41 Odd Details About Warriors Fans Probably Missed – Things Fans Never Figured Out
The Warriors is a 1979 crime film based on Sol Yurick's novel of the same name, which was inspired by the Ancient Greek novel Anabasis. After being framed for killing a major gang leader, a New York City gang must fight and travel their way 30 miles behind enemy lines from the Bronx to their home turf in Coney Island. Initially, the film wasn't well received by either the public or critics although it has grown into a classic today, sparking comic book series, remakes, video games, and more.
There Are Real Gang Members In The Film
At the beginning of the movie, there is an assembly of the various New York gangs in the Bronx's Van Cortlandt Park. There, Cyrus, the leader of New York's most powerful gang, makes a speech about putting aside their differences and uniting as one. This way, the gangs would have more influence over policies and control over the city.
However, he is shot and killed during the process. To make this gathering of so many "gangsters" possible, the filmmakers asked real gangs to step in as extras which gave the scene an all-too-real feeling.
The Film Took A Jab At Disco
In one scene, a group of kids clearly on their way to or departing from a disco end up in the same train car as Swan, Mercy, and a few other Warriors. They fall silent after taking notice of their wounds and the overall condition that they're in. They proceed to get off on the next stop, acting as though they hadn't just witnessed what they saw.
This makes audiences resent the disco kids who were more disgusted than concerned. This can be seen as a jab at disco as director Walter Hill was angered that Paramount Pictures wanted the movie to be like Saturday Night Fever.
Walter Hill Had Some Personal Ideas For The Movie That Were Shut Down
Initially, director Walter Hill had plans for the Warriors gang to be all African Americans. However, his suggestion was denied by the producers who figured that having the gang all black would paint the African American community in a negative and violent light.
Another idea that Hill had was for a subtitle at the beginning of the film to read "Sometime in the future" so that the movie would seem like it takes place in a dystopian future. While this would have been a nice addition, he was once again shut down with Paramount claiming that it sounded too much like Star Wars IV - A New Hope.
Vermin Was Supposed To Die But Managed To Act His Way Out Of It
Initially, Vermin, who was played by Terry Michos, was supposed to be killed by the all-female gang the Lizzies. However, Michos wanted to take a more comical approach to his character so that he would be more memorable and therefore get more screen time.
In the end, his strategy paid off and the scene where he is murdered was written out of the script. His character avoiding death brought down the death toll even lower than what it was originally supposed to be.
Fox Was Supposed To Be With Mercy, Not Swan
In the original script, Fox was supposed to be the one smitten for Mercy, yet the two actors had no chemistry, so the role of Mercy's lover went to Swan. This worked out because Thomas G. Waites, who played Fox, was fired just eight weeks into principal photography for butting heads with Walter Hill.
So they removed his character from the film by having him thrown into an oncoming train by a police officer during a brawl. His name is not found on the credits because he demanded that it be removed.
Fox Was Played By Two Different Actors
After Thomas G. Waites, who played Fox, was fired for his disruptive behavior on set and his unwillingness to cooperate, the filmmakers had to find a new Fox. All they needed was someone they could pass off as the character until they could kill him off.
So, they found a body double for his character who covered his face as much as possible. If you look closely, in the scenes leading up to Fox's death, you never get a clear look at his face, and now you know why.
Sol Yurick Wasn't Very Happy With The Film's Outcome
After reading Yurick's novel, Walter Hill knew that he wanted to make a movie out of it. However, he knew that he wanted to make it somewhat different from the novel. He said, "I felt very strongly that it certainly was not a very realistic book, and I wanted to make it even less [...] I wanted to take it into a fantasy element, but at the same time add some contemporary flash.”
Well, Hill succeeded in his vision although Yurick wasn't as thrilled. His novel was much darker than the film turned out to be and he felt his work had been misrepresented.
The Most Famous Line In The Film Was Improvised
The line when Luther, played by David Patrick Kelley, says "Warriors, come out to play!" while clinking bottles together was totally improvised. Kelley knew that he wanted to say something eerie while at the same time taunting, and that was the end product.
