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Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

The Notorious T — Tue, 06 May 2008 09:08:47 EDT

@scottpl: So rather than being too cool to admit they were overly familiar with Cobra Starship, P4K was, in fact, too cool to be overly familiar with Cobra Starship.

Okay.

The Notorious T

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

IsadoraPraeconinus — Tue, 06 May 2008 08:35:54 EDT

Comment on Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off" Howdy. As Clyde noted, we not only mentioned that the boys are part of Cobra Starship in our press release, we mentioned it proudly and liberally. As for being cranky, that describes me perfectly 89% of the time. Cheers! Josh _____________________________ Fanatic Promotion, Inc. 135 W. 29th St. #1101 New York, NY 10001 tele: 212-616-5556 cell: 917-744-1772 IM: FanaticPro www.fanaticpromotion.com www.fanaticpromotion.blogspot.com www.myspace.com/fanaticpromotion www.myspace.com/fanaticnewmedia www.itunes.com/podcast?id=253103575 www.last.fm/user/fanaticpro www.youtube.com/fanaticpromotion Disclaimer: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.

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Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

Big Gray. — Mon, 05 May 2008 19:04:04 EDT

Is this a real controversy? Is this really happening?

Big Gray.

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

NickEddy — Mon, 05 May 2008 15:56:47 EDT

I will go so far as to say I actually thought the song quite pleasant. It's more tuneful than the Panic at the Disco song from the other day by several fathoms [blushing emoticon].

And the "London Bridge" song from whenever is/was good.

Hadn't heard of Cobra Starship until the "keytarist" blip. And, though, he never really had a keytar that I know of, I will say here it's a shame there's been no new real Thomas Dolby records since 1992. While I'm here.

NickEddy

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

Bob Loblaw — Mon, 05 May 2008 14:40:12 EDT

Tempest in a tweepot.

Bob Loblaw

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

ClydeErwinBarretto — Mon, 05 May 2008 14:29:47 EDT

Scott's right, Fanatic wasn't cranky.

ClydeErwinBarretto

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

Anthony Miccio — Mon, 05 May 2008 14:09:28 EDT

@scottpl: we actually just got a cranky e-mail from their pr firm noting that Cobra Starship IS on the press release, so we apologize to Fanatic for assuming it wasn't when Pitchfork added its edit.

Anthony Miccio

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

Chump Change — Mon, 05 May 2008 14:03:34 EDT

Now if only they could get around to admitting that Titus Andoronicus is actually the Desapercidos.

Chump Change

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

scottpl — Mon, 05 May 2008 14:01:39 EDT

Hey guys, criticism is of course fair and all - even if Anthony deliberately misread the original forkcast post to make a point that was more appealing to him than the more logical conclusion/the truth* but your addition below even more willfully skirts and counters what we added to our post:

"The Forkcast post has been edited to note that the band's press release didn't mention they were members of Cobra Starship, and really, how could they know something that wasn't in the press release? We sympathize" is simply not correct. The edit to the Pitchfork post merely points out that looking at every available This Is Ivy League band resource, which the writer/editor did, does not mention their other activities. (I have no idea what the press release says, having thrown it out.) Anthony's conclusion, however, that we looked at the press release and stopped there, is nowhere close to what we said. I assume it's simply the impression he wanted to give.

Pitchfork sincerely apologizes and regrets merely investigating the band's collective online resources rather than going all the way and googling every member of this band individually before posting about it.

* "As if they've been at this for years" should indicate that neither the writer nor his editor knew who these people were. Instead, Anthony concludes/accuses them of knowing and outright lying and covering that up because they were "embarrassed" to be confronted with that awful truth (although Anthony didn't manage to spell "embarrassed" correctly). Oddly enough, if anyone is therefore embarrassed or interested in masking that these dudes are in an emo-pop band, it would seem to be the group itself and its label, though I guess that isn't as interesting as trying to make Pitchfork look foolish or lazy for not caring about Fueled by Ramen.

We've also covered them twice in the past. I believe this was before they were members of Cobra Starship and This Is Ivy League apparently pre-dates Cobra Starship, so they aren't a "spinoff" of that band, as you claim. I'm surprised Anthony's expert googling and concerns for accuracy didn't unearth that.

scottpl

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

ClydeErwinBarretto — Mon, 05 May 2008 13:39:21 EDT

Actually, it was on the press release.

ClydeErwinBarretto

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

Anthony Miccio — Mon, 05 May 2008 13:22:26 EDT

@ClydeErwinBarretto: That wasn't on the press release, so I don't know why you'd expect Pitchfork to know that.

Anthony Miccio

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

ClydeErwinBarretto — Mon, 05 May 2008 13:18:37 EDT

Actually guys... they did a track review before they had the "Forkcast" back in 2006 on their EP CD which came out almost two years prior being tagged on the shoulders to peform in Cobra Starship...

ClydeErwinBarretto

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

Maura Johnston — Mon, 05 May 2008 13:07:23 EDT

@Halfwit: "We thought they were a new band ... but it turns out that they were just guys we'd never cared about before!"

Maura Johnston

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

NoOneCaresAboutYourFuckingBlog — Mon, 05 May 2008 12:55:09 EDT

How quick we all forget that Pitchfork doesn't REPORT on music, it regurgitates press releases! Clearly, the job of any music source is regurgitating into the mouths of music lovers!

NoOneCaresAboutYourFuckingBlog

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

Halfwit — Mon, 05 May 2008 12:46:30 EDT

Got dam. Not only can they not be blamed for not researching the origin of the band, but they're actually COOLER THAN YOU for not knowing it:

Not caring at all about arena-emo bands on Pete Wentz's label, we didn't snap to attention at the names Ryland Blackinton and Alex Suarez.

Damn, Pitchfork... points, at least, for the sheer gall.

Halfwit

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

Nunya B — Mon, 05 May 2008 12:24:06 EDT

@AL: Beat me to it. I was going to use "tetchy" in place of "sassy" though.

Nunya B

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

AL — Mon, 05 May 2008 12:02:55 EDT

ooh a sassy edit has been added to the forkcast piece

Pitchfork Writer Too Embarrassed To Say "Cobra Starship Spin-Off"

Dead Air ummm Dead Air — Mon, 05 May 2008 11:17:16 EDT

I saw their video on New York Noise this weekend, and my first reaction was "These guys are posers." The Cobra Starship connection doesn't help things.

Dead Air ummm Dead Air