You Know Who Doesn't Suck That Much? The Doors. - Idolator Comments

You Know Who Doesn't Suck That Much? The Doors.

Maura Johnston — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:55:35 EDT

man i love neil hannon. so much.

Maura Johnston

You Know Who Doesn't Suck That Much? The Doors.

Clevertrousers — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:34:26 EDT

@Mike P.: Neil Hannon is God:

and the original:

Clevertrousers

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Clevertrousers — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:26:58 EDT

Well done Anthony - there's hope for you whelps yet.

One more thing - Morrision's goofball "Bozo Dionysus" shtick, provided the template for Patti Smith's goofball "Bozo Dionysus" shtick, which is also fucking hillarious in retrospect...

Clevertrousers

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Maura Johnston — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:04:02 EDT

@TheContrarian: well, i'd imagine that for most sites the american idol coverage gets the pageviews that subsidize the more, shall we say, "boutique" items. (they are to idolator what gratutious galleries-posing-as-stories are to time.com and other online outlets.)

plus in this era of niched-out everything, it's kind of fun to get this glimpse into way-mainstream-american culture. it's like visiting the carousel of progress at disneyworld!

Maura Johnston

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FionaScrapple — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:03:45 EDT

The Doors are easily one of the 10 best American rock bands ever.

FionaScrapple

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StuntKockSteeev — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:55:10 EDT

While I could never get into "Soft Parade", the Doors do have their moments. And to second Anthony on their hilarity, you really can't beat Morrison's live banter on some of those authorized concert releases. There's no way he DIDN'T know how funny some of that shit is.

StuntKockSteeev

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TheContrarian — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:37:01 EDT

@Nicolars: Man, everyone dogs my spelling. And I'm an editor! I am ashamed.

TheContrarian

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Lax Danja House — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:29:03 EDT

We're not forced to hear that nothing will ever beat the '60s anymore

Maybe it's because I'm not American or I don't religiously read Rolling Stone in some misguided attempt to prove I dislike it more than anybody else, but I've never really suffered this misfortune.

Also I like the Doors but not too much. A lot of gold mixed in with the boring trippy shit.

Lax Danja House

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deusner — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:39:25 EDT

I like the Doors a little bit more since I heard "Five to One."

deusner

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Nicolars — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:10:46 EDT

The poptimists haven't won if people aren't even spelling their name right yet.

Nicolars

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Dan Gibson — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:07:10 EDT

@SteveHy: I really don't get where the "Everything Sucks" idea comes from. I follow the posts on days when I'm not posting and I've never got that impression at all. Sure, there's plenty of bad news in the music biz, but I think there's plenty of enthusiastic posts mixed in as well.

Dan Gibson

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TheContrarian — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:52:39 EDT

Or am I mistaking the implied definition?

TheContrarian

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TheContrarian — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:51:59 EDT

It seems clear to me that the tide is with the poptamists. For what other reason are we subjected to blanket "American Idol" coverage from papers of record to indie-championing blogs?

TheContrarian

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Ned Raggett — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:32:01 EDT

@SteveHy: The poptamists won the rockcrit wars

You might be surprised there. (I agree that substituting one uber-alles ideology for another is pointless when taking to a cartoonish degree -- and I've seen it happen -- but you are stretching big time.)

Ned Raggett

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Captain Wrong — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:24:20 EDT

RE: organ based bands:

? and the Mysterians > the Doors

Yeah and Love is some overrated shit too. I got a 7" with 7 and 7 is and that's literally all the Love any sane person needs.

Captain Wrong

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Nicolars — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:22:42 EDT

@drjimmy11: This might be news, but not everybody loves Radiohead either.

Nicolars

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friendslikeJimRome — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:17:21 EDT

Is that the same Dan Gibson who works for Radio Disney?

friendslikeJimRome

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SteveHy — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:15:58 EDT

So, a few readers rebel against the recent wave of Everything-sucksism on Idolator, and all of a sudden there's a "classic rock hegemony" on the Web. Oh, really? Guys, it's time to lower your weapons and remove those humongous Oedipal chips on your shoulders. The poptamists won the rockcrit wars, okay, so can we please stop going for the lazy "so-and-so classic rock or indie rock band sucks!" punchline, like, every single time? Baby boomers drool and we rule! Let's move on.

