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Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

MrStarhead — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:22:44 EDT

You missed the craziest thing about that Ben Weasel solo album: it was produced and financed by one of the All-American Rejects (who put it out on his own boutique label).

MrStarhead

Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

noliebro — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:13:57 EDT

@arsetothat: Understood, I was just trying to show that pop-punk has seemed to turn from the meaning of "poppy" sounding punk music to what is now "popular" punk music..not a lot of bands around like the queers anymore, at least not with the following of the queers

noliebro

Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

arsetothat — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:05:11 EDT

@noliebro: the pop in pop punk actually more refers to the traditional sense of "pop" music, as opposed to "popular" culture. of course, these terms evolve, but i think jess is referring to the days when pop-punk meant poppy punk music, like the queers, etc.

arsetothat

Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

noliebro — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:31:14 EDT

I think that for it truly to be POP-punk it has to be fairly mainstream in pop culture, such as NOFX and Bad Religion, Rancid were...the bands currently I can think of that are loosly attatched to pop/punk are names like Sum 41 and Paramore which are a huge change from bands like Rancid

noliebro

Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

SneakingThroughTheAlleyWithLalley — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:06:01 EDT

@Captain Wrong: Hey, let them keep trying to be Layne Staley. I dont mind listening. Maybe somethin quasi-decent will emerge.

SneakingThroughTheAlleyWithLalley

Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

manyjars — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:03:09 EDT

The Marked Men are (to my ears) the very definition of "a three-album collision involving Rocket To Russia, Singles Going Steady, and The Incredible Shrinking Dickies." Two albums on Dirtnap, one on Swami, all three are fantastic.

manyjars

Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

Big Gray. — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:08:11 EDT

Might I be a little self-serving and throw Lemuria into all this? Great band.

Big Gray.

Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

Captain Wrong — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:51:47 EDT

@SneakingThroughTheAlleyWithLalley: *snicker*

I'd have an easier time with pop-punk if a large portion of the local bands here weren't still feeding themselves at it's rancid trough. (That is, those who haven't gone into ska-core or Alice In Chains-esque alterna-rock.)

Captain Wrong

Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

Lapinot — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:44:03 EDT

Do Plastiscines and Les Shades count as pop-punk? Have a listen and decide.

Lapinot

Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

themeparkexperience — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:32:33 EDT

I still think highly of pop-punk, even though I don't listen to it everyday. There was a time about ten years ago when I listened to it all the time. And it wasn't just Screeching Weasel, Rancid, NOFX and Bad Religion. I'm talking Welt, Automatic 7, Blount and the Parasites.

For me, hearing the songs on this comp reminds me of what I still like about this stuff: genuinely melodic music with harmonies to boot. These bands aren't trying to be cute or funny. Better yet, there's very little or no irony. It's fun and sincere.

However, from what I've encountered, people who've never really liked punk beyond the pioneering bands roll their eyes at this stuff. Maybe it's the fast beats. Maybe it's the thought that this is only for "kids." Well, in my mind, good tunes are good tunes at any speed . . . and can be enjoyed at any age.

themeparkexperience

Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

SuperUnison — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:00:41 EDT

I think this article came at the right time for me. I was listening to Brand New and Saves the Day all afternoon on Monday and, even though some of it sounds like cheeze, I still fucking love that stuff. Say what you will about it, but it still comes from a way more real place than fucking "Oxford Comma."

@Charles A. Hohman: I second being psyched about The Ergs.

SuperUnison

Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

Charles A. Hohman — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:16:55 EDT

What a fantastic essay about an underexposed movement. Superb points throughout. I'm definitely gonna check out some of these bands after I leave the office today. The Ergs sound particularly promising.

Charles A. Hohman

Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

futurehorse — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:15:42 EDT

@heyzeus: Yeah, basically everything from Dirtnap/Green Noise is about as poppy and as punky as it comes, and it's all great.

The Ergs are ridiculously good. And I definitely think the Estranged are about to blow up, very Mission of Burma-esque, and VERY Northwest. In terms of pop-punk though, they're no Samiam, but really, who is?

futurehorse

Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

heyzeus — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:30:46 EDT

The Exploding Hearts were a pretty damned good band and example of pop punk not being dead. Until, well, they died.

heyzeus

Pop-Punk: Dead Or Not? (Depends On Your Definition)

SneakingThroughTheAlleyWithLalley — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:08:25 EDT

What is, "I hope so." I'll take more obvious answers to unimportant questions for 600 Alex.

SneakingThroughTheAlleyWithLalley