He says that he based that line on what an old neighbor used to chant at him when he was a kid. It provided an extremely tense moment and little did Kelley know that this would become one of the most iconic scenes in the film.
They Raced To Beat The Film The Wanderers
While filming for The Warriors was happening, there was another "rival" gang film in the works called The Wanderers. Both production teams knew that the first one to release their film would have the better chance at being successful, so it was a race to the finish.
In order to ensure that The Warriors beat The Wanderers, in post-production they had three editing teams in three different rooms working around the clock until the film was finished. This turned out to work, as The Warriors debuted in February 1979 and The Wanderers in July of that same year.
Deborah Van Valkenburgh Had To Hide An Injury
In the film, Deborah Van Valkenburgh plays the tough-as-nails Mercy, the attractive girl that Swan becomes attracted to. She then follows the Warriors on their perilous journey home where she proves that she can hold her own just like any of the boys.
You may notice that when she first appears in the movie she's dressed in minimal clothing yet later is later wearing a long-sleeved jacket. This wasn't a continuity issue. Director Walter Hill explained that Valkenburgh had broken her wrist during filming, so they had to come up with a way to hide it.
Walter Hill Discovered Michael Beck On Accident
Michael Beck, who plays Swan, was discovered by Walter Hill on complete accident. While still casting for The Warriors, Hill watched the film Madman which Beck co-starred in with Sigourney Weaver.
Hill was watching the movie because he wanted to watch Weaver's performance as she was being considered for Ridley Scott's Alien. Yet, instead, he was blown away by Beck's work in the film and invited him in for an audition as soon as possible. It didn't take long until Beck was officially cast in The Warriors.
The Warriors Wasn't The Main Gang In The Novel
In the original script, the full name of The Warriors was intended to be the Coney Island Warriors, but it was later shortened for simplicity and effect. In Sol Yurick's novel, the name for the main gang wasn't The Warriors, but instead, The Dominators.
Although many things about the gang were changed in the movie from the book, the main trait that the two groups had in common was that they were both from Coney Island. This was necessary or else the movie would have strayed a little too far from its source material.
Actor Irwin Keyes Arrests The Character He Was Going To Play
Originally, the character Ajax was written to be a muscular and rather threatening character. Actor Irwin Keyes was one of the top considerations for the role, but Walter Hill claimed that Keyes was too old to play the character. Instead, the job went to James Remar, a much smaller and skinnier actor.
However, Keyes wasn't completely tossed aside. He was given a consolation role as the NYC police officer who hits Ajax with his baton during the sting operation in the park. Ironically, Keyes ended up arrested the character he was supposed to play.
The Role Of Cyrus Was Supposed To Go To A Real Gang Leader
The role of Cyrus, the leader who is fatally shot in the beginning, was originally going to be played by a real NYC gang leader who auditioned for and got the part. While he seemed incredibly excited to play the part, days before shooting he disappeared an was never seen or heard from again.
While nobody knows exactly what happened to him, some believe he was murdered for his participation in the film, although this is considered unlikely. The part was then filled by an unknown NYC theater actor named Roger Hill.
Comic Book Style Effect
Something that many probably glossed over or never even knew is how the filmmakers used a cool trick to incorporate animation into the live-action photography. If you noticed that some scenes might have looked a little different, then good eye there.
Parts of the movie are broken up by drawn images. Then they have a seamless transition into pictures of the human actors. Since this came out in the late 1970's that's quite a nice feature to utilize.
The Wonder Wheel Is Real
Since the film is shot almost completely in the dark out in New York, it was almost an impossible feat to pull off. Especially since they shot it in the summer when the nights didn't last too long.
The cast and crew had the privilege of roaming the city with a lot of freedom. The city was dealing with a fiscal crisis at the time so that made it a little more challenging as well. The Warriors showcases real props, however.
Walter Hill Keeps Up His Rep
Walter Hill has a long list of films with the same vibe as The Warriors. That's the tough-guy, hard-boiled style. He earned this rep early on with the film 48 Hours which stars Eddie Murphy and Nick Nolte.