(I know you acknowledge as much in the above post, but honestly, there's an anti-rockist thread running through a lot of your coverage. It's getting to be a bit wearying.)

P.S. All that said, I think you're 100 percent right about The Doors, Miccio.

SteveHy

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disinterested 3rd party — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:14:59 EDT

@TheContrarian: To me Zeppelin is a great example of this. They were a great band, but that loved is tempered and yet enhanced by their laughable pretentiousness. Plant is more likable than Morrison but he was no less obsessed with goofy mythology and mythmaking.

disinterested 3rd party

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drjimmy11 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:11:18 EDT

After thinking about it for a few days, the stupidest part of "indie" people ragging on Waters is this:

"OK Computer" and everything Radiohead have done since then sound like nothing so much as rejected tracks from any Floyd session in the 70s.

drjimmy11

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TheContrarian — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:04:22 EDT

Oh, I forgot: "The Doors had no bass. Just like the Gypsies had no homes. Don't let that scare you, let that FREE you. 'Cause when you're free-flyin' with The Doors, man, you don't need no safety net!"

There. Now I feel better. And so does Bruce McCulloch.

TheContrarian

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NeverEnough — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:55:59 EDT

@exposition: Yes! 'Crystal Shit'!

NeverEnough

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TheContrarian — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:37:09 EDT

"Pop quiz: who's playing bass? Nobody. The Doors had now bass. Just like the Gypsies have no homes. 'Cause when you're free flyin' with The Doors, man, you don't need no safety net!"

Thanks, Anthony. Yes, they ARE funny, And I think even drunk, narcissistic Jimbo knew that. I mean, the dude sang "the human race is dyin' out," over the most upbeat supper jazz in the world. if that's not deviant humor, I dunno what is.

When Lennon makes a pun, the world rejoices. When Jimbo cracks wise, people call him out as a buffon. Just sayin'.

TheContrarian

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Anthony Miccio — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:32:40 EDT

@pjohn: I might be able to defend post-Barrett Pink Floyd if I ever found myself getting through an entire song on the radio.

Anthony Miccio

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exposition — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:28:05 EDT

"Pretty good Jim Morrison impersonation there. I hope those guys have a good sense of humor and don't take us into court."

exposition

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pjohn — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:05:34 EDT

defending the doors after ragging on pink floyd?! c'mon now.

pjohn

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Ned Raggett — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:48:30 EDT

@Al Shipley: You know, I am honestly surprised nobody mentioned that sketch until now.

Ned Raggett

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Al Shipley — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:37:01 EDT

I can't be bothered to read the clusterfuck of comments on the other thread and see if it was brought up already, but the Kids In The Hall "Doors fan" sketch justifies the band's existence whether or not you hate them.

Al Shipley

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Chris Molanphy — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:36:23 EDT

@Mike P.: At this juncture, I find the Doors funny, ridiculous, mostly harmless, and a pretty great singles band.

Second.

And nice job, Anthony. I love my man Dan (and half-agree with him) but still don't get where that post yesterday came from.

Chris Molanphy

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Halfwit — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:35:24 EDT

Also... watching that performance video in the original post, all I'm seeing is Will Ferrell.

Halfwit

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Dickdogfood — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:34:04 EDT

If you said Scott Walker instead of Arthur Lee, you totally woulda had me.

Dickdogfood

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Halfwit — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:33:50 EDT

Oh for the love of...

[idolator.com]

Halfwit

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Mike P. — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:31:03 EDT

Excellent post. At this juncture, I find the Doors funny, ridiculous, mostly harmless, and a pretty great singles band. Picking on them is kinda shooting fish in the barrel, and while I realize that sites like Idolator need to shoot fish in the barrel once in a while, or there's no content, posts like this are nice too.

And, hey, check out this great version of "Touch Me" by The Divine Comedy. See, Neil Hannon gets it!

Mike P.

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Ned Raggett — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:24:40 EDT

Arthur Lee? The guy who lived in bottles and pretended they were cans?

This is beautiful.

Ned Raggett

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NeverEnough — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:19:55 EDT

The Doors are worse than end-stage cancer.

NeverEnough