focusing these untold sums of money on him.

loudersoft

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

the rich girls are weeping — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:44:59 EST

@Maura Johnston: Thx for the link -- I totally missed this. WORST METHODOLOGY EVER. How hard could it have been to get the Soundscan data?

Though, LOLZ: Mainstream reviews (Rolling Stone, Entertainment Weekly, et al) were negatively related to future sales

the rich girls are weeping

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Maura Johnston — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:41:24 EST

psst, tenno. you may want to look at the numbers before you start pontificating on overall traffic trends.

[www.sitemeter.com]

Maura Johnston

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

The Notorious T — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:40:35 EST

Aside from the nauseam I'm experiencing at the thought of that clown (seriously...is that supposed to be some Ziggy Stardust-meets-late-period-Elvis look? WTF???) inflicting his musical taste on an unsuspecting, undeserving world, it makes me even more sick to think of the effect this could have on the other already shameless self-promoting attention whore bloggers that will see this and quintuple their efforts in an attempt to piggyback on a new wave of "record company freak" hirings a la Danny Fields in the late 60s. Gah.

The Notorious T

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

JohnDoe — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:36:20 EST

@Charlie Kerfelds Jetsons Tee: Wait, wait. Are you telling me there is money in porn? Is someone looking into this?

JohnDoe

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Tenno — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:30:26 EST

Yeah Idolator has kind of experienced a downswing. I think it may have been when they decided to stop posting their favorite remembrances and lost records and favorites..... though I had assumed that descision was made by the higher ups or to stay out of legal entanglements.

Which sucks, because I bought almost 20 records based on their .mp3 lists alone, just puttering about hearing stuff I never would have if it wasn't for this site.

So thank you Idolator, your technically helping the industry ^_^, I bought from stores or the artists.

Tenno

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Nunya B — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:30:06 EST

@cockfightbarmitzvah, @loudersoft: the worst part is, he doesn't have terrible taste in some areas of music. he likes robyn and róisín murphy and girls aloud (who i suppose could be called terrible by some, but not me, not this blog, not most big blogs, really). he's totally repugnant, and when he posted about one of my favorite bands of the last year i actually wanted to cry and die a little, but at the same time his tastes are not horrible because he cribs from popjustice with no shame at all.

Nunya B

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

loudersoft — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:05:15 EST

TASTEMAKER!

That picture looks like Cyndi Lauper threw up on Melissa Etheridge. I'm not really trying to make a fat joke here, bu the only tastemaking Perez Hilton is going to do is adding flavor sprinkles to a box of donuts.

Goodbye horrible music industry. Die, Die, Die.

loudersoft

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Maura Johnston — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:49:55 EST

@the rich girls are weeping: this was the same study that seemed surprised that most albums came out on tuesdays, so i would say the likelihood of it being *that* savvy is slim. coolfer had a more thorough writeup of it here:

[www.coolfer.com]

Maura Johnston

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

cockfightbarmitzvah — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:11:53 EST

So this tasteless delusional moron is gonna be foisting horrible music upon the public instead of a tasteless delusional moron who works as a record executive at Warner? Oh, well.

cockfightbarmitzvah

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

the rich girls are weeping — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:09:44 EST

Everyone knows that people don't actually read music blogs, they just come for the free music. :P

Relatedly, Warner's "chief digital strategist" bailed yesterday; maybe Perez sat on him.

That being said did anyone else find this statistic kind of fishy:

In a study conducted by researchers at the Stern School of Business at New York University, an examination of 108 albums that hit record shops in early 2007 determined that those that had been the subjects of 40 blog posts before their release date had sales of triple the average. But blogs, which sometimes post songs without permission, along with commentary, pose a tricky problem for music labels trying to maintain control in an increasingly fast-paced digital culture.

I mean, duh. Please tell me that in the methodology of this study, someone realized that there's more likely to be 40+ blog posts about releases from established artists that have already built a substantial brand presence?

the rich girls are weeping

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

extracrispy — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:04:58 EST

Perez Hilton sits in a coffee shop all day reading emails. Where the fuck is he going to discover new artists?

I always assumed the record labels paid him to mention bands on his site.

extracrispy

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Michaelangelo Matos — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:03:56 EST

PORN FANS IN NOT WISHING TO BROADCAST THEIR INTERESTS SHOCK

Michaelangelo Matos

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Michaelangelo Matos — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:03:29 EST

@Charlie Kerfelds Jetsons Tee: o rly?

Michaelangelo Matos

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Charlie Kerfelds Jetsons Tee — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:52:23 EST

@Weezy F Baby: This is off-topic for sure, but Fleshbot's readers/commenters ratio is really something to behold.

I can't/can/can't believe that it has so many readers.

Charlie Kerfelds Jetsons Tee

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Michaelangelo Matos — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:50:20 EST

so is this going to be Stolen Transmission 2.0?

Michaelangelo Matos

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Audif Jackson Winters III — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:45:01 EST

Any shred of sympathy I had for the record industry is now gone. It's over, dudes. Go fuck yourselves.

Audif Jackson Winters III

Perez Hilton's Imprint With Warner: Slightly Less Wasteful Than Setting A Pile Of Cash On Fire?

Weezy F Baby — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:43:46 EST

man, in that link about perez hilton's pageviews going down, i also see that idolator is the least read of all the gawker sites. sucks.

Weezy F Baby