Some of his other famous films include The Long Riders, and The Driver, which Ryan Gosling's Drive took inspiration from. Still, The Warriors is still one of his more exceptional pieces of work to date and deserves all the credit.
Love For Kiss
The Furies have essentially become pop-culture icons since the release of The Warriors. A lot of the gangs had their own distinct costumes and appeals, but the Furies had a special type of inspiration. Do you know what that is?
Director Walter Hill wanted the face paint and that specific attire. He wanted to fuse together his love for baseball and the make-up of his favorite rock stars, KISS. That's quite the combination that ended up working just fine.
De Niro Was Set To Play...
There are almost virtually no big stars in this film. It's also made up of many people making their debut in the world of feature films. However, many would be surprised to learn that many big names were once attached to this movie.
One of this big stars was Robert De Niro. He was going to playing the role of "Cowboy." There are conflicting stories as to why this never came to fruition, but one that sticks is that he passed on the role.
Tony Scott Almost Did A Remake
There hasn't been as much excitement placed around The Warriors in a long time. The last time was when word got out that Tony Scott was going to do a remake of the popular film. You know, the director behind Top Gun, True Romance and Deja Vu.
He planned on moving the film from New York to the west coast of Los Angeles where gang culture is very prominent. Unfortunately, the film would never come to fruition as Scott passed away.
A Bat To The Head
This is why it pays to have stunt doubles and people who know what they're doing with props while filming. In one scene, Michael Beck swung the bat at Deborah's face, which was the scene where he throws it at the cop.
She had to be rushed to the hospital at three in the morning because they were filming at night which made things more difficult. Deborah needed stitches and still has a scar on the spot.
Keep It Down!
Have you ever had those noisy neighbors that annoy you to death? You can bang on their walls, but they don't care, the noise keeps coming. No matter what you do, they just don't know how to be quiet.
Well, the same can be applied to crew members who are filming near your home. Especially with a film like The Warriors, you can imagine how noisy it got. That's why the crew got urinated on from a tower block because of the commotion they caused at night.
Life Threats
Well, this isn't good news. When you're dealing with real gangs, its best be extremely careful. Members of the crew reportedly received death threats from other gangs who didn't make the cast. That's got to be scary.
Also, thousands of dollars of equipment got ruined when one gang decided to run through the set during a lunch break. We wonder if insurance covered that or not and how the crew members dealt with the death threats on their lives.
The Original Poster Said...
Words on the original poster read, "These are the armies of the night. They are 100,000 strong. They outnumber the cops five to one. They could run New York City." You can imagine what implications that led to.
Many became upset at this and tried to have the movie banned. We guess some people don't like knowing the truth. Because those words were nothing but the truth. They might have been a little abrasive but, there was no lie.
A Presidential Call
As you may know, presidents are very busy people. They might be in another country trying to pass deals or in the states trying to get laws across. That means if one stops what they're doing to give you a call, then it must be really important to them.
Ronald Reagan gave Michael Beck a call to tell him how much he liked the movie. This came after he saw the film at Camp David.
Relocation
We talked about the noise level of the crew members earlier, but noise can come from others as well. While filming, there were crowds that would come to watch the legendary movie in action.
Thanks to these crowds and the noise level they brought, filming location had to change on occasion. The crowds brought too much chatter along with them! Who can blame them? They were in the middle of seeing one of the most memorable movies to ever come out.
Too Bright During Filming
Filming in the dark means nothing if lights come on out of nowhere. What's the point of dark scenes if street lights that were supposed to be off continue to come on? Well, that's what happened when the crew lighting caused the light-sensitive street lights to flicker on during filming.
This caused the film to go and cover over the light sensors of the street lights during filming. Had they not, the scenes below the subway would have been lit differently.
The Homicides Didn't Approve
Like we said earlier, its best that you don't cross real gangs or make them upset when you're trying to incorporate them into your art. Since The Homicides were a real gang of Coney Island, they had a request.
They didn't want fictional gangs wearing colors on their turf. That prompted the wardrobe crew to make sure nobody wandered off location wearing The Warriors colors. The fence that surrounded the gang during the cemetery scene kept them safe.
